Topic: OT - News that No One in USA cares about... (Read 3164 times)

el-Karnak · « **on:** July 13, 2005, 01:59:15 pm »

Not that anyone in Atlanta cares. It's always Bulldogs this and YellowJackets that and Braves this and Braves that and sometime it's Vick, Vick, Vick, Vick...blah, blah, blah, blah...

but NHL Hockey is back!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/sportsstory.asp?story_id=130274

Now, I can go see some hockey fights.

BTW, that stupid space shuttle won't start up. Somebody should give it a kick and then go give it a big push. I can't believe I'm paying for this hunk of junk. I want my US tax money back. We should have bought the Millenium Falcon instead.

Hexx · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:10:52 pm »

The dumb thing is- from the little I've seen- it's a bit worse of a deal for the players than what was on the table a year ago.

Green · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:44:19 pm »

Wonder if Tampa will win the lottery for the first draft?

Age · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:50:28 pm »

It s to bad for major juniors up here they were doing good because of the lock out and they get paid next to nothing.

They forgot to align the fusion coils with the generators Lady.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2005, 04:14:06 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on July 13, 2005, 02:10:52 pm

The dumb thing is- from the little I've seen- it's a bit worse of a deal for the players than what was on the table a year ago.

It does seem that way, but they finally figured out that part of something is better than nothing.

They have to put a salary cap in place or more than one team is going to go under.

Most teams can't afford to raise ticket prices and can't afford to pay 2-5 guys 6-10 mill each a year, let alone one guy (like when Jgar got 1/3 of the Penguins $30 million payroll)

And if they are not doing revenue sharing, they better start.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2005, 04:34:06 pm »

I'm Canadian and I don't care either. They should never have let it come to all this and I have been able to get by quite nicely without any NHL shinny for the last year and expect to continue to do so.

Hexx · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2005, 05:30:47 pm »

Quote from: FPF-TobinDax on July 13, 2005, 04:34:06 pm

I'm Canadian and I don't care either. They should never have let it come to all this and I have been able to get by quite nicely without any NHL shinny for the last year and expect to continue to do so.

Yeah if I had to watch yer home town team play I'd be content to pretend hockey didn't exist either...

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2005, 06:21:07 pm »

er, um, my home town does not have an NHL franchise, soooooooo.....

LordSaxon · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2005, 06:42:38 pm »

Thanks for the tip! Surprised I didnt see this in the papers, but then again I was on vacation and ,well, I root for the Bolts!
Damn I miss my hockey....
KBF LordSaxon

Age · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:45:39 pm »

Quote from: FPF-TobinDax on July 13, 2005, 06:21:07 pm

er, um, my home town does not have an NHL franchise, soooooooo.....

It has farm team I believe oh well you know what this means in the fall less ppl playing on the Dyna if that isn't bad enough.

GDA-Agave · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:46:21 pm »

GOOD LORD MAN!! YOU CAN'T TALK HOCKEY! WE'RE ONLY HALF WAY THROUGH BASEBALL SEASON!!

GO BRAVES!!

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:33:26 pm »

Why talk? Just look....

Age · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:42:38 pm »

That would be go habs go oh another Trish Status pic seen lots of those over at STGs.

el-Karnak · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2005, 10:30:41 pm »

Quote from: GDA-Agave on July 13, 2005, 07:46:21 pm

GOOD LORD MAN!! YOU CAN'T TALK HOCKEY! WE'RE ONLY HALF WAY THROUGH BASEBALL SEASON!!

GO BRAVES!!

Yeah, yeah, wake me up when the Braves win the NLCS. Penant races are so anti-climatic and deja-vu in GA.

Until then...we do Hockey!! I gotta go find the BraveHeart guy that alway goes to the Thrasher games, and give him is blue and yellow facepaint back.

YEAHH!!! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!! YYYEEEAAHHH!!! AAAAAAARRRRRRR!!! YEAAAHHHH!!!!!

Rolling · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2005, 06:06:34 am »

Vick who?

C-Los · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:00:15 am »

Yep Ms. Rolling...did it again, my sides are hurting.....

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2005, 01:55:34 pm »

ShadowLord · « **Reply #17 on:** July 14, 2005, 02:15:35 pm »

Hey I live in Canada and I dont care-- does that make me "uncanadian?" NO __ it makes me a Hockey dad

lets see
13 Year old son -- played this last winter (as a goalie) in
12 House league game
16 secect teams games
2 tournies (6 more games)
approx 18 practices

And instead of being a normal kid and enjoying summer -- has now joined a
summer 3on3 hockey league
10 more games (ongoing) with no practice

Do I miss NHL? Nope -- Do i miss Beer YEP ..
Now thats a Canuck !!!
ShadowLord

el-Karnak · « **Reply #18 on:** July 14, 2005, 03:15:58 pm »

Speaking of un-Canadian-like Canucks: I missed Don Cherry. Is he still with Hockey Night in Canada show? Or, did his big mouth get him in too much trouble again?

