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Vote for your faction team-ups.

F,G,H,M vs K,R,L,I (traditional)
F,R,M,H vs K,G,L,I
F,L,M,G vs K,R,H,I
F,K,I vs Rest
F,K vs Rest

Topic: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote  (Read 4606 times)

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Stupid polls... u cant edit them or delete them.

Choice #3 should read: F,L,M,G vs K,R,H,I (Bonk already edited it. The poll is correct)
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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2005, 05:50:34 am »
Stupid polls... u cant edit them or delete them.

Choice #3 should read: F,L,M,G vs K,R,H,I

Edited!  ;D

Vote early, vote often!  ;)  (j/k - I left the max votes per user at one, show results after voting, and no time limit)

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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2005, 06:54:21 am »
I don't care about the teams; the alliances are never a reason why I show up or not. 

I'd like to see a non-carrier server(normal Hydrans not included), no pfs or anything of the like.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2005, 11:51:09 am »
F L M H vs K R G I.

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2005, 01:09:38 pm »
F L M H vs K R G I.

ISC Invasion dyna. setup. ;D

I've always thought that plasmas, PPD, dizzies, Drones would be fun against Hellbores, Fusions, ESGs, Dizzies, drones, photons.

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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2005, 10:53:44 pm »
Bump!

I won't do Plasma Vs. Besides, thats ripping of Karnaks server.

Looks like the Federation and Klingons Vs. Rabble is winning! I have a map already and WOW... It looks too cool!

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2005, 08:32:16 am »
Bump!

I won't do Plasma Vs. Besides, thats ripping of Karnaks server.

Looks like the Federation and Klingons Vs. Rabble is winning! I have a map already and WOW... It looks too cool!

Whoa, you mean we might get to fly with LK and his posse?

Awesome, that would be just ... awesome.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2005, 08:46:26 am »
Im sure there would still be seperation between TS and VT, hehe. I hope it ends there.  ::)

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2005, 10:19:20 am »
Hmm.  Well, there must be a way to run both...
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2005, 10:41:29 am »
Hmm.  Well, there must be a way to run both...

LK runs VT and TS together all the time (KHH generally uses TS)...

How about F, K, and R versus the rest...those F-DDL(+) ships are kinda neat, but Feds have those yucky blue and green interfaces, and their crew voices give the ISC a pretty good run for their money in the "most Sally-Nancy-pants-sounding, wimpy crew" category. Plus, it would be nice to have a bit more choice than photons/drones or dizzies/drones. Also, the ISC kinda reminds me of that silly dominion The Mighty Klingon Empire always had to save the weak, pajama-uniform-wearing flatheads from.

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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2005, 12:39:23 pm »
Yeah, I run TS and VT at the same time during every campaign to keep in touch with everyone.
Now, if I could just make sure I push the right "push to talk" key for the right voice com all the time, I'd be OK... ::)
My wife asked one day, "Why do you say everything twice?"
Once for VT and again for TS... ;D
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2005, 12:40:31 pm »
Bump!

I won't do Plasma Vs. Besides, thats ripping of Karnaks server.

Looks like the Federation and Klingons Vs. Rabble is winning! I have a map already and WOW... It looks too cool!

Didn't we do that not that long ago? I'm almost sure we did, anyway...
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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2005, 01:12:53 pm »
F and K versus all would be fun
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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2005, 01:26:46 pm »
I don't care about the teams; the alliances are never a reason why I show up or not. 

I'd like to see a non-carrier server(normal Hydrans not included), no pfs or anything of the like.

Normal Lyrans have PF's just like Normal Hydrans (such as they are) have fighters...

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2005, 10:21:03 am »
Bump!

I won't do Plasma Vs. Besides, thats ripping of Karnaks server.

Looks like the Federation and Klingons Vs. Rabble is winning! I have a map already and WOW... It looks too cool!

Didn't we do that not that long ago? I'm almost sure we did, anyway...

You'll find most of my ideas on contemporary dynas. It just take a couple years for the other admins. "to see the Karnak light".  *snicker*.

But, imitation is always the best form of flattery.

