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New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« on: July 21, 2005, 10:38:14 am »
Including more deleted scences


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Wesley's New Mission (59s)

Data and B-4 (1m 50s)

The Chance for Peace (56s)

A Loss of Self (35s)

Remember Him? (Extended) (1m 47s)

Cleaning out Data's Quarters (1m 43s)

Crusher at Starfleet Medical (42s)



The Wesley, Data, and Dr. Crusher ones sound like they'll be the most important ones to the fans.


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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 10:43:57 am »
Cool find RB. Looks like I'll be buying another DVD.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 04:22:22 pm »
Looks like I'll be buying another Nemesis DVD as well.  I still contend that its a good Trek movie, much better in my opinion than Insurrection or Generations.  In my opinion of course.
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 04:25:16 pm »
Looks like I'll be buying another Nemesis DVD as well.  I still contend that its a good Trek movie, much better in my opinion than Insurrection or Generations.  In my opinion of course.

 I agree Dash I thought it was the best of the lot myself. I never understood why people didnt like it? :-\

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2005, 12:34:40 pm »
I thought itwas good.

The only problem I have is that they showed the Enterprise crashing into something in the previews. Nice way to kill the movie before it even started.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2005, 12:56:28 pm »
I thought the same thing. :) You really have to wonder what those Marketing genius's are thinking. ::)

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2005, 11:08:44 am »

I'll probably get this, Nemesis IMO was one of the better trek films, still my favourite one has to be The Wrath of Khan.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2005, 11:10:42 am »
 The wrath of Kahn was hands up the best of the lot!!! Ricado Maltaban stunned me with his preformance, especially aftre Fantasy Island. :P :P :P :P

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2005, 11:12:37 am »
The wrath of Kahn was hands up the best of the lot!!! Ricado Maltaban stunned me with his preformance, especially aftre Fantasy Island. :P :P :P :P

Yep Ricardo Montalban was fantastic in the film, IMO the best trek baddie ever!

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2005, 11:20:40 am »
The wrath of Kahn was hands up the best of the lot!!! Ricado Maltaban stunned me with his preformance, especially aftre Fantasy Island. :P :P :P :P

Yep Ricardo Montalban was fantastic in the film, IMO the best trek baddie ever!

 He blew me away!!!! In every scene you can just see the all consuming hatered just oozing out of his pores.

 If it where possible to reach out of hell for revenge. I believe he would be the one to do it.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2005, 11:32:12 am »

I'll probably get this, Nemesis IMO was one of the better trek films, still my favourite one has to be The Wrath of Khan.

I agree with both statements ..

Also ..  the only real problem with Nemesis was WHEN it was released.  There were 2 block busters released just a WEEK or so after Nemesis came out.  There again it was more of a marketing blunder.  It's not like these guys have just started in the business.  Most of them have been around for a number of years.


IMHO ...  they should have released at least 2 to 3 weeks AFTER "Two Towers"  ...  and what ever the other movie was at the time  (One that I did not even bother to see I might add)
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 08:49:15 am »

I think the actors did the best they could with their roles in Nemesis; and you could tell they enjoyed being together again.  Unfortuantely, the script stunk to high heaven. 

I really wish they could make one more Next Gen movie.  I like that cast and I'd like to see them end on a high note.

Oddly enough, I'll probably get this DVD in order to see the deleted scenes.  I didn't like the movie, and I didn't really ever like Wesly Crusher.  (Not the actor's fault.)  But I'd like to see what happened to him at the end of his story.  It would sort of wrap things up for me.  (And no, I don't want to read any spoilers, I want to see it!  :P  ;) )

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2005, 03:19:20 am »
Nemesis was pretty terrible.  I like to think that there was so much footage left on the cutting room floor that it stripped away plot points and other such, but I'm not really sure how much bandaging it would take to save the TNG crew from the terrible script, the fanboy ships/effect/etc, and the contrived nature of many important events in the movie.
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2005, 09:40:47 am »
STII: The Wrath of Khan is by far the best ever Trek movie, and in second place STVI: The Undiscovered Country.  :thumbsup:

Nemesis was a decent enough movie on its own, but it took so many things from so many other movies. The whole Beloved Cast Member who Sacrificies Himself to Prevent his Ship from being Destroyed by the Big Techno Bomb on the Bad Guy's Ship. Anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that it was kinda familiar? (Hint: See above)

The best TNG movie was Insurrection. Tht cast had a good time on set as you can clearly see it in the movie, and it was a lot more back to basics for TNG. I loved F. Murray Abrahams speech to Admiral Doughty about the Federation opinion polls and such. That was class.  :)

First Contact nicked the music from Final Frontier, as well as playing about with the "history" created by the Reeves Stevens in their book "Federation". Not to mention the fact it partially contradicted the very first TNG episode telling us the Post Atomic Horror was in 2079, over 25 years after WWIII happens in FC.

