So, I can get the older version of UAW at the site listed in your last post above? Cool. Forgive my tech-dummy question, but, the links to Star-Downloader, how would I actually go about using it? Also, will I find the older version of UAW under the same name, or was it differently named in its first version? Will the official patch Chris(t) has for UAW work with the older version? Thanks tons and tons for the pointers for a non-computer usin' gal like me. As my father said, watching me try to work the computer is like watching a monkey trying to f*** a football. (Yes, it's an exact quote. Good ol' dad, soul of wit and sophistication.)