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Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« on: July 07, 2005, 12:16:18 pm »
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Arad on everything comic-to-film
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Our buds at IESB sat down with the big man of Marvel, Avi Arad, today, and chatted for 40 odd minutes about what's going on in the incessantly busy comic-to-film world.

The Fantastic Four 2
Arad confirmed that all the cast are signed for a sequel, and that he likes the idea of bringing The Puppet Master in as the rogue for the next bout. "Puppet Master's a great character", he says "Don't we all wish we had this power - especially when we are mad at someone". Arad confirmed that Kerry Washington's character Alicia Masters will have a bigger role to play in future instalments. "It's not a big role in this one, but it's establishing her".

The Silver Surfer
"I think you're going to see a very interesting movie about the man who fell to earth kind-of-a-thing", says Arad. "It has biblical elements to it about who we are to him, what is he to us. We're suspicious when someone like that arrives here".

X-Men 3
That online script that was reviewed, says Arad, was something "verbally passed on. It wasn't even a script". Arad says he loves all his babies, but "rarely do I say this is the best script of them all". Arad says the script is getting better day by day, and "you re-write scenes while you're in production". He adds, "I tell you what really pisses me off about this stuff - is the ignorance to the comics, because if you know the comics at all, OK, lot of our leaders of the X-Men died and came back in one form or another".

Arad hints that Patrick Stewart's character, Xavier, may die in the movie. "He died [in the comic]. One of the most famous panels in the comic was his funeral. They all die and come back. We don't kill anyone just for the hell of it - [only] if it works for the story".

Onto casting and Arad confirmed that Maggie Grace ["Lost"] is out as Kitty Pryde, hinting that it had something to do with her TV schedule. So when do we hear who's replacing her? "Tuesday", he says. As for who is playing Angel, Arad says Mike Vogel was up for it - but his schedule clashed. "He decided to go with the Poseidon Adventure". And what happened to Alan Cumming, why isn't he back as Nightcrawler? "This film has like ten new mutants, and some of them are like mind-f*cking characters", says Arad. "We have to move on. In our story bringing someone [in] who is not from the immediate leadership does not serve the story". Arad says there would just be no screentime for Cumming.

Third "X-Men" spin-off
Arad says he hasn't heard what that rumoured third "X-Men" spin-off - after "Wolverine" and "Magneto" - is. "I really don't know anything about it", he says, of the film that's apparently being penned by Zak Penn. "[So] I really cannot comment on it".

Spider-Man 3
Arad says there may be 4 villains in the next "Spider-Man" sequel. "Maybe five", he jokingly adds. "Obviously I cannot tell you, but I can tell you that we're on our way to the biggest of the three". What about the rumours that Tobey Maguire wants out as Spiderman and that Jake Gyllenhaal might be bought in to replace him for number 4? "It's all too premature", says Arad, "we have to get to May 2007 [first]".

"Spider-Man" spin-off's
Arad says he's urging Marvel to do film spin-off's for a couple of the characters from the "Spider-Man" series. It sounds like he could be keen on giving the villains - Hobgoblin maybe? - their own show.

Hulk 2
Yup, it's still happening, says Arad. "I can't wait to do Hulk 2. In my opinion, [it'll] be huge because people dissapointed with it's box office I guess, in today's landscape, would be ecstatic with it's box office. The end of the [first] movie set the stage to do the other Hulk - a lighter version of Hulk", he says. "Diet Hulk". Arad says he's looking forward to "getting closer to the Hulk. The beast. To see the primal naive part...because Banner is complicated, Hulk is not, and it's hard to get that close to him with CG". Arad suggests that the next Hulk might be a comination of a guy in a suit and CGI, so "that you can really feel humanity".

The Punisher 2
The script is being re-written as we speak, says Arad, but "will shoot this year".

For more from Avi, including the latest on "Iron Fist", "Luke Cage", and "Black Widow" - go to IESB.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2005, 02:50:05 pm »

I'm excited to see that they will be doing a second Punisher.   I didn't really expect that, since it didn't seem that the first one made all that much of a splash at the box office.  But I enjoyed it.  I loved the way they worked scenes from several of the different comic series era's into the movie.  (The popsicle torture, Frank's neighbors, The Russian.  Too bad Frank didn't get to suffocate The Russian by dropping a fat guy on him.   ;)  )

Hopefully, the second will do much better.   A first Punisher movie is limited in that you almost have to show his origin,  with him going off the edge after the death of his family.  That sort of makes it little more than another revenge flick, and hard to satand out above the crowd since there are already tons of those.  Now they can get past that.