Just my pennies' worth.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2005, 03:27:05 pm »
All I care about is if the print is better on this DVD than the last one.  Better picture equals better screencaps.


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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2005, 04:00:26 pm »
Nemisis sucked "Spock's brain" was more entertaining.

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2005, 01:18:55 pm »
Nemesis was simply disappointing as it had the Romulans (perhaps the last bad guys in Star Trek)
basically unable to get their act together unless led by a Picard clone and some crazy ex-slaves.

Oddly enough I don't consider it as a bad movie so much as a really bad story.
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2005, 01:51:43 pm »
Not to mention the fact it partially contradicted the very first TNG episode telling us the Post Atomic Horror was in 2079, over 25 years after WWIII happens in FC.

Well, if it's called the [i\Post[/i]-Atomic Horror, then logically it would have to be after WW3.  ;)  We didn't get any sort of indication what kind of shape Europe was in during FC, but if there were nuclear warheads used there, there would still be plenty of radiation and other side effects left over 25 years later...
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2005, 09:26:13 pm »
Considering how close Trek's WW3 is to modern history and how politically charged any speculation on such a conflict would entail, I doubt we'll see any discussion on that conflict in either filmed Trek or novel Trek.


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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2005, 02:57:55 am »
The main point about WW3 IMO is that civilisation fel and then rose up as something new. Gone were the bullies who used politics to control mass populations, people started to care about each other and greed was whiped out.  I say roll on WW3!

As for Nemises, it seemed like a remake of the Tasha Yar story form the TNG series as was Insurection.  STII is the best acted movie (Khan steals the whole movie) while ST1 is my fav for the story, well done Alan Dean Foster! <--- Geat Author
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2005, 09:32:56 am »
Nemesis was simply disappointing as it had the Romulans (perhaps the last bad guys in Star Trek)
basically unable to get their act together unless led by a Picard clone and some crazy ex-slaves.

Oddly enough I don't consider it as a bad movie so much as a really bad story.

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I'm growing angry here.   The senate and the praetor have gotten soft!  Here they are discussing trade agreements instead of declaring war on the Federation.

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Why aren't they declaring war on the Federation?!

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We want war!  We want war now!!!!  Kill Feds!!  Kill Feds!!!  Kill Feds!!!!

I know!  We'll kill the Praetor and the senate!  We'll sneak in a bomb that turns them all to ash and wipe them out!   That's it!  We'll take down the entire government structure!  Then we'll seize power and do what we want!

NO WAIT!  Even better!  We'll turn over the empire to a human clone and his bunch of aliens that we consider expendable subromulans!  Yeah that's it!  Big, ugly, Ron Perlman type subromulans that we can't respect will be given control over us and they will lead us to glory!!!  Wooo hooo!!!!

<weeks pass>

Hey!  That bald-headed geek isn't declaring war on the Federation!  Doesn't he know why we put him in charge?  Why isnt' he declaring war on the Federation?  Why is he playing footsie with Deanna Troi?  Why is he dumping a data head with a faint signal onto a distant planet that the Enterprise likely wno't even notice (unless we get really lucky) because it's almost out of range?  Now that he has the Enterprise here, why isn't he declaring war on the Federation?

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What's taking so bloody long?   We want war!  We want war now!!!!  Kill Feds!!!!  Kill Feds!!!!!  Kill all Feds!!!!!!!!!

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Right, that does it.  Our patience is at an end.  If this clone geek and his subromulans aren't going to declare war on the Feds fast enough to suit us, then we are just going to have to kill him and save Picard's ass at the same time.

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Hah!  He's dead!  All our war obstacles are out of our way!  This time we'll do it RIGHT!  This time we'll seize power ourselves, and then we'll.................. talk to the Federation and make peace.

Hey, didn't we start this whole thing because we wanted a war?

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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2005, 03:04:03 pm »
Pics of the menus and clips from deleted scenes over at DVD Answers.