Some examples:

  • AI stripping missions. First successfully done by EEK in April, 2003. AOTK2 was first dyna to roughly duplicate it. Still not quite there yet.
  • Disengagement Rule. First argued for by moi in SG3 using missions scripts. Was finally done as ad-hoc rule in SS2 a few months later.
  • Standardize shipyard costs based on the CA. Set BCH at 4 to 5 times CA cost. First proposed by moi a couple years ago. Finally done in GW dynas.

That's all I can think of right now. And, there's a lot of EEK features missing, blah, blah, etc. So, there's a lot more to do.  I want a fixed SQL server kit before I do anything about it though.

There are also a few ideas built into EEK missions by Dizzy/Corbomite (randomized map terrain), Chuut (Red Alert auto-start), and many others.

Some ideas I did not like, stood my ground on against some pretty nasty, somewhat immature, peer pressure, and, sure enough, these ideas did eventually go the way of the Do-Do:

  • Configurable missions. Too many robustness risks. Not really necessary with the way you can use shiplist.txt to manipulate settings
  • DIP.  You don't vet the Techies. You take what you can get and be glad you did.  A lot of Techies avoided DIP cuz they did not feel it was right that the casual players could have membership voting power on them. Plus, you're sticking in way too many cooks. A total warping of priorities there. ::)
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2005, 10:36:25 am »
You'll find most of my ideas on contemporary dynas. It just take a couple years for the other admins. "to see the Karnak light".  *snicker*.

 :rofl: That's our Karnak!

Just hold that thought on the SQL kit, we're working on it. (You still interested in getting in on the work?)

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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2005, 11:46:36 am »
You'll find most of my ideas on contemporary dynas. It just take a couple years for the other admins. "to see the Karnak light".  *snicker*.

 :rofl: That's our Karnak!

Just hold that thought on the SQL kit, we're working on it. (You still interested in getting in on the work?)

*shudder*

We can talk after AoTK2 is over. ;D

Hey, what happened to your webmap? I always was proud that you first developed it for ISC Inv. dyna SQL dyna.  You should bring it back.

in late 2003, I made a variant of your webmap code for the registration module in Islandwars at www.islandwars.net, hit "Registration" buttion. See, yer famous. ;D

BTW, look what Frey did for me =>  www.eek-scripts.com 

I need to fill it in a lot. Including the first "campaign map slot" where your webmap originally was.  Mb, it could be our first SQL Dyna like I first always intended for ISC Inv. in 2003. ;D
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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2005, 03:01:13 pm »
Bump!

I won't do Plasma Vs. Besides, thats ripping of Karnaks server.

Looks like the Federation and Klingons Vs. Rabble is winning! I have a map already and WOW... It looks too cool!

That's what I voted for BTW. I haven't gotten to fly with Klingons in a long long time. Besides the IDea of the two superpowers vs. the rest of the galaxy, It just seems cool.

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2005, 11:54:13 pm »
Having Klinks and Feds on the same side is pointless. LB5 proved that.

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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2005, 07:06:50 am »
Having Klinks and Feds on the same side is pointless. LB5 proved that.

I have to agree, it would be great to see both Klinks and Feds on the same side, but history has proved so far it can't work.

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2005, 08:30:53 am »
Having Klinks and Feds on the same side is pointless. LB5 proved that.

I have to agree, it would be great to see both Klinks and Feds on the same side, but history has proved so far it can't work.

Yeah, that was even more disgusting than the whole KCW draft thing...

But hey, we're a persistent lot, interested in growth.  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2005, 08:47:31 am »

*shudder*

We can talk after AoTK2 is over. ;D


 8) :thumbsup:

Hey, what happened to your webmap? I always was proud that you first developed it for ISC Inv. dyna SQL dyna.  You should bring it back.


http://www.dynaverse.net/webmap_op_sql/  Development has begun anew.. (Tracey's newly introduced terrian types need to be added it will show some errors till I get that done, a battle reporting interface based on the current automatic "Destroyed ships" page (needs human confirmations), An OoB interface (already in the early stages), and SMF forums integration! Phew, I gotta lot of work to do.

