Topic: Can I ask J'inn and the other RMs to consider this

[FPF-DieHard]

Also wanted to say, don't you think if your a captain and you loose a Capital ship, that your race's government is going to laugh at you when you ask to be deployed again with the same thing in the same place?

not if you name is fluf  

[Matsukasi]

Also wanted to say, don't you think if your a captain and you loose a Capital ship, that your race's government is going to laugh at you when you ask to be deployed again with the same thing in the same place?

not if you name is fluf  

< chuckle >

WORD!

[FPF-DieHard]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

[KAT J'inn]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

[FPF-DieHard]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

[Braxton_RIP]

F-cCAR+,

  As long as you don't make the same typos in the shiplist, the world will be a better place  

[762_XC]

Enforcement of the no-capital ship fleeting rule has always been a concern to me.

Suggestion: Allow them to fleet, but exempt whomever they draft from the disengagment rule.

This is enough to discourage them from fleeting, but not too severe a penalty if one accidently drafts another.

[SkyFlyer]

Enforcement of the no-capital ship fleeting rule has always been a concern to me.

Suggestion: Allow them to fleet, but exempt whomever they draft from the disengagment rule.

This is enough to discourage them from fleeting, but not too severe a penalty if one accidently drafts another.

I like that.

[Green]

I'm tired of biting my tongue. I am tired of seeing this issue misrepresented as some attempt to return to glory the DF+ AI slaughter tactic. I don't even FLY drone ships. Hell, I haven't flown Kzinti even for at least 2 years. This rule pissed me off when I was a Lyran for cripes sake. Are you gonna tell me that I was trying to ESG my way to victory now? Gimme a friggin break.

My beef with this rule is the uncontested allowance of multiple goddamn capital ships to bully their way across the universe, especially given the NOTORIOUS connection issues that some pilots have. It makes it nigh impossible to counter effectively. It's complete horsesh*t to ban me from a hex for ANY amount of time if I'm left alone in a mission vesus 2, hell who am I kidding 3 capital ships when my wingman goes ' poof ' right at the start.

Make a rule forcing those damn capital ships to not fleet together and I'll shut up with UNGODLY glee about disengagement rules.

Until then, stop pigeonholing those of us who think this rule stinks on ice.

/rant
I feel better now

Okay, grumpy old man

[Julin Eurthyr]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Rommie Heavy Hawks (all FHx, NHx, etc. etc.) and Gorn 180+ BPV CAs should get the same treatment then...

It should work that way... I can see the I-CAZ maybe getting that treatment, the rest of them are close enough to the "stock" CAs that they should either be unrestricted CAs or all ships in the BPV range of the I-CA line should be restricted...

[Julin Eurthyr]

For the record, we're looking, right now, at maybe a handful of pilots flying "dedicated" ISC, I wouldn't worry about the fleet romping all over the server...

[Mr.Bad151]

I might be wrong.. but the Gorn don't have any "vanillia" CA's over 180.  Only thing the Gorn have over 180 would be BCH, carriers, or casual PFTs.. none of which would be considered vanillia.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Rommie Heavy Hawks (all FHx, NHx, etc. etc.) and Gorn 180+ BPV CAs should get the same treatment then...

It should work that way... I can see the I-CAZ maybe getting that treatment, the rest of them are close enough to the "stock" CAs that they should either be unrestricted CAs or all ships in the BPV range of the I-CA line should be restricted...

I think this is fair.  Otherwise you are discriminating by race.

[RFA-Wraith]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Nice to know this a couple days before server starts...

[Kroma BaSyl]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Nice to know this a couple days before server starts...

You mean as opposed to a couple days after?

[Kroma BaSyl]

I might be wrong.. but the Gorn don't have any "vanillia" CA's over 180.  Only thing the Gorn have over 180 would be BCH, carriers, or casual PFTs.. none of which would be considered vanillia.

Just the CCH at 173

[Hexx]

Yeah I'd have to say the CAZ should be considered a CC, but the CA/CAW/CAY
should be line
They have plasma, they suck
CAZ should be a CC of course due to those &@^!%@*@!(!  I torps.

[FPF-DieHard]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Rommie Heavy Hawks (all FHx, NHx, etc. etc.) and Gorn 180+ BPV CAs should get the same treatment then...

It should work that way... I can see the I-CAZ maybe getting that treatment, the rest of them are close enough to the "stock" CAs that they should either be unrestricted CAs or all ships in the BPV range of the I-CA line should be restricted...

This is not open to debate, not trying to be rude, simply don't have time to do things by committee.

[el-Karnak]

For the record, we're looking, right now, at maybe a handful of pilots flying "dedicated" ISC, I wouldn't worry about the fleet romping all over the server...

Yep.  Dizzy and Hexx on the same side as the ISC, so you don't have to worry about Karnak totally massacring them on a daily basis.  There is the Agave issue though. I guess, y'all will just have to suck it up there.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

J'inn, need feedback.   I can do this if you want, just say the word.

It seems like everyone would be cool with it.   I just don't want to stick you with anymore work, esp., since I haven't done a damn thing. 

If you have the time, and you think it's a good idea,  go ahead an implement it.   You have Carte Blanche on the details. 

Let me know the results so I can change the rules.

I'm going to consider the I-CA/CAW/CAY/CAZ a command ship.   Flame away 

all "Vannila" ship (non-command, non-specialty) will be flagged with a "v".  Examples: F-cCAR+, K-vD5K, R-vWE, I-vCLY

Rommie Heavy Hawks (all FHx, NHx, etc. etc.) and Gorn 180+ BPV CAs should get the same treatment then...

It should work that way... I can see the I-CAZ maybe getting that treatment, the rest of them are close enough to the "stock" CAs that they should either be unrestricted CAs or all ships in the BPV range of the I-CA line should be restricted...

This is not open to debate, not trying to be rude, simply don't have time to do things by committee.

The NHK and RHK are command variants anyway Julin so are thus excluded from any shorter disengagement times as well, same for all the CCHs, Kzin, Gorn, the Fed CB etc.