Hopefully, we'll get to see someone bring Jigsaw to life.   ;D  (Keeps fingers crossed for Gary Oldman......)

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2005, 03:51:24 pm »
Man Jigsaw would rock the house. It's a shame he was never in Either of the movies.

BTW, Isn't the Russian now a Cyborg type guy now? Haven't kept up with the Book in along time.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2005, 04:01:27 pm »
Man Jigsaw would rock the house. It's a shame he was never in Either of the movies.

BTW, Isn't the Russian now a Cyborg type guy now? Haven't kept up with the Book in along time.

Stephen

Hee hee.

A cyborg with extra-large hooters.  (An unavoidable side-effect of the hormones needed to keep his flesh portions "alive".)

As a joke, using his typical sense of humor, he decided to start wearing a T-shirt that says "Britany". 

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2005, 04:41:25 pm »
LOL, Too funny. Now if we can get him and Deadpool together...

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 03:38:31 pm »
Fantastic 4 sucked!   I will really be surprised if another is made.

God awful movie.
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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2005, 12:33:05 pm »
I doubt quite seriously that it was as bad as 'Captain America' or those made-for-TV Spider-Man movies from the '70's. ;D
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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2005, 05:06:51 pm »
Fantastic 4 isn't bad- it's just not great.
Doom is a completely different character, Richards is "really-smart"
but doesn't seem to be "super genius"
Sue is OK (although looks way to young..I can overlook it)
The Thing and Human Torch were pretty good.

Problem is they tried to cram about 3-4hours worth of movie into less than two.
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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2005, 12:32:43 am »
I generally agree with Hexx.  The movie was not bad, it just didn't measure up to Spider-Man or X-Men.  I'd rate it about the same as 'The Punisher', which I enjoyed, though I probably got more of a charge out of this one.

Biggest problem was that it didn't have much to grab your attention right at the first.  Second biggest problem was that the guy playing Doom was the weakest actor of the bunch.

On the plus side, all four of the four did very well.  I think that with a weaker cast, the movie really would've sucked, but the chemistry between the protagonists saved it from becoming 'Daredevil'.  I also thought it was gutsy of the screenwriters to downplay the superhero stuff in favor of character conflict/interaction/development'.  Very Marvel of them, but it made the final battle with Doom seem almost out of place, so maybe that's one of the things people think is off.

Overall?  It's not X-Men 2 or Batman Begins, but I left the theater satisfied.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2005, 04:58:15 am »
 I wish they would do Iorn Man and Thor.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2005, 07:05:20 pm »
Fantastic 4 sucked!   I will really be surprised if another is made.

God awful movie.

That's what I heard.  But I heard the problem was they spent too much time on backstory rather than giving it a point (am I far off here?)

Hopefully, any sequel will be better, otherwise it should just get canned.

That's a lot of movies, btw.  I have hope for X-Men.  I have no idea why I haven't seen the 2nd Spiderman yet, its on all the time, but I like Spiderman, so I'm hopeful for this as well (what villians will they have? 4 villians?  I'm thinking that they would be relatively minor guys like Shocker, Chemilion, etc, with possible Scorpion as  a more major guy.  I'm doubtful that they'd pick Venom, but anything's possible).
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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2005, 04:26:05 pm »
I imagine it will be based off of Spiderman 200?  (I think that's the one where Harry is the Green Goblin, and he and Spidy finally have a final showdown...Spidy takes Harry down finally, after Harry burns down a mansion, and Harry is taken off in the ambulance after telling peter he's his best friend).  In which case Venom probably will make an appearance as well...Carnage...maybe depending on how far back they go with that storyline, and I'm not certain who the fourth would be.

by the way, the list is missing one new marvel movie that I heard is now in the making.  It's a live action Transformer movie.  If I recall, Transformers was and may still be a Marvel comic...
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2005, 04:34:20 pm »
 Im hoping like heck they do one with Venom. Hes one of my favorite bad guys.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2005, 04:46:05 pm »
Iron Man is suppose too be coming out. Google it and u will see. I think there looking at tom Cruise too Play him.

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2005, 05:09:48 pm »
Iron Man is suppose too be coming out. Google it and u will see. I think there looking at tom Cruise too Play him.

