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The Tricorder arrives
« on: August 02, 2005, 08:17:33 pm »
NUGGET: NASA's New 'Tricorder'
NUGGET (Neutron/Gamma Ray Geologic Tomography), an instrument containing a neutron generator, a neutron lens and a gamma-ray detector, could be used to investigate important biological indicators of life on distant worlds - just like Star Trek's tricorder.



(Neutron/Gamma Ray Geologic Tomography)
The system provides a three-dimensional scanning instrument that focuses a beam of neutrons into an object. When the nucleus of an atom inside the rock captures the neutrons, it produces a gamma-ray signal for that element, which the gamma-ray detector then analyzes. The location of the elements can also be plotted; nformation can then be turned into an image of the elements within the rock. Scientists could then tell whether a certain type of bacteria had become fossilized inside the rock.

Many of us remember the tricorder from the original Star Trek series of the mid-1960's. The standard Starfleet tricorder was used for determining various characteristics of landing areas (like life form readings). (Doctors and engineers had their own specific types of tricorder.)



(Spock's Tricorder - Detail)
For other news related to sensors and science fiction, see EyeBall: Omni-Directional Smart Eye Sensor and ThereminVision Sensor: Robot Proximity Detection. Read more at NASA develops a NUGGET to search for life in space and at Astrobiology magazine. See also more tricorder images and details.


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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2005, 10:01:17 pm »
Cool! Handheld Neutron Activation Analysis! (NAA) I worked with x-ray and anti-coincidence γ-ray spectroscopy (Slowpoke Reactor neutron activation analyses) about 10 years ago, the lithium drifted germanium detectors were rather bulky as they had to be liquid nitrogen cooled for the desired sesitivity. The anti-coincidence detector also used an array of a dozen NaI scintillation detectors around the Germanium crystal to reduce compton background exploiting the fact that antimatter anniliations produce photons moving directly away from each other at 180°...(if I recall correctly).  Not to mention the size of the mini-reactor and pneumatic delivery system we used to activate samples in a very homogenous and controllable flow of neutrons. We had used it in bulk analysis. (e.g. Selenium in wheat flour) I had read of surface analysis with neutron beams but never imagined a handheld could do the job.

I had always imagined the tricorder as its name implies as using three different modalities of environmental analysis.

I would love to have the budget to develop a handheld mass spectrometer (Agilent has a portable for bomb sniffing - but it leaves a lot to be desired). I envision a magnetic sector instrument that uses carbon microneedles to produce huge magnetic/electric field gradients in a tiny space...

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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2005, 10:12:41 pm »
Bonk, apparently this proposed device causes the emission of electromagnetic radiation from the target, not scattering or diffraction, so it probably will emit as isotropically as the atoms' micro and macroscopic surroundings permit.  No need for specially positioned detector openings.  "Point and shoot"!

But it sounds a bit like XPS or Auger; i.e., you can get compositional information, but structural may be difficult, unless there are cues in the collected data already.

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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 01:02:37 am »
You guys read up on the other tricorder the Terahertz wave scanner?

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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 02:00:27 am »
Cool! Handheld Neutron Activation Analysis! (NAA) I worked with x-ray and anti-coincidence γ-ray spectroscopy (Slowpoke Reactor neutron activation analyses) about 10 years ago, the lithium drifted germanium detectors were rather bulky as they had to be liquid nitrogen cooled for the desired sesitivity. The anti-coincidence detector also used an array of a dozen NaI scintillation detectors around the Germanium crystal to reduce compton background exploiting the fact that antimatter anniliations produce photons moving directly away from each other at 180°...(if I recall correctly).  Not to mention the size of the mini-reactor and pneumatic delivery system we used to activate samples in a very homogenous and controllable flow of neutrons. We had used it in bulk analysis. (e.g. Selenium in wheat flour) I had read of surface analysis with neutron beams but never imagined a handheld could do the job.

I had always imagined the tricorder as its name implies as using three different modalities of environmental analysis.

