Never included my SFB days. Started playing that way back in early 1980's while my best friend was in university. He picked it up back then, while it was only SFB. Shortly after SFB 2 Expansion came out, which he snagged, as well as #3. WE played with those for what seemed like ages, but being in a community where a huge town is 10,000 peops, and nearest big center is hours away, we never had anyone else(other than a few we taught) to play against. AS far as age is concerned, I am not the oldest, but am near the top in that category.