Topic: Bahh, damn computer

[Kruk]

Well I managed to log on and move around the map. But every time I enter a mission, I get the mission screen, then on to the game screen but as soon as I hear the warp sound, crash. SFCOP.EXE error or something.

Then I get a Explorer error message. The same one I get on a regular basis now.

I guess it's time for a new comp. Unless some of you have a suggestion.

[Bonk]

Running the latest DirectX? All your firewalls off?

[Kruk]

Running the latest DirectX? All your firewalls off?

don't have fire walls, And I am running the latest direct X. My comp is old.

P2 450
186 meg ram
built in videocard 8 mb.

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Do you have OP+ 4.0 installed and DieHards extra models?

[Kruk]

Do you have OP+ 4.0 installed and DieHards extra models?

OP+ installed yes. DieHard model, I don't know. where can I get them.

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

In the installer for AOTK2 that DH made, there is a batch file which needs to be run that places the fighter models in the folders that you will need. However, if your problem was a fighter model issue, this wouldnt be causing the game to crash until fighters were being released by ships. Your problem sounds like something else.

[Kruk]

In the installer for AOTK2 that DH made, there is a batch file which needs to be run that places the fighter models in the folders that you will need. However, if your problem was a fighter model issue, this wouldnt be causing the game to crash until fighters were being released by ships. Your problem sounds like something else.

It's most likely something else. Thanks Tracey

[SkyFlyer]

built in videocard 8 mb.

combined with this.

P2 450

Is your problem I think.

The minimum specs are

Pentium III 500 MHz (Pentium II 350 with 3D acceleration)

But the OP+ 4.0 models are higher detail than the stock ones i think... so I think you should pick up a 32 or 64mb PCI video card. Cost maybe $50.

[Braxton_RIP]

With OP, I have noticed that the specs can be thrown out the window.  I run a 256MB, Radeon X800 and have an Athelon 64-bit 2.2 GHz processor, and I consistantly run at 107% of clock speed on the processor and 115% clock speed on that video card (yes, they are overclocked), which, even when I play Doom 3, does not happen.  I don't know how Taldren did it, but they somehow have op allocating whatever processor and memory time that isn't going to vital system functions and other porgrams to OP.  Quite impressive really, considering from the time I double click the OP icon to the time I get onto a server takes about 12 seconds.

[SkyFlyer]

The load times between my 633mhz celeron and my P3 1.1ghz are huge. I swear its like 1/10th the amount of time to load. Trust me, 450mhz and an 8mb vid card isn't enough to run OP well, if even run it at all.

[Mr_Tricorder]

I'm running OP on a 1.4 GHz Athalon Thunderbird with 512 MB of DDR RAM (from when it was new) and an ATI Radeon 9200SE 128 MB video card.  These specs aren't super great, but they aren't piss poor either, and I have a significant load time with OP.

[Komodo]

I've run OP on my old P2 350 for years now very well- best thing I did was get a decent amount of memory (246Mb RAM) and get a newer video card (It ran fine on a Radeon 7000, now there's a 7500 in there)

I could even run SFC3 with it, just barely- that's the stock version. With all the mods though, and the huge model files, it isn't up to the task.

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

To get OP to load up quicker, remove all uneccesary mission scripts from your Assets/Scripts folder. When OP first loads up, it executes each and every script file and compiles a mission matching database so it doesnt have to do this later when playing the game. Missions that you arent using, then, just add to the clutter.

[SkyFlyer]

To get OP to load up quicker, remove all uneccesary mission scripts from your Assets/Scripts folder. When OP first loads up, it executes each and every script file and compiles a mission matching database so it doesnt have to do this later when playing the game. Missions that you arent using, then, just add to the clutter.

The game "loads" he just crashes when he goes to run a mission... I think his problem is this:

built in videocard 8 mb.

[Mr_Tricorder]

I know too many people who expect great things from their HP Pavillions and similar computers with built-in graphics.  When their brand new game won't work and they ask me why, they don't want to hear that they need a real video card.  In fact, they usually insist that I suggest an alternative or try to fix it because they have absolutely no concept of what a video card is and how it is any different from what their computer already has.  I really wish these companies would stop making personal computers with crappy built-in graphics and include real graphics cards with all of their machines.

[SkyFlyer]

I know too many people who expect great things from their HP Pavillions and similar computers with built-in graphics. When their brand new game won't work and they ask me why, they don't want to hear that they need a real video card. In fact, they usually insist that I suggest an alternative or try to fix it because they have absolutely no concept of what a video card is and how it is any different from what their computer already has. I really wish these companies would stop making personal computers with crappy built-in graphics and include real graphics cards with all of their machines.

And they are a hell of a job to disable in Windows... But yeah... an 8mb internal isnt going to cut it... Sorry.. 8mb external... maybe. But not an internal one.

[Braxton_RIP]

I know too many people who expect great things from their HP Pavillions and similar computers with built-in graphics. When their brand new game won't work and they ask me why, they don't want to hear that they need a real video card. In fact, they usually insist that I suggest an alternative or try to fix it because they have absolutely no concept of what a video card is and how it is any different from what their computer already has. I really wish these companies would stop making personal computers with crappy built-in graphics and include real graphics cards with all of their machines.

And they are a hell of a job to disable in Windows... But yeah... an 8mb internal isnt going to cut it... Sorry.. 8mb external... maybe. But not an internal one.

Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Hardware -> Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> Right click <Onboard display adapter namer> -> Disable -> Done

This is hard why?

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

The BIOS on my motherboard disables built-in graphics as soon as it detects the presence of a video adapter card.

[SkyFlyer]

Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Hardware -> Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> Right click <Onboard display adapter namer> -> Disable -> Done

This is hard why?

It redetects itself..

And tracey... my old mobo couldnt do that

[CaptJosh]

Skyflyer, he said to Click on disable, not remove. It will not redetect if it's still sitting there in the device manager disabled. Beyond that, if your old computer wouldn't auto-disable, you should have looked for a Primary display adapter setting in the BIOS. Or one that said "Disable onboard video" or something to that effect.

[Kruk]

I was able to run SFC:OP on my computer without problems before (with the 8 MB internal vid card). But lately I've been getting explorer error message when I leave my computer on for too long. If the new OP+ thingy as upgraded the graphics a little bit then yes that might be why. But I did buy it in 1999 and it is old.

I've tried buying video cards but everytime I had problems playing games. The only game I managed to play with a video card was Combat Flight Simulator 1. I managed to play one game of SFC OP with a new card but then problems started appearing (computer crashes). Probably because I didn't know how to disable the build in one. ButI did manage to get a refund everytime or store credit.

I'm not gone throw my money for just a vid card. I need a new computer period. As soon as I find a new job (hopefully very soon). That will be the first thing I do. But for now. I use the old one to surf the net and for microsoft Word. Thats all I need really. I've got an Xbox for games. Although I do miss SFC from time to time. LIKE RIGHT NOW

[CaptJosh]

Time for a new PC.

[SkyFlyer]

Skyflyer, he said to Click on disable

Ah ok... Well it doesnt matter now...   No onboard video on this card.