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So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« on: July 19, 2005, 09:51:40 am »
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 10:01:13 am »
Yeah, there's been enough posturing to get things moving. Saturday 9 am would be cool, but I guess we'll wait until noon.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 02:01:44 pm »
Yeah, there's been enough posturing to get things moving. Saturday 9 am would be cool, but I guess we'll wait until noon.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 02:05:03 pm »
Works for me.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 02:52:17 pm »
Rather wait a week myself as announcing the official start of a server should be done at least 7 days in advance.  Otherwise you might catch some players not ready for the start.  Kitties need to get a strategy pow wow together still for opening moves.  Go with the 30th.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2005, 02:55:13 pm »
Rather wait a week myself as announcing the official start of a server should be done at least 7 days in advance.  Otherwise you might catch some players not ready for the start.  Kitties need to get a strategy pow wow together still for opening moves.  Go with the 30th.

I cannot start the week of the 28, my internet access wil be shaky at best as I am moving

If this does not go live on July 23, it waits 2 weeks minimum.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2005, 02:58:19 pm »
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2005, 02:59:18 pm »
Although I must point out (4 Chuut yesll at me again..oh the hurtful PM's I get) that I'm not a RM
I am (kinda) a player.
Start the 23rd, with a campaign of this length it won't really matter if somepeople aren'te here for the start anyway.
Heck I migh not fly for the first week or so.
(Something about those non-BC-non-CWLP-non-STL ships  just make me feel nauseous)
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2005, 02:59:23 pm »
You hosting this server?  If so would it be wise to do so on such a shaky connection?  Better to wait till you are stable again.  If its not hosted on your equipment shouldn't really matter if we start the 30th.

Anyhow I'd say wait as we are still working out rules stuff.  

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2005, 03:01:20 pm »
You are such a downer dude

Start on the 23rd. Get rid of this "early era" hippie stuff faster.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2005, 03:09:01 pm »
You are such a downer dude

Start on the 23rd. Get rid of this "early era" hippie stuff faster.

Get some early era hair on your nads Hexx  ;)

But definately don't want to be running on an iffy system like Die Hard implies.  I think more time for an official announcement is required as well.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2005, 03:10:23 pm »
When I got roped into RM'ing, they told me it was going to start on the 23rd, so it was released some where.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2005, 03:16:08 pm »


From an extremely selfish perspective, my Eco War window is getting narrow.  The sooner you can start the better for me.  (And really, who matters more than me?)

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2005, 03:21:27 pm »
  If its not hosted on your equipment shouldn't really matter if we start the 30th.



Unless you are volunteering to handle the last minute technical shake out issues and inevitable first week tech glitches then it most certianly does matter that DH has a stable connection the first week of the server.

Chuut you seem to give the impession that servers just majically configure and run themselves.  :rant:
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2005, 03:22:13 pm »
You hosting this server?  If so would it be wise to do so on such a shaky connection?  Better to wait till you are stable again.  If its not hosted on your equipment shouldn't really matter if we start the 30th.

Anyhow I'd say wait as we are still working out rules stuff.  

I'm not hosting it but I'm admining it.  It doesn't start if I do not have reliable internet connection at home.   Period.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2005, 03:25:53 pm »
<sputter>

Umm, who is hosting it?

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2005, 03:27:39 pm »
<sputter>

Umm, who is hosting it?


You are silly. You did order that brand new super expensive server right?
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2005, 03:28:31 pm »
<sputter>

Umm, who is hosting it?


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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2005, 03:32:44 pm »
Well that explains this bill I got from Frey.


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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2005, 04:16:55 pm »
Tis a 30 (or so) day server your Rmness.
The opening strategy will consist of me sitting in general chat crying
that my ship doesn't have 40+ power and 10Ph1's

The server will pick up people as we trundle along. Given the def values and
with all races haveing droners it will come down to who can put the most peeps on the server in the last week or two.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2005, 04:19:25 pm »
the only real problem that i have seen  is the fact that i cant seem to get a gorn to show up in any of the new missions as klingon or rom. every thing else seems ok except for maybe all those D7T in the yard.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2005, 04:22:20 pm »
the only real problem that i have seen  is the fact that i cant seem to get a gorn to show up in any of the new missions as klingon or rom.

With Kroma as the exception, we don't like to cross dress.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2005, 04:44:55 pm »
When I got roped into RM'ing, they told me it was going to start on the 23rd, so it was released some where.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2005, 05:09:07 pm »
LOL at S'Cipio

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2005, 05:11:28 pm »
LOL at S'Cipio

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2005, 05:20:12 pm »
who asked you shorty?

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2005, 05:28:50 pm »
If I actually waited for people to ask me something..
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2005, 05:31:31 pm »
we'd have a lot more peace and quiet... ;D
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2005, 05:52:31 pm »
<sputter>

Umm, who is hosting it?


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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2005, 06:11:35 pm »
Start TOMORROW. Seriously. And let us pick up the players along the way. I mean... for a long ass 4 week server (too long imo)... there is plenty of time to get the ball rolling.

And for the tomorrow start, who was the brilliant server admin who hosted OP servers where only Tuesdays you could change DV's? We could set that up so you cant change the DV's till Saturday.

That'd be great...

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2005, 06:20:05 pm »
No Not tomorrow... I need time to get my computer set up. I won't even have a sound card until tuesday...
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2005, 06:34:26 pm »
Just letting people know, my holidays finish this week, I am back at uni next week. Was hoping the server would start and we'd get all the bugs out by the 23rd. The first few weeks of semester are usually fairly light on, however I will still have classes and will still be around, just not quite as much. Having said that though, if its not ready to go then we should hold off, although as far as I can see, its 95% ready. The next recompile of the missions should fix up the remaining mission issues (assuming we dont find anymore) which I'm doing today.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2005, 07:04:23 pm »
DH, if you're ready, light this candle. It may be an inconvenience to some, but for the rest of us, I'd say we've gone too long without a server.

