Topic: Pirates! (Read 2966 times)

Jack Morris · « **on:** July 23, 2005, 08:29:40 am »

I'm still playing Pirates, Dracho. The game did not go down in price like SH3 or the SW Jump to Lightspeed. It is simply AWESOME! Was it worth 50 smackers? You bet, as NO game is the same. I finally managed a cruise that netted over 100,000 gold pieces. With that portion of my booty I can now take my vessel anywhere with the crew happy and go do special missions and find lost relatives and the secret pirate base.

I wish they had a dyna for this, it is truly a work of art.

I will be taking my new P/C with me to Chihuahua, and Jump to Lightspeed to boot.

Dracho · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2005, 08:54:49 am »

There is talk of an online Pirates! game.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2005, 03:08:34 pm »

One company in the Balkans made a Pirates style online game. But who would trust a company from Romania or Bosnia or wherever in that area? Obviously they did not fare well, as Pirates by Sid Meir is known WORLDWIDE and has no competition in their arena. Kudos to Atari for publishing and distributing the game.

This game would be so doable as an online game it's not even funny. The best thing is, noone could really have an "uber" ship as the upgrades are available to everyone as long as you got some gold to spare. It would be nice to pai up or have more human players battling another enemy task force or hunter killer group or even a escorted convoy. I love the bounty thing too. Spain does NOT like me at all. They also have religious settlements and pirate bases, if you do not mind the whole world going to war with you then you can find a base and attack all nations!

You will get rich, but you will not hold rank or have any land, and no governor's daughter with big bewbies showing.

One thing though, you attack an escorted ship, you fight BOTH of them (escort and merchant or galleon) while you only get your flagship, not important even if you have a fleet, you only get your one ship. And yes, rocks, reefs, storms, and other nasty surprises can ruin your day. The land combat mode is awesome, and is very strategic.

Commander La'ra · « **Reply #3 on:** July 24, 2005, 12:10:20 pm »

My Dream Game Thread.

I posted that not long after I got Pirates.

I wanna pillage shipping in the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea or make the voyage round Cape Horn...

Jack Morris · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2005, 02:56:57 pm »

http://www.firaxis.com/

Now this IS a gaming company that wants to hear from it's customers!

http://www.firaxis.com/community/polls.php

My reply would be to have an online Pirates game! If those choices are the only ones on the board though, an online F-19 Stealth fighter remake would be cool, IMO. It's great to see these fantastic remakes of the games that ruled back in the day!

Dracho · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2005, 08:03:03 pm »

I think Civ IV is their next big release.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2005, 10:09:01 pm »

I do not know Dracho, there have been many Civ releases so far, and there really wasn't an expectation of a single player Pirates remake to be released, it was a surprise to the gaming world. It seems Sid doesn't think about "What would sell the most?" in the conventional sense, so far it seems to be paying off rather well as Pirates is still a hot seller and has NOT gone down in price as other games (SH3, S.W. JTL) have. I can remember when JTL cost 50 bucks and was full of online bugs and server problems.

Commander La'ra · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2005, 10:23:44 am »

Wouldn't it be awesome if they could splice Colonization with Pirates as an online game? Imagine if, when the governor of Barbados enlisted you to harrass French shipping off Martinique, the governor was a real person with a real reason for asking you to do that, and by taking French prizes, you were helping your side with their efforts to dominate the Carribean.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2005, 10:11:54 am »

Hey La'ra, did you go to the hideout of Montalban yet? You will need 250-300 crew as he has a buttload of Indian warriors (their archers really can shoot better than the Spanish troops) but after you defeat him you get 100,000 gold AND every crewmember that can aid your voyages and regular crew!

Blackbeard pays well too.

As soon as I get Duke in all nations except for Spain I'm going to use Pirate bases only and hit every nation as hard as I can before mandatory retirement. I also learned the large frigate is MUCH better than the ship of the line, those big guns tend to hit magazines of merchies too much. I can't count how many treasure galleons I lost in one game from one salvo from my rare ship of the line.