The latest flatfile map I'm quite proud of as well, (not currently connected to AOTK2 , last used on SG4 and the GFZ) - it will need some updating for the new terrain types too - and Dizzy keeps sending me color scheme suggestions..  :thumbsup:   (uses php's unpack function creatively - partial flatfile structure taken from EDDBEDIT source.) Took DieHards suggestion for optional planet and base display too...


in late 2003, I made a variant of your webmap code for the registration module in Islandwars at www.islandwars.net, hit "Registration" buttion. See, yer famous. ;D


 8)

BTW, look what Frey did for me =>  www.eek-scripts.com 


Awesome - Frey is the man! ISC invasion lives!  ;D


I need to fill it in a lot. Including the first "campaign map slot" where your webmap originally was.  Mb, it could be our first SQL Dyna like I first always intended for ISC Inv. in 2003. ;D


Hopefully we'll get the groundwork done on The Forge in the next few months. I'd love to see the ISC Invasion finally run.
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Re: Are you wanting new faction sides or traditional for a new server? Vote
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2005, 04:46:09 pm »
Having Klinks and Feds on the same side is pointless. LB5 proved that.

I have to agree, it would be great to see both Klinks and Feds on the same side, but history has proved so far it can't work.

Yeah, that was even more disgusting than the whole KCW draft thing...

But hey, we're a persistent lot, interested in growth.  ;)

That was before Mirror Mirror where the players mixed it up.   I'm actually a bit more optomistic than I used to be.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2005, 04:51:18 pm »
Ya, me too.

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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2005, 06:58:26 pm »
I was hoping that would be the response.  :thumbsup:  (as it was mentioned earlier...)

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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2005, 06:48:59 am »
Having Klinks and Feds on the same side is pointless. LB5 proved that.

I have to agree, it would be great to see both Klinks and Feds on the same side, but history has proved so far it can't work.

Yeah, that was even more disgusting than the whole KCW draft thing...

But hey, we're a persistent lot, interested in growth.  ;)

That was before Mirror Mirror where the players mixed it up.   I'm actually a bit more optomistic than I used to be.

I had a good time flying with Kreug and my favourite wing, Shadowlord, on the mirror server. It would be good to hook up again.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2005, 08:33:23 am »
a) -- I would like to see and ISC invasion...ISC vs the rest..


b)While I always want to fly with my KHH buddies and never against them I have to say that flying with traditional enemies as you wings really helps this game in the long run. You learn that they are decent guys "who dont drop on purpose" "who dont alt f4 out of mission " etc etc.. I am all for mixing up taditional teams so we can learn more about the guys who, in the past we have only flown against. I think in the long run its vital for the limited community we have left.

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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2005, 08:40:47 am »
How many Players do we have flying ISC? Karnak is the only one that comes to mind, then again I still need more coffee.

Stephen
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2005, 09:00:08 am »
How many Players do we have flying ISC? Karnak is the only one that comes to mind, then again I still need more coffee.

Stephen

For a good dyna, ISC can usually russle up about 4 to 5 steady regulars (ie. primary race is ISC) that are either getting min. 100K lifetime prestige totalled among all Kitty accounts (look for the flipping cat), and/or are recording PvP kills in the AoTK2 Kill thread.

As far as I know (please correct me if wrong), this dyna we have meeting one or both of the above milestones:

  • Darth_DeathFly
  • Riskyllama
  • FA_Frey_XC
  • Karnak

I've also seen some other ISC veteran players like DireWolf make a sporadic appearance.  And, I am one of the ARMs for the Kitty side representing the ISC in our 3 race alliance. Mutilator is ARM representing the Lyrans, Green is for the Mirak, and Chuut is the Kitty Overlord.


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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2005, 09:03:11 am »
That's a good start indeed. I'm just wondering If that would be enough against everyone else. If nothing else, Maybe I can ask the 9th fleet if they would fly ISC for that campaign. I can't make any promises, all I can do is ask. If not maybe another fleet will stand up and give you some more numbers.

Thanks for the info though Bro.

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