I would love to have the budget to develop a handheld mass spectrometer (Agilent has a portable for bomb sniffing - but it leaves a lot to be desired). I envision a magnetic sector instrument that uses carbon microneedles to produce huge magnetic/electric field gradients in a tiny space...




did you hear about the solid state terahertz wave generators developed recently? more resolution than either x rays or MRI but no radiation hazard. they will be hand held within the next couple a years. add that to the gamma thingy here and... voila

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 05:21:00 am »
did you hear about the solid state terahertz wave generators developed recently? more resolution than either x rays or MRI but no radiation hazard. they will be hand held within the next couple a years. add that to the gamma thingy here and... voila


Solid state terahertz EM generators? Nope, haven't heard of them. Sounds interesting. Let's see, radio is up to the GHz range so terahertz EM would be between radio and visible light somewhere, near microwave? With enough power there can be a radiation hazard, (a 1 watt visible laser can burn flesh nicely) but of course with less radioactivity produced than a neutron beam.

I'm trying to figure out what wavelength range of EM radiation 1 THz corresponds to here... hmmm... lets see... been a while...

wavelength = c/frequency
wavelength = 3x108(m/s)/1x1012Hz = 0.0003m = 300µm = 300000nm

visible light is ~350-750 nm...

so 300000nm comes in somewhere beteween infra-red and microwave... so this "solid state terahertz wave generator" at ~10-4m would roughly correspond to microwave or IR?

http://www.lbl.gov/images/MicroWorlds/EMSpec.gif
http://www.yorku.ca/eye/spectrum.gif

Or did you mean THz sound waves? (will be attenuated rapidly in solids, even in gas) High resolution ultrasound can provide nm scale resolution but only a few microns deep into tissue, without risking cavitation, and by definition the technique must be non-destructive at that scale... particularly with human subjects. Used for corneal examinations if I recall correctly. (very cool tech btw)

Greater resolution than MRI? MRI resolution depends on the steepness and homogeneity of the magnetic field gradient used. Common MRIs use a 4 Tesla magnet. I have previously estimated that a 14 Tesla magnet could give me resolution on the atomic scale with a gradient over a few centimeters (small sample chamber to look at insects etc). Electronics are actually fast enough for it now, when I originally envisioned "real-time" Ultra-High Resolution Spectroscopic MRI about 10 years ago it was not possible due to electronics and data handling alone, now only magnet strength stands in its way... with the advances in NMR magnets I have seen from Bruker and Varian in the last few years I expect a 15-20 Tesla MRI field should be possible soon... if not already.
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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2005, 11:06:38 am »
Teraherz waves have multiple uses from medical scanning and diagnostics to structural testing of materials and scanning for hidden objects.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/laser-03b.html

Blinded By The Light At 20,000 THz

To produce for the first time ever, intense terahertz radiation, researchers from JLab and two other Department of Energy laboratories -- Brookhaven National Lab and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab -- made use of the fact that the driver linac of JLab's Free-Electron Laser is made up of intense electron bunches that are a few tenths of a millimeter long, i.e. comparable to the wavelength of terahertz radiation.
Oak Ridge - Jan 31, 2003
Experiment generates THz radiation 20,000 times brighter than anyone else; breakthrough lights way for application development. An experiment conducted with Jefferson Lab's Free-Electron Laser has shown how to make a highly useful form of light -- called terahertz radiation -- 20,000 times brighter than ever before. Jefferson Lab is a Department of Energy laboratory located in Newport News, Virginia.
The name "terahertz radiation" derives from the frequency of the radiation -- of the order of one trillion oscillations per second. The corresponding wavelength is of the order of tenths of a millimeter. Terahertz radiation is thus located in the spectrum of electromagnetic radiation between the upper end of the microwave range (mm wavelength) and the far infrared (hundredths of mm).

Terahertz radiation is non-ionizing and shares with microwaves the capability to penetrate a wide variety of non-conducting materials.

Gwyn Williams, JLab's Free-Electron Laser Basic Research Program manager, conceived and led the multi-laboratory team conducting the experiment, which took place during November 2001. The results were published in the Nov. 14, 2002, issue of the international science journal Nature.

Among the prospective benefits, the breakthrough lights the way toward better detection of concealed weapons, hidden explosives and land mines; improved medical imaging and more productive study of cell dynamics and genes; real-time "fingerprinting" of chemical and biological terror materials in envelopes, packages or air; better characterization of semiconductors; and widening the frequency bands available for wireless communication.

