Topic: OT ~ What's bigger, a Nuke Bomb or an Anti-matter Bomb?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I won't. after all, I'm not dead yet! 

[Hexx]

I've often wondered about how many discussions concerning anti-matter have eventually
turned to Monty-Python..

[Braxton_RIP]

I could actually be considered an expert about it too, that is the sad part  , the matter/antimatter that is.

[SSCF-LeRoy]

You don't get it Karnak. Nothing is more destructive than a Shopasaurus Rex at a sale. NOTHING. Just ask Jinn. He has one, or rather one has him.

Insignificant next to the power of the Force... Wait, SR IS the Force

[Hexx]

I could actually be considered an expert about it too, that is the sad part  , the matter/antimatter that is.

Hmmm
Rereading all your posts on this topic maybe you should stop at Blockbuster on your way home tonight.. 

[Braxton_RIP]

I could actually be considered an expert about it too, that is the sad part  , the matter/antimatter that is.

Hmmm
Rereading all your posts on this topic maybe you should stop at Blockbuster on your way home tonight.. 

Might as well let it spill, since a few people already know: I'm a PhD in physics, so, yes, I know what I am talking about when it comes to stuff like this.

[Hexx]

I could actually be considered an expert about it too, that is the sad part  , the matter/antimatter that is.

Hmmm
Rereading all your posts on this topic maybe you should stop at Blockbuster on your way home tonight.. 

Might as well let it spill, since a few people already know: I'm a PhD in physics, so, yes, I know what I am talking about when it comes to stuff like this.

B-L-O-C-K-B-U-S-T-E-R Hard to miss
Big shiny yellow letters, blue background
Your coworkers can thank me later.

[Braxton_RIP]

I could actually be considered an expert about it too, that is the sad part  , the matter/antimatter that is.

Hmmm
Rereading all your posts on this topic maybe you should stop at Blockbuster on your way home tonight.. 

Might as well let it spill, since a few people already know: I'm a PhD in physics, so, yes, I know what I am talking about when it comes to stuff like this.

B-L-O-C-K-B-U-S-T-E-R Hard to miss
Big shiny yellow letters, blue background
Your coworkers can thank me later.

Might help you loosen up a little bit.

[Hexx]

I'd say that it doesn't.. but that's a revelation I'm saving for another time..

[762_XC]

Just wait until I break out the physics behind flammable Pop Tarts!

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Ok, so if you want to play the density game, here is one for you:



Imagine a cube with sides as long as this line:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It is made of gold, and, here's the kicker, it has the same weight as you do   

This will be true under all circumstances in the absence of gravity

[Dizzy]

Ok, so Storrmbringer gave the best description I can make sense of. Lotsa good stuff, but how do you capture antimatter, hold it w/o it coming into contact with matter... and how would it go off? Pop the top and let it come into contact with the can? Also... if it needs matter to go off (why dont they just cancel out instead of exploding) poping the can in a vacuum like outer space, would the antimatter dissipate in the absence of matter... or someone said light from the stars would do something... or would the antimatter kinda sit there... ooze from the can so to speak and lurk waiting for something to stroll by?

And we got a measurement figure... but how many grams would it take to yield in excess of the worlds largest hydrogen bomb?

[Hexx]

Ok, so if you want to play the density game, here is one for you:



Imagine a cube with sides as long as this line:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It is made of gold, and, here's the kicker, it has the same weight as you do   

This will be true under all circumstances in the absence of gravity

Can you ever truly remove *all* gravitational influences though?

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Yes, matter/antimatter reactions convert 100% of the mass of the reactants into energy, however energy comes in a huge number of forms and it really depends upon what type of energy is produced. For an antimatter 'explosion' to occur, some of this energy must be converted into kinetic energy. Consider a nuetron bomb, while it releases a lot of energy, there is no explosive force.

[CaptJosh]

Make that almost no explosive force. A little bird told me that there is still a small blast radius. Somewhere around the size of a car, IIRC what said bird said.