Age · « **Reply #19 on:** July 14, 2005, 03:59:20 pm »

It depends on his contract as it was up for renewal but as for as i know it wasn't going to get renewed.It would all depend on the fans who like Grapes and if they wrote or e-mailed CBC sports of course Ron Mclean his side kick is ok.Then agian my interset in hockey has gone down hill since 94 after we lost to the Rangers and Montreal hasn't won it since 93 having the world record on the most wins of team sports it is no the Yankees that hold it.I want Montreal to get back as it was something to feel good about and to bring our cup home.It is just the NHL is now a US league and if there was an alternative up here others would watch it becuase money has taken the sport out of it. and oh leau beau on this.

el-Karnak · « **Reply #20 on:** July 14, 2005, 05:25:57 pm »

The new CBA is supposed to have one of the best Revenue sharing deals of all the major sports and the Canadian dollar is back to where it should be now that Canada's budget is balanced and staying balanced; so, small-market Canadian teams should be able to operate in a business env. that has not be around since the 1980s. Maybe, a Canadian team is poised to make a Stanley Cup come-back.

I think this is where the players really mis-calculated. Not only were they trying to win a war against Billionaire owners while they were only millionaires, but Bettman was being cheered in cities like Edmonton for going for an Hard Cap. So, the Canadian hockey fans really did not back the players this time around. Big mistake to cross them.

Dfly · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:18:15 pm »

I did not back the players, but I also will not back the owners. WHY? well that part is easy. The players demanded more money in their contracts, and the owners SIGNED those contracts. Only team to actually turn down players who arbitrated and won (they did it twice) was Boston. KOODOS for Boston. And yes Boston is American and I am Canadian.

IMO, the owners and the players both messed up the whole system, all for the bottom dollar. Used to be able to go to a game and afford to sit near the redline. Now, if there is a redline, I need to remorgage the house to go.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:45:44 pm »

No KOODOS for Boston. Who do you think got around the cap on rookie salaries by giving them huge signing bonuses, thus driving up costs. Think Joe Thornton. Way to go Harry!

Kruk · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:12:20 pm »

Quote from: Darth DeathFly on July 14, 2005, 07:18:15 pm

I did not back the players, but I also will not back the owners. WHY? well that part is easy. The players demanded more money in their contracts, and the owners SIGNED those contracts. Only team to actually turn down players who arbitrated and won (they did it twice) was Boston. KOODOS for Boston. And yes Boston is American and I am Canadian.

IMO, the owners and the players both messed up the whole system, all for the bottom dollar. Used to be able to go to a game and afford to sit near the redline. Now, if there is a redline, I need to remorgage the house to go.

Boston, hmmm like Tobin said

Think Ottawa Senators with Yashin a few years back. As much as I hate the sens, kudos to them back then.

Hexx · « **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:17:06 pm »

Ottawa response to Yashin was becaause way back with the fiasco concerning Daigle.
(Which was a contributing factor to many of the higher salaries seen later)
They did weel with Yashin- but it was from bitter experience.

Dfly · « **Reply #25 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:21:55 pm »

Still I like the fact that there are(were) a few rare teams that would look at the costs, like Ottawa.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #26 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:37:16 pm »

New Jersey has done well producing cup victories while keeping the purse strings pretty tight.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #27 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:45:30 pm »

The only way to keep the salaries and ticket prices under control is for the fans to stop paying so much to watch the games and wear the jerseys. It is a simple matter of supply and demand, if the fans really were unhappy with prices they can always watch local leagues until the NHL (or other major sporting league) is hurt enough to alter their behavior.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #28 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:48:32 pm »

Quote from: KAT Chuut-Ritt on July 14, 2005, 08:45:30 pm

The only way to keep the salaries and ticket prices under control is for the fans to stop paying so much to watch the games and wear the jerseys. It is a simple matter of supply and demand, if the fans really were unhappy with prices they can always watch local leagues until the NHL (or other major sporting league) is hurt enough to alter their behavior.

Hexx · « **Reply #29 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:52:08 pm »

Actually that's (to a degree) a false assumption
The Problem is -markets like Toronto, NY, etc tend to sell most of their seating to corporate groups.
The corporations use them as perks/ write offs/ etc so don't really care how much the tickets cost.
Although very few (if any) of the owners will say it they would actually prefer if most of their capacity was filled
with corporate boxes.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #30 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:55:30 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on July 14, 2005, 08:52:08 pm

Actually that's (to a degree) a false assumption
The Problem is -markets like Toronto, NY, etc tend to sell most of their seating to corporate groups.
The corporations use them as perks/ write offs/ etc so don't really care how much the tickets cost.
Although very few (if any) of the owners will say it they would actually prefer if most of their capacity was filled
with corporate boxes.

Corporations don't buy a lot of jesreys and posters and such. That is where teams make most of their money. Other thing is TV revenues which come from the average guy watching the advertisements.

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