Topic: Aland, Forssa and Kelkka class PTs NOW out for SFC 2 (Read 4369 times)

Mackie · « **on:** July 14, 2005, 04:40:26 pm »

i thought id make a new thread for not to get them all lost in the furious replying of the WIP thread below , hope yall dont mind

U.S.S. Aland PT - 442

link to LWO
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=209
link to SFC 2 version
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=212

U.S.S. Forssa PT - 443

link to LWO
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=211
link to SFC 2 version
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=213

U.S.S. Kelkka (sled

) PT - 441

link to LWO
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=210
link to SFC 2 version
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=214

and then all of them in comparison to the Firestorm class they mostly were made of and a Connie-A. i dont know if the scales are right though(had to leave them partially visible so that the PT's wouldnt look like dots ;p)

and so, credits go out to Wicked Zombie and Lord Schtupp

S33K100 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2005, 06:10:41 pm »

They look really cool dude, I really like the Aland (you know the islands are Swedish, not Finnish, they're only part of Finland cause of a historical accident, Finland 'inherited' them from Russia when they got independence) it doesn't actually look like a kitbash, probably cause you made it into the 'traditional' shape, but it looks like an actual serious ship design. I'm not too knowledgable about the other 2 names, I assume they're also Finland-related. Are you gonna make anything smaller than the Forssa?

Mackie, once they're converted to .MOD would you mind if I made TMP versions with WZ's Connie-Refit?

Mackie · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2005, 06:19:51 pm »

Quote from: S33K100 on July 14, 2005, 06:10:41 pm

They look really cool dude, I really like the Aland (you know the islands are Swedish, not Finnish, they're only part of Finland cause of a historical accident, Finland 'inherited' them from Russia when they got independence) it doesn't actually look like a kitbash, probably cause you made it into the 'traditional' shape, but it looks like an actual serious ship design. I'm not too knowledgable about the other 2 names, I assume they're also Finland-related. Are you gonna make anything smaller than the Forssa?

Mackie, once they're converted to .MOD would you mind if I made TMP versions with WZ's Connie-Refit?

thank thank you

I know about Aland (Ahvenanmaa by real name, but i stayed with the name everyone else knows since its shorter) ... I named the ship after the place because 1. its small 2. its annoying . hence Aland.

I sometimes tend to name things in finnish because... well... I am a Finn

as for the two other ships; Forssa is a city in finland and Kelkka literally means 'a sled' because it looks like a sled

[edit i MIGHT make something smaller i just need to think of something plausible]

anyhow i was considering making refits to some of them my self already but yeah go ahead if you like. then there well be two versions i quess

S33K100 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2005, 06:45:45 pm »

Cool, thanks for the permission dude, I just need them in .MOD now...

P.S.: Aland is the proper name, the islands are monolingually Swedish and they call it Aland, actually they put a little circle thingy over the 'A' which make it pronounced 'oh-land' but anyway. Ahvenanmaa is the Finnish version of the name, cause it's technically a part of Finland now, though they have humungous autonomy cause the locals almost rebelled in the 1920s demanding their 'return' to Sweden, them being Swedes and all.

I dunno how we English manage to know either version of the name, Swedish or Finish as we have a habit of butchering European location names, like 'Florence' should be Firenze, or 'Copenhagen' which should be København, or the one I find the most ludicrous, Livorno, a port in Italy is called 'Leghorn' in English, I mean WTF?

Mackie · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:02:36 pm »

Quote from: S33K100 on July 14, 2005, 06:45:45 pm

Cool, thanks for the permission dude, I just need them in .MOD now...

P.S.: Aland is the proper name, the islands are monolingually Swedish and they call it Aland, actually they put a little circle thingy over the 'A' which make it pronounced 'oh-land' but anyway. Ahvenanmaa is the Finnish version of the name, cause it's technically a part of Finland now, though they have humungous autonomy cause the locals almost rebelled in the 1920s demanding their 'return' to Sweden, them being Swedes and all.

I dunno how we English manage to know either version of the name, Swedish or Finish as we have a habit of butchering European location names, like 'Florence' should be Firenze, or 'Copenhagen' which should be København, or the one I find the most ludicrous, Livorno, a port in Italy is called 'Leghorn' in English, I mean WTF?

fine fine, but they still suck. I despise them islands. and since we happen to 0wn Ahvenanmaa (swedish O = Å) we get to decide the name so NAH!

(once i rule finland i plan to stuff the islands with... "undesirable portions of the populace" ..and selling the islands back to Swedes so we could buy back Karelia >:}} )
(and yes they DO talk Finnish as well.. with a little bit of encouragement. ie when buying a hamburger from a kiosk, usually grabbing the sniveling twit behind the desk by the throat usually works)

Britts pretty much 0wned the world during the height of British Empire so they named the placed the way they could understand them and remember as :p

anywho back to the issue, theyll be in mods as soon as I can get Atheorhaven back to work... NOW WHERES MY WHACKING STICK! WORK!

atheorhaven · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:20:49 pm »

Downloaded... heard a whip or something.