J. Carney · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:31:12 pm »

Quote from: Jack Morris on July 27, 2005, 10:11:54 am

Hey La'ra, did you go to the hideout of Montalban yet? You will need 250-300 crew as he has a buttload of Indian warriors (their archers really can shoot better than the Spanish troops) but after you defeat him you get 100,000 gold AND every crewmember that can aid your voyages and regular crew!

Blackbeard pays well too.

As soon as I get Duke in all nations except for Spain I'm going to use Pirate bases only and hit every nation as hard as I can before mandatory retirement. I also learned the large frigate is MUCH better than the ship of the line, those big guns tend to hit magazines of merchies too much. I can't count how many treasure galleons I lost in one game from one salvo from my rare ship of the line.

Montalban was a pushover to me... not enough of a fight. The land battle is hellacious, but the fencing duel was kinda anticlimactic. I'm hardly ever playing the storyline, though... I like just sailing around and pretending like I don't have a care in the world. Right now, I have 30K gold pieces and a sloop-of-war that can outfight any frigate in the game- even Blackbeard's... which should be a West Indiaman BTW, he sailed a converted slave ship IIRC.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2005, 03:08:42 pm »

Sid Meier is promoting polygamy! I got married to the Gov's daughter of St. Kitt's and it's still letting me romance other women!

I liked the original Pirates where you got to spend the night boning the barmaid!

I've got my mystic salve and have been pirating for 15 years now. All I got left is to find cities and for some reason I have 2 more romance things to do. I'm curious as to how long the game will let you go as in Pirates and Pirates Gold you usually got ten to twelve years in before it mandatorily retired you.

I need to type a really nice letter to Mr. Meier, if this game goes online in a dynaverse, OMG! How cool it would be! They will need to make the AI like Ubisoft does, I can do anything on this game EXCEPT duel pirates or pirate hunters on swashbuckler level, so I stick to Rogue as I got tired of getting thrown out of the second story window in the tavern.

They make the AI like Ubisoft in ship to ship combat, and make an online Pirates game, I'll be willing to shell out another 50 bucks, though I prefer they just make an expansion pack, much cheaper and sort of what LucasArts games did with the first JTL.

Commander La'ra · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2005, 09:45:31 am »

Quote from: Jack Morris on July 27, 2005, 10:11:54 am

Hey La'ra, did you go to the hideout of Montalban yet? You will need 250-300 crew as he has a buttload of Indian warriors (their archers really can shoot better than the Spanish troops) but after you defeat him you get 100,000 gold AND every crewmember that can aid your voyages and regular crew!

There's very little in Pirates! that I haven't knocked over by now.

Taking on his land army was a nail biter...the first time I did it, I didn't so much defeat his groups of natives as hold the line with my buccaneers while my officers and a group of pirates did an end run to get into the fortress.

Like Carney, I found the swordfight to be much, much easier than the tactical battle.

Also like Carney, I much prefer the smaller, more manueverable Sloop-of-War to the larger, clumsier vessels. I've had a frigate that could hit 20 knots in the right wind, but the square-riggers are so finicky about that...gimme a sloop or a brig that has a hard time ever being becalmed. Doesn't help me when I'm trying to tack my way out of the Gulf of Mexico with a string of prizes, but at least I won't end up motionless in the middle of a fight when the wind suddenly shifts.

Carney: I think Bartholomew Roberts had the converted slave ship. Can't remember right off the top of my head. Also can't remember where Blackbeard got his hands on the Queen Anne's Revenge. I might look it up.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2005, 10:54:28 am »

Correct La'ra, Roberts used a slaver but not as any of his flagships. What fake friends that successful guy had, look at how many of his "friends" stole ships he let them command!

http://www.geocities.com/captcutlass/bio/roberts.html

Blackbeard with a Dutch flute? Well for the early 1700s I guess that would be ok, but I like Roberts thinking, better to have fast and nimble ships of war.

http://www.ocracoke-nc.com/blackbeard/ship/ship.htm

http://whyfiles.org/036pirates/queen_annes_revenge.html

Hmmmm, I sure would not mind finding Blackbeard's treasure!