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Ok, so if you want to play the density game, here is one for you:



Imagine a cube with sides as long as this line:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It is made of gold, and, here's the kicker, it has the same weight as you do   

This will be true under all circumstances in the absence of gravity

Can you ever truly remove *all* gravitational influences though?

Gravity in Newtonian terms is no different tyo any other force. When a force is applied to a mass it accelerates (newton's 2nd law F=Ma). The "weight" of a mass then is nothing else other than a measure of the force acting on it. In the absence of any force, an object has no weight, but it still has mass (unless of course the object is moving at the speed of light)

So, while there exists no place in the universe that does not have some gravitational influence (since all points in the universe are affected by the gravity of every mass or object in the universe), the sum vector total of all forces acting an object can be zero (in which case it has no weight).

[Hexx]

Ughh OK IIRC the "largest" "Nuke" (there's what-about 15 different kinda?) was claimed as
@ 100 mt and (I think?) detonated at about half that yield by the Soviets in the early 60's

So basically (looking at TJ's )it would release .. god actually I'll let one of the brains do the math,
The (predicted) energy from an antimatter/matter reaction is ar less.
You'd probably come close to the 100mt's with a few  grams?
(Or I could be way off)

I think you'd be best looking at the TJ's released during the explosion.
But I just don't feel like working out the math, not that I couldn't of course..

[Stormbringer]

Ok, so Storrmbringer gave the best description I can make sense of. Lotsa good stuff, but how do you capture antimatter, hold it w/o it coming into contact with matter... and how would it go off? Pop the top and let it come into contact with the can? Also... if it needs matter to go off (why dont they just cancel out instead of exploding) poping the can in a vacuum like outer space, would the antimatter dissipate in the absence of matter... or someone said light from the stars would do something... or would the antimatter kinda sit there... ooze from the can so to speak and lurk waiting for something to stroll by?

And we got a measurement figure... but how many grams would it take to yield in excess of the worlds largest hydrogen bomb?

Well the largest yield fusion bombs ever tested were 2oo or so megatons and there were 500 megaton designs. the hiroshima and nagasaki bombs were measured in kilotons. and those were the equivelent of one tenth of what i was talking about above. so my guess would be half a kilogram of antimatter.

it could be stored in small amounts using simple static charges in a matrix where the sides of a pit were equal in charge to the amount of antimatter. a nano technology array of such pits on an IC like platform where the number of pits are huge and where the polarity of the walls of the pit could be switched might safely do it without large magnetic bottles.

[Hexx]

Ok, so if you want to play the density game, here is one for you:



Imagine a cube with sides as long as this line:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It is made of gold, and, here's the kicker, it has the same weight as you do   

This will be true under all circumstances in the absence of gravity

Can you ever truly remove *all* gravitational influences though?

Gravity in Newtonian terms is no different tyo any other force. When a force is applied to a mass it accelerates (newton's 2nd law F=Ma). The "weight" of a mass then is nothing else other than a measure of the force acting on it. In the absence of any force, an object has no weight, but it still has mass (unless of course the object is moving at the speed of light)

So, while there exists no place in the universe that does not have some gravitational influence (since all points in the universe are affected by the gravity of every mass or object in the universe), the sum vector total of all forces acting an object can be zero (in which case it has no weight).

Have I ever mentioned how much I HATE physics?
Dated a girl a few years back who did this stuff, I had to learn it just to try and keep up
Now I remember how much my brain hurt...

[Stormbringer]

Here's an idea. pi mesons do not react with matter or energy fields. but they rapidly decay to gamma ray photons and other particles that do. so if pi mesons are aimed at a ship (even) with shields and the relativistic velocity is such that the decay time coincides with when the pi mesons are traversing through the ship what happens is the decay to other relativisitic particles within the hull amounts to a nuke going off (inside the ship.) shields are useless, the hull is worthless.

pi mesons are made in quantity when positrons and electrons meet and anihilate. one game; traveller used this principle in a weapon known as the T factor meson cannon.