Converting over next couple of days..

Mackie · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:30:39 pm »

Quote from: atheorhaven on July 14, 2005, 09:20:49 pm

Downloaded... heard a whip or something.

Converting over next couple of days..

thats a good modder. NOW BACK TO WORK! >:}}

Kana · « **Reply #7 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:55:22 pm »

All look great...can't wait for MOD files...

Kana

E_Look · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2005, 01:40:08 pm »

They look beautiful!

Mackie · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2005, 04:30:09 pm »

Quote from: S33K100 on July 14, 2005, 06:10:41 pm

*snip*
Mackie, once they're converted to .MOD would you mind if I made TMP versions with WZ's Connie-Refit?

FYI I tried making refits and they didnt go well, so i quess its upto you then. if theyre good enough

S33K100 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2005, 06:38:22 pm »

It shouldn't be a prob Mackie, I've done similar stuff before, plus I've had to do TMP textures for the Firestorm's catamarans for a TMP NX-01 style ship I'm making, it's really just matter of if the bridge module from the refit will fit on such a small ship.

Sapharite · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2005, 06:15:45 am »

Well nice ships... I wonder why there is now such trend for TOS babes

Dizzy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2005, 01:18:33 pm »

atheorhaven · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2005, 02:22:25 pm »

I have them converted to MOD, but I have to HP/DP them and color correct the textures coming over from PCX. But here's their current state.. (they *could* currently fly in SFC, but the colors would be off):

(edit: colors are now corrected, reconverted using another program, and they're all good now)..

Mackie · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2005, 03:47:26 pm »

yeah thanks but the colours DO look really f*cking weird

atheorhaven · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2005, 03:53:11 pm »

Quote from: Mackie on July 16, 2005, 03:47:26 pm

yeah thanks but the colours DO look really f*cking weird

no problem, as mentioned, that's fixed...

Mackie · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2005, 03:58:02 pm »

Quote from: atheorhaven on July 16, 2005, 03:53:11 pm

Quote from: Mackie on July 16, 2005, 03:47:26 pm
yeah thanks but the colours DO look really f*cking weird

no problem, as mentioned, that's fixed...

yeah yeah np i just thought itwas funny

atheorhaven · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2005, 05:21:13 pm »

Okay, they're HP/DP'ed now... just need to get a list of credits for each, and they're good to go.

Mackie, want to email me a list of what came from where and who so I can build the credits file?

Mackie · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2005, 05:29:21 pm »

just add wickedzombie (almost everything) and lord schtupp (deflectors on forssa and phasers on all ships) for parts and textures and me for the bash, same applies to each of the ships

gmail the ships to me when u done k?

atheorhaven · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2005, 05:51:08 pm »

Quote from: Mackie on July 16, 2005, 05:29:21 pm

just add wickedzombie (almost everything) and lord schtupp (deflectors on forssa and phasers on all ships) for parts and textures and me for the bash, same applies to each of the ships
gmail the ships to me when u done k?

Alrighty, done and done... they're complete.

Check your Gmail..

Mackie · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2005, 06:47:30 pm »

and thanks again alec, i just put up the SFC 2 versions

S33K100 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2005, 09:59:31 pm »

Hey Mackie - what do you think of the TMP version of the Åland?

I called it the USS Izhora, I chose the name to see if you'd recognise it, it's Finnic, but not Finnish. It only took about 20mins, I managed to nick the 'TMP style' textures on the hull and bridge from another project I'm working on using the Avenger catamarans amongst other bits'n'pieces to make a TMP NX-01.

If you and WZ agree to release I'll send it to RogueNine and do the other 2 aswell.

Mackie · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:04:30 pm »

that is SO cool

the names all the same for me aka doesnt matter really ,when you get it done for sfc send it to themackie@gmail.com and ill put it up

[edit]
nevermind i apparently cant read , go ahead doing the other two too

S33K100 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:21:47 pm »

Thanks for the complements, unfortunately I can't send it in 3DS or LWO as I don't have either program, I work directly in .MOD format using the M6 program, every one of my kitbashes is done using it. I'll send you the bare basic .MOD file now, but it will lack a break model, M6 doesn't like _brk.mods, if you can get someone to make a _brk.mod for it then I'll send it right over.

Oh and don't worry about the Kellka and Forssa, I'll do up TMP versions of them too, but it'll have to be tommorrow as it's 04:10 here.