Dracho · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2005, 10:31:30 pm »

A Brig O' War is a good all-around ship.

Dracho · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2005, 09:06:23 am »

Let's move the chatter over here. Maybe we can do the same thing we were doing in SH3 and compare voyages / careers. In the case of Pirates!, I'd think we need to have a category for each difficulty level.

Darth Sidious · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2005, 10:12:54 am »

Pirates! is the only recent release that's been making me consider getting a gaming quality PC going again.

Something tells me that a 800mhz duron w/ 256meg pc100 ram and 32meg shared video wont cut it.-

Cant afford new comp though which sucks

Jack Morris · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2005, 10:28:52 am »

Darth, Best Buy has credit payments, plus they have a P4 3.0 Sony VAIO for a little over 600 bucks!

Darth Sidious · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2005, 10:40:46 am »

600 is still too high

Plus - i will NEVER buy a bigstore PC again (save perhaps a laptop, and then it'd be a powerbook)

I always buy parts from local sellers, and do all the installation myself. Saves $

My main problem is too many jobchanges in the past year, and moving to boot; and on top of that a lack of staple supplies for PC building.
(I'm out of HD's/ CDRW/Ram).

Quote from: Jack Morris on July 29, 2005, 10:28:52 am

Darth, Best Buy has credit payments, plus they have a P4 3.0 Sony VAIO for a little over 600 bucks!

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2005, 11:20:39 am »

Oh man! If I had seen this discussion before, I would have jumped right in earlier. I love Sid Meier's Pirates! In addition to the new one, I've played the old DOS version, Pirates! Gold, and the Amiga version (the best version made before the new one).

I prefer sailing the Royal Sloop, but the absolute best feeling in the whole game is when (if) you capture a Ship of the Line and then go into battle with it as your flagship. You just have to be careful not to sink enemy ships with one shot.

The jump in difficulty level for the duels between Rogue and Swashbuckler is tremendous. I got really sick of being thrown out of that window. The duels on the ships weren't so bad as long as you eliminated most of the enemy crew with grape shot before you board their ship.

If you need to get the maps to the lost city and have already married one of the governor's daughters, just keep going back to her port, dance with her, and she will eventually give you all of the pieces you need.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2005, 12:40:38 pm »

Thanks for the tips Tricorder!

I too love the ship of the line, but my favorite (and just as rare) is the heavy frigate. I would love to see this made into an online nations at war game, as anyone could play, and the prospects of great fun are tremendous. I also love the close ships sailing together feature, no more chatting on RW wondering who is in what hex and who is going to crash the battle, if you are close you are in, period, and still start out at some distance from the main battle.

I too have found the swashbuckler fights just too much, even if you have the brace of pistols and set of perfectly balanced swords, yet the ship to ship combat is a joke unless they get lucky and hit your magazines.

With an online game, and badarse AI, there would be no more of that crap. Human fighters ROCK (unless you play SH3, that AI does NOT play around).

Dracho · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2005, 12:52:20 pm »

Quote from: Darth Sidious on July 29, 2005, 10:12:54 am

Pirates! is the only recent release that's been making me consider getting a gaming quality PC going again.

Something tells me that a 800mhz duron w/ 256meg pc100 ram and 32meg shared video wont cut it.-

Cant afford new comp though which sucks

www.pricewatch.com

Look at the refurb/open box deals in the upper right.

Darth Sidious · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2005, 01:35:37 pm »

It's not so much the cant find a deal cant afford - it's the broke from everything else in IRL thats the main problem.

I wouldnt mind playin Pirates!, but i can make due with my SNES playing Ogre Battle, or Aerobiz Supersonic, or Uncharted Waters.

Still... 6months maybe after the moving dust settles i might be able to swingaround a couplehundred for a barebones syst

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2005, 08:45:52 pm »

Arrrrrr! I have two glass eyes...

