Topic: OT ~ What's bigger, a Nuke Bomb or an Anti-matter Bomb?

[Dizzy]

1st let me understand antimatter explosions... If you have an equal amount of anti-matter and matter, when they meet, do they blow up, and what kind of yield are we talking... or do they cancel each other out and give out a whimper? How do you get an antimatter explosion and a release of tons of energy?

How much antimatter would one need to make a bigger explosion than the worlds most powerful Hydrogen Bomb, and what is the most antimatter one of our current-tech particle accelerators can hold?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I guess it depends on how much anti-matter, but if you look at the TOS episode Obsession from classic trek, that little bit in the magnetic bottle was enough to RIP away Half the planets atmoshphere. So I would think the ani-matter bomb is a bigger bang.

[KAT J'inn]

Okay . . .  from my days in school for Nuclear Engineering (believe it or not LOL) . . . and due to old age I am certain I will get this wrong . . .


Anti-Matter --- Matter Contact should yield pure energy from the matter with no loss.  Therefore, the amount of energy created should be calculated from    E = MC^2

From that formula you can take the known energy yield of a Hydrogen Bomb and calculate backwards to determine how much matter  (and an equal amount of Anti-Matter) you would need to equal or exceed that yield.

So as to your question as to what is bigger . .  well an anti-matter bomb has the potential to be bigger due to 100% conversion of matter to energy.  However, it depends on the amounts of material used.

[Bob Graham]

Dont they screen lawyers to keep such knowledge away from them?

[762_XC]

Nuclear fission converts a small amount of the matter in the nucleus to energy.

A matter-antimatter interaction converts every particle-antiparticle pairing into energy.

So given equal amounts of material, an antimatter explosion would be much greater, probably by several orders of magnitude.

P.S. I'm more scared about Dizzy having this knowledge.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Dont they screen lawyers to keep such knowledge away from them?

If you are going to play with nuclear power, you had better learn to defend your self I guess. 

[Braxton_RIP]

Okay . . .  from my days in school for Nuclear Engineering (believe it or not LOL) . . . and due to old age I am certain I will get this wrong . . .


Anti-Matter --- Matter Contact should yield pure energy from the matter with no loss.  Therefore, the amount of energy created should be calculated from    E = MC^2

From that formula you can take the know energy yield of a Hydrogen Bomb and calculate backwards to determine how much matter  (and an equal amount of Anti-Matter) you would need to equal or exceed that yield.

So as your question as to what is bigger . .  well an anti-matter bomb has the potential to be bigger due to 100% conversion of matter to energy.  However, it depends on the amounts of material used.

As the resident Physicist, I can say this is almost correct, a few things left out, but close enough.  The "pure energy" per se, would not be energy, but actually a null area, which would be devistating if it came in contact with either matter or antimatter.  The vacuum of space is far from a place with out energy, infact, if you consider that all space has an infinite ammount of energy passing through it, from every light source in the universe, you would have to figure that into the equation for the "explosion" force.

[Hexx]

As others have said given equal -or without having a much larger (like to the xxxxxth power)nuke the winner would be anti matter.
Pretty much 99.9 adinfinitum of what's known about anti matter is (afaik) still theoretical.
The theory works -but it won't really be 100% until it can be tested..and that might take awhile.

EDIT : http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/

Has some answers to questions - please be noting that they claim to have (over 10years) produced
about one billionth of a gram- and the cost for even that has been huge.

[Sirgod]

All, I can say, Is I hope Anti-Matter wins out, as I'd be afraid of what Dizzy could do with It. I somehow doubt, he'll get his hands on the stuff though.

 

Stephen

[Hexx]

Nah AntiMatter would win out, it's a pretty efficient conversion of energy.
Fission is not so efficient, fusion is more but still not that great.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

The real question is what is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?

[Hexx]

The real question is what is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?

<sigh, Feds>
They actually weigh the same Tobin.
And for the next answer
If you dropped them both from the same height the bricks would hit the ground first
(given a non-vacuum )

-And the REAL question is
Why do you want to know?  ???

[KAT J'inn]

So in order of destructive power.   Top Least  Bottem Most . . .



1)  TnT

2)  Atomic Bomb

3)  Nuclear Bomb

4)  Anti-Matter Bomb

5)  Shop Rex at a Macy's Clearance Sale



Okay, I think I got it.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

The real question is what is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?

<sigh, Feds>
They actually weigh the same Tobin.
And for the next answer
If you dropped them both from the same height the bricks would hit the ground first

-And the REAL question is
Why do you want to know?  ???

Spoil sport! I was hoping for some interesting replies before some stick in the mud came along with that response and ruined things.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

So in order of destructive power.   Top Least  Bottem Most . . .



1)  TnT

2)  Atomic Bomb

3)  Nuclear Bomb

4)  Anti-Matter Bomb

5)  Shop Rex at a Macy's Clearance Sale



Okay, I think I got it.

how about a bar full of kitties at last call at a bar?

[Hexx]

The real question is what is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?

<sigh, Feds>
They actually weigh the same Tobin.
And for the next answer
If you dropped them both from the same height the bricks would hit the ground first

-And the REAL question is
Why do you want to know?  ???

Spoil sport! I was hoping for some interesting replies before some stick in the mud came along with that response and ruined things.

Well you could argue about the actually dimensions/scale of the "brick" - I suppose  if you increased the surface area and made it (much) smaller in depth you could (eventually) have the brick fall slower- it would have to be a fairly controlled test though

[el-Karnak]

So in order of destructive power.   Top Least  Bottem Most . . .



1)  TnT

2)  Atomic Bomb

3)  Nuclear Bomb

4)  Anti-Matter Bomb

5)  Shop Rex at a Macy's Clearance Sale



Okay, I think I got it.

6)  Karnak posts.  I use nothing but the finest temporal rift bombs and genesis torpedoes.

[CaptJosh]

You don't get it Karnak. Nothing is more destructive than a Shopasaurus Rex at a sale. NOTHING. Just ask Jinn. He has one, or rather one has him.

[Sirgod]

The real question is what is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?

Actually, Bricks...

Take a gold Brick for example...

 A pound of feathers. Some would say a pound is a pound, but the fact is: Gold is a precious metal and is therefore weighed in the Troy system of measurement. This means that a pound of gold weighs only 12 oz and a pound of feathers weighs 16 oz.

Stephen

[CaptJosh]

Ah, but you neglect to mention that a troy ounce is a larger measurement than a standard ounce.