To produce for the first time ever, intense terahertz radiation, researchers from JLab and two other Department of Energy laboratories -- Brookhaven National Lab and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab -- made use of the fact that the driver linac of JLab's Free-Electron Laser is made up of intense electron bunches that are a few tenths of a millimeter long, i.e. comparable to the wavelength of terahertz radiation.

Sending any energetic electron beam through a magnetic field makes the beam emit radiation, so-called synchrotron radiation, a process that is greatly enhanced (coherent synchrotron radiation) when the length of the electron bunches is as short or shorter than the radiation wavelength of interest.

Researchers paving way for T-ray applications
For over a decade, scientists worldwide have been pressing the study of light in the terahertz region and looking for better ways to generate and use it. The light is also referred to occasionally as T-rays, T-light or T-lux.

An August 16 Science magazine article, "Revealing the Invisible," reported that "much research is being directed toward the development of T-ray sources and detectors, particularly for applications in medical imaging and security scanning systems." Xi-Cheng Zhang, a T-ray expert at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, predicts that terahertz light will be "the future 'killer application' ... in biomedicine."

Picometrix Tochigi Nikon Corporation and Teraview -- a Cambridge, England, start-up associated with Toshiba -- have begun commercializing low-power terahertz systems. A few hospitals are already testing comparatively dim sources of terahertz light for detecting skin cancer.

Overall, though, terahertz light still constitutes a gap in the science of light and energy. It inhabits a region of the electromagnetic spectrum not that well understood.

Now that a way to generate it at high power has been demonstrated, terahertz light can potentially extend and add widely to the wave-based technologies that have defined the last 150 years: from the telegraph, radio and X-rays to computers, and cell phones.

Up to this point, no other method of generating terahertz waves had yielded more than two-thousandths of a watt in power. But Williams and his colleagues extracted nearly 20 watts -- some 20,000 times more. "Think of a candle and then think of a floodlight," says Williams.

But no matter how bright they are, terahertz light rays can't penetrate metal or water. So they can't be used to inspect cargo containers on arriving ships or to diagnose conditions deep inside the human body."Nevertheless," says Williams, "the growing awareness of terahertz light's usefulness is like what happened a century ago with X-rays -- only terahertz light will have a much wider range of applications. The task now will be to develop those uses."

Bringing 10-year-old idea to fruition
About 10 years ago Williams wrote a paper proposing a method for generating large amounts of terahertz light. In the mid-90s he started following the development of JLab's Free-Electron Laser.

Williams came to Jefferson Lab from Brookhaven National Lab in the spring of 2000; he actively began pursuing his experiment last June, when he drove a van to Brookhaven to bring back a spectrometer on loan from his old laboratory.

Kevin Jordan and George Neil, both JLab staff, soon had it installed and proof-of-principle experiments took place. The final run, with a better spectrometer and detector, took place in early November 2001 and included Larry Carr from Brookhaven, and Michael Martin and Wayne McKinney from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab.

"We didn't create something new," Williams explains. "The terahertz light had always been there inside of the FEL's vacuum-sealed beam pipe. We just figured out how to open the pipe, put in a window to let the light out, and how to measure it.

Williams is looking forward to performing proof-of-principle experiments of the capabilities of THz light with the upgraded FEL and a newly designed section of FEL beam pipe that should allow even more of the light out.

Williams and his collaborators presented their results at the First International Conference on terahertz Radiation in December of 2001, and shortly thereafter he wrote the experiment up and submitted it to Nature. Due to the novel arena, it took some time before the paper was accepted, but it finally was.

While the U.S. Navy funded the FEL's construction to investigate the science and technology of high-power laser beams whose precise wavelength can be selected, the funding to run Williams' and his colleagues' experiment was from the Commonwealth of Virginia.





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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2005, 04:52:48 pm »
Thanks for posting the article. Ah, I did read about this, about 3 years ago in this context:

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Sending any energetic electron beam through a magnetic field makes the beam emit radiation, so-called synchrotron radiation, a process that is greatly enhanced (coherent synchrotron radiation) when the length of the electron bunches is as short or shorter than the radiation wavelength of interest.