Let's get this show on the road....

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2005, 08:32:48 pm »
23rd sounds good...shoot, no server is ever really ready.  What the heck...

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2005, 08:45:47 pm »
23rd is good. No sooner, no later.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2005, 09:26:35 pm »
DH, if you're ready, light this candle. It may be an inconvenience to some, but for the rest of us, I'd say we've gone too long without a server.

Let's get this show on the road....

I agree with a priest...?  :o

But, on the other hand, the problems with the missions aren't all ironed out yet, that could create huge headaches for all the admin, players and especially the RMs!  8)
We all seen what happens when you get impatient, lauch a server "as is" and then players start bitching by the dozen about "this ship is broke" that mission doesn't work right", etc, etc, etc.
If Tracey can get the missions fixed with her new patch or whatever, then, we can start on the 23rd, NP. But, if there are STILL bugs, we need to squash them first, or the whole community will suffer the consequenses and another campaign could fall flat because of something that could have been fixed, but we didn't want to wait... ;)
Been there, done that, it sucked...
When we launch is all about the same to me, I'm ready anytime...but, let's wait if we HAVE to in order to get a smoother, more enjoyable campaign for everyone, heh?  ;D
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2005, 09:31:48 pm »
I fully agree with that, LK. If we are ready for launch on Saturday, sure. Let's go for it. But let's not rush things if there are bugs to be fixed to keep people from being totally turned off from Dynaverse play.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2005, 10:42:16 pm »
  If its not hosted on your equipment shouldn't really matter if we start the 30th.



Unless you are volunteering to handle the last minute technical shake out issues and inevitable first week tech glitches then it most certianly does matter that DH has a stable connection the first week of the server.

Chuut you seem to give the impession that servers just majically configure and run themselves.  :rant:

I was just concerned about DH hosting the server on shaky equipment whether it be the first second third or fourth week of the server preferring to wait until he was stabilized.  I took his meaning of shaky to mean with intermittent interruptions but basically allowing for him to be on at least a considerable part of the day, thus being able to manage major problems without too much delay.  This wouldn't be ideal but would be managable perhaps, the server constantly burping and/or being down and reset would not be.  Sorry if I gave the impression that Die Hard didn't provide invaluable aspects of server maintenance, but it was just that I didn't see a "shaky" conection as preventing him from handling these issues without extensive delays.  Hope that clarifies things and puts any thoughts of my not appreciating Die Hard's efforts to rest.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2005, 09:17:49 am »
DH, if you're ready, light this candle. It may be an inconvenience to some, but for the rest of us, I'd say we've gone too long without a server.

Let's get this show on the road....

I agree with a priest...?  :o

But, on the other hand, the problems with the missions aren't all ironed out yet, that could create huge headaches for all the admin, players and especially the RMs!  8)
We all seen what happens when you get impatient, lauch a server "as is" and then players start bitching by the dozen about "this ship is broke" that mission doesn't work right", etc, etc, etc.
If Tracey can get the missions fixed with her new patch or whatever, then, we can start on the 23rd, NP. But, if there are STILL bugs, we need to squash them first, or the whole community will suffer the consequenses and another campaign could fall flat because of something that could have been fixed, but we didn't want to wait... ;)
Been there, done that, it sucked...
When we launch is all about the same to me, I'm ready anytime...but, let's wait if we HAVE to in order to get a smoother, more enjoyable campaign for everyone, heh?  ;D

TG has to go to school next week so our window of bug fixing is pretty much over.   If we find a critical bug in the missions, we can patch while running.

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2005, 12:17:27 pm »
DH, if you're ready, light this candle. It may be an inconvenience to some, but for the rest of us, I'd say we've gone too long without a server.

Let's get this show on the road....

I agree with a priest...?  :o

But, on the other hand, the problems with the missions aren't all ironed out yet, that could create huge headaches for all the admin, players and especially the RMs!  8)
We all seen what happens when you get impatient, lauch a server "as is" and then players start bitching by the dozen about "this ship is broke" that mission doesn't work right", etc, etc, etc.
If Tracey can get the missions fixed with her new patch or whatever, then, we can start on the 23rd, NP. But, if there are STILL bugs, we need to squash them first, or the whole community will suffer the consequenses and another campaign could fall flat because of something that could have been fixed, but we didn't want to wait... ;)
Been there, done that, it sucked...
When we launch is all about the same to me, I'm ready anytime...but, let's wait if we HAVE to in order to get a smoother, more enjoyable campaign for everyone, heh?  ;D

TG has to go to school next week so our window of bug fixing is pretty much over.   If we find a critical bug in the missions, we can patch while running.

IMPORTANT.   we will be doing a 2263 test tonight.  I know the ships are painful, but we need to see if the setting work right in this era

Is the CA out then?

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2005, 04:18:59 pm »
No, but the POL+ is :)
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2005, 04:30:51 pm »
No, but the POL+ is :)

Actually it's not
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2005, 06:08:39 pm »
No, but the POL+ is :)

You are going to fly the "+" version? Friggin cheeser.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2005, 06:09:27 pm »
No, but the POL+ is :)

Actually it's not

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2005, 06:23:15 pm »
Please tell me the FF is out.
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2005, 10:01:35 pm »
I think the EFF is out...  ;D

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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2005, 11:08:09 pm »
Please tell me the FF is out.

Sky, I have you assigned to a POL.  Good luck!
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Re: So what is stopping us from starting on July 23?
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2005, 12:47:37 am »
Please tell me the FF is out.

Sky, I have you assigned to a POL. Good luck!

Thanks. It sure as heck beats your shuttle. :)
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