Topic: Now thats a big Fish

[Khalee1]

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/irresistible/4752763/detail.html#

And if I remember is'nt that the size Jaws was suppose to be?

And with this I'm going to bed as I gota work tonight.

[Ravok]

The thing evaded predators and survived all its life. Just to be caught and killed and shown off by some primitive testosterone, driven wankers.

 What an absolute pointless waste. If it isn't bothering anyone leave it alone.

 You hunt to eat,and use what you kill. This is an abomonation.

[OlBuzzard]

DUDE !  that IS one big shark !

[J. Carney]

Rav,

They HAD a reason for catching it- to prove that they were the best fisherman out there... a better preditor than the shark. It's sad that they were late to the weigh in, because they would have certianly won.

Your from FL, so you know that a lot of those tourney fish are also bought up by hotels, restraunts, etc after the weigh-in. This guy will probably be carefully skinned, make a heck of a lot of shark fin soup and 'scallops' (most often what are called 'scallops' are just flavored pieces of ray and shark meat) and his hide will be prepared and mounted... a pretty noble tribute to the beast in itself. Hundreds of thousands will admire it, and the skill and strength of the men that brought it in.

It didn't die in vein.

[Ravok]

J, I detest Trophy Hunting because it culls the biggest strongest,smartest and heathyest of the hunt.

 This is a fools way to go about things, removing those genes forever from the gene pool. Leaving immature weak and defective animals to try to continue the line.

 If the same thing was done to us yearly, think of the mess it would make of our civilisation.

 And think of all the sharks they went through to get to this one. You cant catch and release them, because their skeleton is made out of cartilage and they give them selves severe internal injury's fighting, and being hauled out of the water.

 The mortality rate is around 98%.

[OlBuzzard]

Hmmmm 

Ravok ..  yu present somthing I was personally unaware of...

I sort of thought ir was more like bass fishing.  Most states that have bass tourneys are sponsored by groups that (just for example) require bass boats to have "lives wells" on board.  Penalties are accessed for dead fish.  While culling maybe allowed .. those released must be returned to the water unharmed.

While I do fish one or two toruneys a year ..  (in a private group)  no true Pro wants to see "wasted" fish.  As you pointed out, heck if ya did that ...  soon the population would be wiped out.

Also most states have limits to size and number of fish of EACH type of fish  (Bass, Crapie, Waleye  etc ) caught.

If I personally catch smaller fish I release it to the water as soon as possible ( so it does not die).  If the hook is in the gill plate ..  or swallowed too deep ...  I cut the line near the hook and retrun the fish to the water.  (BTW....   just a side note here on that last item..  A fishes natural imune system and the acid in his body will eventually get rid of the hook.)

98% mortality rate suggests there should be limits on the number of sharks caught each day ...  period.


Just one other thought ..  in stead of flaming the heck out of this poor dudes but right out of the gate ..  (who as far as I could tell only reported this exceptionaly large fish caught)  ...  actually bothering to ask him if he was aware of this sort of thing FIRST ...  ?

Not trying to start a flame with you guys ..  ( I think most of you know me) ..   just pointing somthing out.


thanks

[J. Carney]

J, I detest Trophy Hunting because it culls the biggest strongest,smartest and heathyest of the hunt.

 This is a fools way to go about things, removing those genes forever from the gene pool. Leaving immature weak and defective animals to try to continue the line.

This is only partially true.

Generally, by the time that a fish or animal has reached 'trophy' status, it's already been breding for years. Those astounding genes have been passed on dozens or hundreds (for mamals) or milliions (fish) of times.

If you remove a fish like this from the area, you don't damage the genetic quality of the species- you give a lot of his offspring room to grow and mature. I know in a pond, you start culling fish that get over a certian weight- one great big fish removed makes room for a lot more younger, healthy fish to grow. When a fish/animal/tree gets this big, it's eating up more resources than it is doing good by passing on it's genes.


I know sharks do hurt themselves when they are caught- another thing you left out is that sharks almost never get hooked in the mouth; they almost invariably 'swallow the hook.' Even if they could be released, they'd die of blood poisoning.

[Jack Morris]

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/sharks/species/Greatwhite.shtml

I would say the Great Whites are more than likely larger than that Tiger shark they caught. That Tiger shark was 15 ft long, not too bad at all, but not the 20 ft monsters they can be.

I too detest these "Monster Shark" derbys (And I grew up on the Gulf coast), if they want a monster shark (Great Whites are a protected species) let them get a "bangstick" and go scuba diving and fight them one on one. This stuff with using high tech fishing equipment reminds me of bullfighting, it's all a joke (they put multiple spears in the bull to weaken him before the fight). Let a matador fight an unhurt bull and let's see a real bullfight for once! I lay odds on the unhurt bull.