By my calculation though,  20,000 THz corresponds to 1.5x10-8m or 15 nm which is a UV laser, nothing new really, though most UV lasers currently available are either 244 or 355 nm so a 15 nm laser would be an advance, but fluorescence interference from exitation at 15 nm will be significant, unless it is the intended emission signal of study... especially at the power levels attainable with a synchrotron source, but a hand-held synchrotron laser? (now that would be significant... and tunable as they suggest would be particularly sweet...)

http://www.lasersurplus.com/lasers.htm
http://www.newport.com/Products/Annoucements/Releases/Release.aspx?id=423

BUT, I just realized that is a misprint in the article title, the text of the article clarifies that they mean 20,000x more powerful than previous THz lasers, not a 20,000 THz laser as the title suggests: "Blinded By The Light At 20,000 THz" - Yes definitely a mistitled article - 20,000 THz is 20 petahertz - not terahertz at all, so a terahertz laser 20,000x more powerful than previously achieved is something to crow about - laser power is a tricky business... a powerful terahertz laser might be very useful, the 20 watt laser quoted is significant, and at those low wavelengths fluorescence certainly will not be an issue, but penetrating power will be... especially with a handheld device...

I see my future as science editor developing before me...  ;D


P.S. I get a kick out of the scientist/tech pictured in the article:
http://www.spacedaily.com/images/laser-20000thz-bg.jpg
 :thumbsup: ;D
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Re: The Tricorder arrives
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2005, 05:21:13 pm »
DE beams of that wave length are the most multiuse type imaginable. I beleive that solid state terahertz generators have been made. i will try to find an article. should not be hard i either linked it here or at hannity. the soldi state one is the one i mean to liken to a tricorder. of course with an array that includes this. the gamma nuetron thing and other sensors would make a true tricorder.

that thing the scientist is holding reminds me of the corona shield assemby in the high voltage compartment of the transmitter of my old Radar equipment in the military.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2005, 05:31:31 pm »
Right, gotcha now, a solid state THz source as opposed to a synchrotron source, that does make sense for a handheld... cool idea!  (one more modality and we have our tricorder!  ;D)

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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2005, 09:50:21 pm »
Boys, I only skimmed both your posts, so if I'm a buck short and a day late, forgive me: a typical X-ray wavelength, Cu Kα, is roughly 1.54 x 10-10 m.  If γ = c/λ, and c =2.9979 x 108 m, then the frequency is 1.95 x 1018 Hz.

And if giga (G) is 109, then tera (T) is 1012, which makes 1015 peta (P) and 1018 exa (E).

So, if it's terahertz, it's far infrared... or microwave (some people consider IR, radio waves, etc. all microwaves).

If so, then this is... not to be mean or negative or anything... a small innovation.  Decades ago, students used to build their own IR lasers as commercial ones were either as yet to be available or if they were, very expensive.  Judging from those homebrewed devices, I'm surprised no one got seriously shocked nor electrocuted.

Isn't this something the DoD was trying to knock missiles down with?  If so, all we have to do is find the next revolution in computer tracking hardware and programming and we can have SFC-style point defense against any and all missiles!

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2005, 10:01:36 pm »
For some reason it is hard to reliably generate that particular subsection of the spectrum. secondly; that portion of the spectrum is very versatile of application. it is used in everything from bomb detection to medical diagnostics to scanniing for chemical composition and seeing through walls. the advent of reliable and relatively powerful solid state sources has led to a revolution in various remote sensing applications. in fact with demand for portable scanners reaching an all time high with the advent of terrorism, companies that use this technology might be a very good stock investment.

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Hey , guys, I got this cool new flashlight I bought at Wal-Mart. What do you think of it?
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 10:36:02 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 10:39:50 pm »
For some reason it is hard to reliably generate that particular subsection of the spectrum. secondly; that portion of the spectrum is very versatile of application. it is used in everything from bomb detection to medical diagnostics to scanniing for chemical composition and seeing through walls. the advent of reliable and relatively powerful solid state sources has led to a revolution in various remote sensing applications. in fact with demand for portable scanners reaching an all time high with the advent of terrorism, companies that use this technology might be a very good stock investment.