Includes our first ever look at the Enterprise-E's version of Ten Forward and Worf "inheriting" Spot.

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2005, 01:53:19 am »
Data's death wasn't the only thing in that movie borrowed from other Trek flicks.  Anybody else say this line in their head when Riker got rid of the Viceroy?  "I..(kick)...am getting...(kick)...sick...(kick)...and tired...(kick)...of...(meaningful pause)...YOU!!!!"
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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2005, 02:26:08 am »
I think the Gorn nailed it.  The movie on it's own... not bad.  The movie as a Trek movie SUCKS!!!!  First off, why on god's green earth would the romulans go all that way and then half of them settle on a rock that is so hostile, that one side is always facing the sun, and the other is in darkness (that is the same side always faces it, for those of you who are picking things apart, since all planets tend to have one side facing a sun, and one side facing away. ;))  Where the heck did these Remans come from?  Whose lame brained idea was that?  Ooooh, let's make scary vampire people.  They don't even really have the structure of a Romulan, assuming they are supposed to be from the same stock (which I hope they aren't).  I haven't read any of the books, by the way, but then again they say that the books aren't canon anyway.

The possability of them being from the same stock brings me to one of the great travesties of modern Trek.  Romulan Forehead Ridges!  I feel my heart beating faster already.  What the heck?  Not only did we have a whole episode through which the whole subtension was based on the fact that they look EXACTLY like Vulcans, but given the life cycle of Vulcans, their length of life and whatnot, how much longer would it take to create such a drastic facial change in the population?  Hmmmmm.  I see a problem, given Trek history and when they left Vulcan to colonize elsewhere.  All that aside, what was really, really cool about the Romulans was that they were just like Vulcans.  They could in fact be the Vulcan standing next to you, whereas the opposite would be much more difficult.  Can you see Vulcans acting emotionally just to fit in as a spy?  Hmmmm.  (here's a thought, that I had after an episode I saw a while back.  Where do pudgy Vulcans come from?  Wouldn't logic dictate that they eat a healthier amount of food and get more exercise?  Shouldn't they be more selective in their actors?  They've got to start somewhere).

The Romulans now are pathetic (as per the above outline posted above, of the most rediculous plot imaginable involvingr Romulans).  I was so excited when I heard that finally the Romulans were going to get a major movie appearance and not be window dressing.  Ooops.  They were still window dressing, even in a movie that was supposed to be about them.  Instead we get Shinzon, lord of the Nosferatu like vampire people.  I didn't see this movie for a very long time.  In fact I just checked it out from the library the other day, because I couldn't bear to part with any cash in order to see it.  I had mixed emotions.  Not a horrible movie on it's own, but a travesty for anyone who has even a mild liking of Romulans.  S'Cipio is so right in his post.  The guys who came up with this whole thing should be punished in a very public way.  No wonder Trek is going through such hard times.  They just don't give a rat's butt about history, the fans expectations, or anything.  Let them make their own shows if they want to tell something that doesn't fit (heck they could have even created a new race like in Insurrection in order to tell the story. I guess we should just count ourselves lucky that they didn't have saggy skinned Gorn or Andorians in that one. ;))  Of course after the relatively poor performance of that movie, I think they were probably tied to using "major" Trek race for the followup, no matter what story they decided to go with.

I was also wondering why they don't have any kind of bomb, or biological agent scanners in the Romulan senate.  Heck you sneeze in any room on the Enterprise and an alarm goes off.  It's not like they should have had to walk through anything, it should have just sensed something dangerous was in the room, shouldn't it?  I mean it's the freaking Senate!  The seat of power for the entire Empire.

The plus to having watched it, though, was that I decided to sit down and knock out a little Trek music on my computer.  I've got some cleaning on it to do and a few more sections, but I've been really enjoying listening to it.

Now I'll stop posting and go back to dreaming of the days when Romulans had no ridges, and were actually intelligent warriors of honor, instead of the weak, moronic mutants we are now presented with on a regular basis.  And to think of all the fantasies I could have had about Dina Meyer in "real" Romulan makeup and dress, instead of looking like a washed out troglodyte.  Oh, well.


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Re: New features for Nemesis Special Edition DVD announced
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2005, 09:14:19 am »
[quote[First Contact nicked the music from Final Frontier, as well as playing about with the "history" created by the Reeves Stevens in their book "Federation".
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That book isn't canon, though. ;D

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