:dink: :dink:

Jack Morris · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2005, 09:18:50 pm »

Arggghhhh, it's a great game, but I want to go against (or with) some of you guys and gals!

Playing Spanish now, got duke from those peeps and the dutch, the French are non-existent in Tortuga area, and after I wed the big bewbie woman from Puerto Cabello I will turn against Spain and work for the English and French. Just curious as to if I will still have a wife if I wipe Puerto Cabello off the map and make her English?

Jack Morris · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2005, 08:46:22 am »

If I could get a direct address to Sid, how many people would be interested in a Pirates online game (as long as it is an expansion pack, not $50)?

I for one would like it, as think of all of us treekiies cruising the Carib.!

I'm going to hunt down some people, heehehehehehehehe... No names mentioned as I like you all, whether we agree or not.

J. Carney · « **Reply #25 on:** August 01, 2005, 04:48:51 pm »

A bump for Jacks good, if rather far-fetched idea.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #26 on:** August 02, 2005, 10:41:59 am »

It may be far-fetched J.C., but think about the best selling games now? JTL, BF2 and others, they are all ONLINE games! The only reason Pirates was top ten was because of us older folks who remembered the days when Gunship, Pirates, Civ, Wing Commander and others ruled the gaming charts.

I'm going to write Mr. Meier a nice letter and explain the many plusses that would be found in a online Pirates game. I even dare say that everyone who has enjoyed the Pirates we have now would love to see an online expansion pack.

One feature I would like to see is a KILLER hurricane, not those pansy storms they have now. AI in ship to ship should be harder than hades, and the frigates should be rare, and the ship of the line should be maybe one every 5 years in a visit to the Carib, but I think it is already like that, as I've played many games so far and I've seen only one ship of the line.

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #27 on:** August 02, 2005, 12:26:32 pm »

In case you haven't found them already, here are some fansites for Pirates!
http://www.addictedtopirates.com/
http://www.piratesahoy.net/
http://www.hookedonpirates.com/
I read about how to get a Ship of the Line appear on one of these sites. It said that you should blockade an English or French port and they will keep sending pirate hunters out to fight you. Eventually, if the game year is late enough, they will send out a Ship of the Line. I've never tried this so I don't know if it works.

AcePylut · « **Reply #28 on:** August 02, 2005, 01:07:03 pm »

Heya JM, did I read that you play StarWars Galaxiexs?

What server are you on / what side / etc?

Jack Morris · « **Reply #29 on:** August 02, 2005, 02:57:59 pm »

I'll be getting it soon, right now I've real life calling me bigtime. I am staying on my executor's butt about getting a fast lawyer to straighten out the 3 remaining houses to be sold. I also have a lawyer for my SSA disability, I thought it would be backdated to the date VA confirmed Sarin exposure, but I was wrong, SSA only goes back one year, so I've pissed away 800 plus in extra income since Aug 2002 because I did not do my research on it fully. At least that ball is going. I've GOT to do something about these antique Chippendales and stuff that I inherited, one I do not care where I park my butt, as long as I'm comfy, and two I can do much better on the markets than in appreciation of antiques. The paperwork on them is in storage with only executor access (he lives in SLC, Utah) so I have to find an EXPERT in early American antiques, not some joe blow. If it takes a flight to Britain and auction at Sotheby's then so be it, I want max value for those babies.

I also have to write some letters to some companies I deal with, as they have the money and power to get things that will benefit their business whereas I do not get any opportunities unless it is borderline legal.

I'm also researching the new energy plan as Seth and others know us vets can get veterans small business loans, and us disabled vets HAVE to be awarded a certain percentage of Federal contracts with different agencies, and my idea is alternative electricity for military bases, something that anyone can tell you who has lived on one is VERY expensive for our govt. and taxpayers.

Last but not least, a letter to Sid with our requests for Pirates, and then I will also have to buy a new joystick (USB) so that I can play JTL when I purchase the Total Experience.

I look forward to flying with or against some of you all soon!

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