Um, really?  I could be behind the times, but it's my feeling that IR lasers are common.  Nitrogen and carbon dioxide lasers are commercial products and fairly high power, as far as lasers go.  You might be thinking of solid state lasers.  Solid-state anything has a problem with real power requirements; the very physics and chemistry of the silicon won't let it handle the kind of power you get from other electrical or electronic systems.  Solid state IR lasers are common, too, but they'd make lousy beam weapons; sorry Captain, they haven't got the power!  Apologies to the late James Doohan.

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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2005, 10:41:57 pm »
Hey , guys, I got this cool new flashlight I bought at Wal-Mart. What do you think of it?

Don't look at it straight into your eye, you know about that made in China quality control.  They might have mislabeled one of Punisher's superweapons as $1.99 key ring plastic flashlights.

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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2005, 10:49:15 pm »
For some reason it is hard to reliably generate that particular subsection of the spectrum. secondly; that portion of the spectrum is very versatile of application. it is used in everything from bomb detection to medical diagnostics to scanniing for chemical composition and seeing through walls. the advent of reliable and relatively powerful solid state sources has led to a revolution in various remote sensing applications. in fact with demand for portable scanners reaching an all time high with the advent of terrorism, companies that use this technology might be a very good stock investment.

Um, really?  I could be behind the times, but it's my feeling that IR lasers are common.  Nitrogen and carbon dioxide lasers are commercial products and fairly high power, as far as lasers go.  You might be thinking of solid state lasers.  Solid-state anything has a problem with real power requirements; the very physics and chemistry of the silicon won't let it handle the kind of power you get from other electrical or electronic systems.  Solid state IR lasers are common, too, but they'd make lousy beam weapons; sorry Captain, they haven't got the power!  Apologies to the late James Doohan.

an unintentional strawman on your part i think. i did not say IR. the frequency if i am not mistaken in the far infrared on up to microwave. And i do not pull such discriptions from my alimentary canal but from articles i have read. That is how every  article i have ever read on this subject has characterized the situation. not one article, not two; all.

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2005, 11:41:43 pm »
Hey, Storm, no offense intended!  I am somewhat nonplussed... even microwave lasers ("masers") are not new.  I am surprised to hear that they are difficult to reliably design or make... though I can see even from a solid state perspective why you may be right, as the energy (not energy density or power) of the transition of any material that could generate microwaves would be small compared to near IR, visible, and higher.  Perhaps the hard part is to find materials that lase that have energy levels or gaps that are in the microwave region.  I think yes, there would be a problem finding a solid that would give this frequency of emission.

And, I do not ever believe you b.s your way through anything.  I have said your passion and fascination is wonderful and a person like that is most likely to examine things thoroughly.  Again, it was just a bit of a startling thing to hear that microwave emission is a problem; I'd rather expect FELs and the x-ray region to be much more troublesome in terms of engineering: shielding, power consumption, heat dissipation, etc., for such short wavelength light.

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2005, 11:47:41 pm »
Hey, Storm, no offense intended!  I am somewhat nonplussed... even microwave lasers ("masers") are not new.  I am surprised to hear that they are difficult to reliably design or make... though I can see even from a solid state perspective why you may be right, as the energy (not energy density or power) of the transition of any material that could generate microwaves would be small compared to near IR, visible, and higher.  Perhaps the hard part is to find materials that lase that have energy levels or gaps that are in the microwave region.  I think yes, there would be a problem finding a solid that would give this frequency of emission.

And, I do not ever believe you b.s your way through anything.  I have said your passion and fascination is wonderful and a person like that is most likely to examine things thoroughly.  Again, it was just a bit of a startling thing to hear that microwave emission is a problem; I'd rather expect FELs and the x-ray region to be much more troublesome in terms of engineering: shielding, power consumption, heat dissipation, etc., for such short wavelength light.


I will see if i can find one of the articles that characterise the spectrum that way. all that include a characterization refer to it that way. but not all articles make a characterization on that issue.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2005, 12:19:04 am »
What characterization are you referring to?