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Offline Jack Morris

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European Intel offices raided by EU
« on: July 12, 2005, 09:21:29 am »
Looks like the lawsuit by AMD is no joke!

http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsmb/050712/eba12d17682543e4a6f4fb4783ff7873.html?.v=1

Then again, if Intel is using bad tactics to strongarm the market and I was a competitor obeying the laws I would be pissed off and using every legal resource to bring Intel to light too!

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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2005, 10:48:43 am »
Aw shucks, Jack!  You had me thinking it was some cloak and dagger operation!

Still, this, while totally fascinating, sounds pretty scary... looks like the PC CPU world is going to get shaken a bit...

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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 06:05:07 pm »
Wowzers.  Of course if they really wanted to break up a monopoly with strong arm tactics, they'd be focusing more on Microsoft.  I mean what other company can create a console that loses money 3 years running before it even begins to turn a marginal profit...most companies would have bankrupted on what Xbox had going on...but with Microsoft backing...

And finally it's turning a profit (supposedly)...and they are going to put out it's next generation first probably, before the others, but with no backwards compatibility!!!!  Talk about trying to kill one's business...especially when one considers the other two are BOTH supposedly going to have backwards compatibility (makes it so that there are an instant selection of games in a very wide category for the system).

Not the most brilliant plan unless one just wants to basically funnel money into something, and then basically play unfair to all the other competitors.

Then there's a whole slew of other items, such as MS trying to strongarm Intel and AMD both to incorporate their security items in past dealings so that they can 'subdue' the piracy from the chips themselves...though I have this impression that now MS is backing away from that idea that they were pushing so strongly.

I think AMD is doing fine against Intel myself.  AMD is basically what you get for the most bang for your buck...Intel is what you get if you want a more durable processor that won't die out on you within five years.  I've seen a LOT of AMDs out there recently on the lower and midgrade computers.
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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 07:44:27 pm »
Do AMDs really burn out faster than Intels?  I'd suspect there hasn't been enough years passed yet to make a definitive judgment.

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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2005, 08:30:20 pm »
They tend to run a bit hotter.

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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 08:42:34 pm »
Mostly it's accepted that they'll last a shorter time period.  It's part of the reason why typically you pay less for getting more.  That said, Intels are burning hotter now then they have in the past, but they still seem to be lasting a bit longer in general.  Perhaps it has to do with how people try to configure their processors, and those that use AMD's are more prone to do certain things with them?
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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2005, 09:44:51 pm »
... you mean screw with the clock multiplier, etc.?  Yeah, I've heard that young'uns like y'all do like to o'clock.  Me?  I'm an oldster- an Athlon 64 at ANY speed is fast enough... or even Athlon XPs!

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Re: European Intel offices raided by EU
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2005, 04:57:34 am »
No, even without overclocking AMD's just run hotter. I remember reading the technical mumbo jumbo in PC Magazine a few months back, but I don't remember the exact reasons off-hand.

Even the newer Intel processors, like the moble M series, run significantly cooler than the equivalent AMD processor.

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