Topic: new player wanting in on AOTK2

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Alright then, but what if it's Romulan vs. Gorn? 

Romulan vs. Gorn was the birthplace of the plasma ballet.  (When the game started, they were the only two plasma powers.)  Both sides want to keep up their speed, and "twirl" enough so that somehow they have a better approach angle than their opponent.

Cloak can save you from the odd torpedo, and I like it a lot now that it has been fixed to near SFB standards.  I have beaten bigger Gorn ships than me by carefully and prudently using the cloak.

But you don't want to rely upon cloak as your main plasma defense.  It slows you down.  Eventually, your enemy will flash you with a T-bomb, hit you with tractors, unload a full plasma alpha strike into you, and you won't be able to fire back.  (Cause you're still "cloaked", even in his tractor beam.)

Then he'll drop the tractor and be gone before you finish uncloaking.

-S'Cipio

[Seanner]

Ahh I see most excellent, tractoring after T-bombing.. a new trick is learned.

[Mr.Bad151]

because he is cloaked and probably moving less than 4.. you have to drop the T-bomb then run into it yourself to flash him.. at which time your tracktor locks on and you give him your best shot.

Since you said it was a new trick for you, thought I better explain it.. first time I heard about it I just dropped the T-bomb under the cloaked rom (who was sitting still at the time) and thought to myself.. "I'm either doing something wrong (which I was) or this is a worthless tactic..."  You of course are probably a lot smarter than I am, and probably didn't need the explanation.. but I'm old and its helps my fading memory to rehash old tactics.

[Braxton_RIP]

If you have a DN or other some other but extremely heavy ship, you can always just go to range 0 and pound on him.  I find that this works nicely with a DN, simply because I don't have to waste a T-Bomb on something as stupid as a cloaker dumb enough to cloak 

[GDA-S'Cipio]

because he is cloaked and probably moving less than 4.. you have to drop the T-bomb then run into it yourself to flash him.. at which time your tracktor locks on and you give him your best shot.

Since you said it was a new trick for you, thought I better explain it.. first time I heard about it I just dropped the T-bomb under the cloaked rom (who was sitting still at the time) and thought to myself.. "I'm either doing something wrong (which I was) or this is a worthless tactic..."  You of course are probably a lot smarter than I am, and probably didn't need the explanation.. but I'm old and its helps my fading memory to rehash old tactics.

MrBad151 is completely correct in stating that you may need something to set off the mine.  Often this something is your #1 shield.  (If you transported the mine out in front of you, make sure the shield is back up before you hit the mine.   The painters back at drydock are most particular about that.)

One final thing you should note, however, is that while most ships can only go speed four without setting off a mine, a cloaked ship can go speed six without setting off a mine.

Keep this in mind when you are deciding whether or not you need to go tap the mine yourself.

-S'Cipio

[Kzinbane]

The cloak is very good at keeping Lyran ships fron hurting you too.  You should always cloak when fighting Lyrans. 

[GDA-S'Cipio]

There's a starcastling king?

I always assumed it was an anarcho-cynicalist commune type thing.

Your fooling yourself, mate.  We're living in a dictatorship.

-S'Cipio

I still don't remember voting for him

You don't vote for a king!  The lady of our group, her e-mails filled with the purest scripts, gave her missions to DH, thus proving that he was the rightful dictator of the dynaverse for AOTKII.

-S'Cipio

[Seanner]

The cloak is very good at keeping Lyran ships fron hurting you too.  You should always cloak when fighting Lyrans.

Ha!  You can't fool me!  I may be new to online play, and may have never played SFB, and may be awful, and so on, BUT I know the rules of the game... ESGs automatically hit cloaked targets, which is perfectly logical seeing as it's an energy field which doesn't need to detect objects to smash into.  Of course, your wink implies you weren't seriously trying to fool me but those shifty Lyrans have done worse.  Oh and if you didn't know, a special mod in AOTKII allows ESGs to block photons.

You of course are probably a lot smarter than I am, and probably didn't need the explanation.. but I'm old and its helps my fading memory to rehash old tactics.

I dunno, I've managed to tractor myself into an asteroid more than once in SFC1's techincals.  It turns out that when the target dies, you immediately accelerate to the requested speed...  I've managed to feedback myself to death resulting in a lovely draw.  It turns out plasmas also have a feedback range...  I've managed to smash directly into a planet with no prompting because it it turns out the graphics do not coincide with the real range...  And finally, my most favorite of all: they put the stupid cloak key RIGHT NEXT to the stupid max defensive tractors key, causing NUMEROUS deaths to inappropriate cloaking vs. a point blank scatter pack.  You'd think I'd just change the keys around.

Speaking of the technicals, one of the cruiser ones for Fed was impossible on Admiral level, you can only kill like 2-3.