P.S. the name Izhora is the Izhoran word for their land, in Finnish it's called Inkeri, in Swedish - Ingermanland and in English and Latin - Ingria. It's now the area around Sankt Peterburg in Russia. Back during the purges Stalin nearly wiped out the Izhorans. They're a Finnic people very closely related to the Karelians and Estonians (living directly between the two peoples) but now there are only about 300 left at the last census and all of those are elderly so they'll be extinct in a decade or so.

Mackie · « **Reply #24 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:30:57 pm »

Quote from: S33K100 on July 16, 2005, 10:21:47 pm

Thanks for the complements, unfortunately I can't send it in 3DS or LWO as I don't have either program, I work directly in .MOD format using the M6 program, every one of my kitbashes is done using it. I'll send you the bare basic .MOD file now, but it will lack a break model, M6 doesn't like _brk.mods, if you can get someone to make a _brk.mod for it then I'll send it right over.

Oh and don't worry about the Kellka and Forssa, I'll do up TMP versions of them too, but it'll have to be tommorrow as it's 04:10 here.

P.S. the name Izhora is the Izhoran word for their land, in Finnish it's called Inkeri, in Swedish - Ingermanland and in English and Latin - Ingria. It's now the area around Sankt Peterburg in Russia. Back during the purges Stalin nearly wiped out the Izhorans. They're a Finnic people very closely related to the Karelians and Estonians (living directly between the two peoples) but now there are only about 300 left at the last census and all of those are elderly so they'll be extinct in a decade or so.

ah np just read the updated message above , you can do what you want with the other two too since you did so good work with Aland class

I suppose you can send em to me whenever you think youve done what you can, ill take it from there and get someone (atheorhaven most likely :p) to convert them

as for the name... very touching. this street where i reside on, nearly all the old people living here are Izhoran refugees, i have a couple in my family too.. (no i didnt know what, Izhora, ment until you told). ;/
and as far as I know Izhorans are ABOUT the same racial stock as every other Finn although they have bit more baltic blood in them, just as side note and a thought about them

S33K100 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:41:05 pm »

Sorry to make another reply but I tried mailing to your gmail address and got a failiure notice, is your inbox full or something? Cause I never usually have that problem. I tried a second time, same response. Anyway, check it out cause I'm just sitting here on the model, waiting to send it to you.

Do you have another address I could try?

Mackie · « **Reply #26 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:42:39 pm »

Quote from: S33K100 on July 16, 2005, 10:41:05 pm

Sorry to make another reply but I tried mailing to your gmail address and got a failiure notice, is your inbox full or something? Cause I never usually have that problem. I tried a second time, same response. Anyway, check it out cause I'm just sitting here on the model, waiting to send it to you.

Do you have another address I could try?

uhhuh i dont know, im going to empty my box right now , just a moment

Mackie · « **Reply #27 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:44:50 pm »

ok
themackie@gmail.com
the box aint even close to full...

if you had MSN this would be alot easier you know

S33K100 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:50:02 pm »

My old hotmail address - bungle485@hotmail.com, I've signed into MSN, add me on that.

USS Mariner · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2005, 06:46:07 pm »

PTs are tasty. And WZ's Lexxy nacelles look more at home on the Izhora.

And Mackie, could you please be a little neater with yer bashes next time? Makes retexturing easier.

Marauth, I just realized about your asking me about the old Monitor retextures and the word files. Grab me on MSN and I can send in through that, and try and walk you through it or explain stuff. We three can have a little chat going or whatever.

I'll be coming out with a TOS-retex of this, with my own, detailed textures. I hope you all like 24-bit glows, because I live on them.

Mackie · « **Reply #30 on:** July 17, 2005, 08:09:53 pm »

Quote from: Mariner Class on July 17, 2005, 06:46:07 pm

PTs are tasty. And WZ's Lexxy nacelles look more at home on the Izhora.

And Mackie, could you please be a little neater with yer bashes next time? Makes retexturing easier.

Marauth, I just realized about your asking me about the old Monitor retextures and the word files. Grab me on MSN and I can send in through that, and try and walk you through it or explain stuff. We three can have a little chat going or whatever.

I'll be coming out with a TOS-retex of this, with my own, detailed textures. I hope you all like 24-bit glows, because I live on them.

I tried I tried it honestly wasnt easy trying not to mess up the mesh / textures more than they already are ;p

USS Mariner · « **Reply #31 on:** July 17, 2005, 08:45:23 pm »

That's why I'm remapping and reworking the mesh. Fageddiboutit.

Mackie · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2005, 08:56:44 pm »

Quote from: Mariner Class on July 17, 2005, 08:45:23 pm

That's why I'm remapping and reworking the mesh. Fageddiboutit.

k right right

Mackie · « **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2005, 09:16:13 am »

FYI s33k and mariner, is gonna take a bit to get out the tmp versions cause im taking my time to do other RL shiz atm. also cause i need to convert both of your stuff to lwo and then combine mariners cleaned up meshes with what s33k did to get out the perfect tmp versions

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