 Thanks !! :)  Tom Cruise as Tony Stark??  I could see it working. IF he doesn't cheese up the fight scenes.

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2005, 06:49:18 pm »
I *think* the only villain confirmed for Spidey 3 is the Sandman, Raimi gave the idea
that he wants to (basically) follow continuity, So Green Goblin 2 (likey Hobgoblin- my favourite- from the original series)
Sandman/ Lizard (maybe) /Kraven (God I hope not) /Electro (uhmm) / Vulture (oh please no) / Scorpion etc will
all likely be along before Venom.

That being said even for the fanboi's there's only so many early villains that will work (Uhmm Vulture?Kraven?)
so I wouldn't be surprised to see Venom in #4 or 5
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2005, 08:15:50 pm »
I *think* the only villain confirmed for Spidey 3 is the Sandman, Raimi gave the idea
that he wants to (basically) follow continuity, So Green Goblin 2 (likey Hobgoblin- my favourite- from the original series)
Sandman/ Lizard (maybe) /Kraven (God I hope not) /Electro (uhmm) / Vulture (oh please no) / Scorpion etc will
all likely be along before Venom.

That being said even for the fanboi's there's only so many early villains that will work (Uhmm Vulture?Kraven?)
so I wouldn't be surprised to see Venom in #4 or 5

 The scorpion would be cool, but I agree about Kraven and the Vulture. :P The Lizard never really worked for me either.
That would pretty much be a waste of a good movie.

 So far they have been outstanding, and I just hope they keep it up.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2005, 09:13:19 am »
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Filming on Bryan Sing – sorry, Matthew Vaug… erm, Brett Ratner’s X-Men 3 gets underway, ooh, any second now in Vancouver and – just in the nick of time – the mutant sequel’s cast has been completed.

Three new additions to the X-cast were announced today, most prominent among them Olivia Williams, the lovely and talented British actress – who once called Empire’s mobile by mistake, fact fans! – and star of The Sixth Sense and Below. She’ll play Scottish scientist Professor Moira McTaggert, who runs the Mutant Research Centre on the fictional Muir Island (don’t go looking for it on Google Earth, folks; we’ve tried. Couldn’t find Hogwarts either).

A human with mutant sympathies, Moira – who’s dead now in the comics – once had a love affair with the X-Men’s wheelchair bound leader, the psychic Professor X. It’s not known whether Moira will provide that function in X3 (although we’re sure Patrick Stewart won’t be complaining), but bearing in mind what we’ve heard about that charac… no, we can’t go on. Spoilers abound!

The other cast members include Michael Murphy – star of Wes Craven’s Shocker, folks! – as Warren Worthington, the human father of Ben Foster’s bewinged mutant Angel (and, if early rumours are to be believed, one of the major villains of the piece, with a serious anti-mutant agenda), and the magnificent Bill Duke, who’ll play a politician. A talented actor/writer/director, Duke will always have a place in Empire’s hearts simply because he played Mac in Predator. Honest – it really is that simple. You want to go to Empire Valhalla when you die? Appear in Predator.

Williams, Murphy and Duke would appear to be the final piece in an X-jigsaw that brings back returning stars Stewart, Ian McKellen, Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, James Marsden, Shawn Ashmore, Rebecca Romijn and Anna Paquin, and introduces new actors Vinnie Jones (Juggernaut), Kelsey Grammer (Beast), Ellen Page (Shadowcat), Cameron Bright (Leech) and Foster. There were rumours that card-wielding anti-hero Gambit would be thrown into the mix, but no news on that front yet.

X3 – in which our mutant heroes face off against multiple threats, including the resurgent mutant terrorist Magneto, the return of their own Jean Grey aka Phoenix, and a human threat, alleged to be a mutant ‘cure’ - has been a notoriously troubled production, yet we’re rooting for Ratner, and the guys at Fox/Marvel, to pull this one off.

With just around nine months until the movie is due in cinemas – May 26, 2006 – it’s going to be tight, but fingers crossed. Certainly, scriptwriter Zak Penn (who’s writing the movie along with Simon Kinberg) remained bullish when Empire bumped into him recently. Word to the wise, Zak: if you get in a bind, story-wise, just let Wolverine go berserk. Oh, and our Helen says ‘can his shirt fall off? Again?’ Sorted.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2005, 11:23:01 am »


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2005, 12:35:38 pm »
Very nice Ben. I always liked Thor myself, Probably in my top 5 Marvel heros.

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Re: Marvel Movie Rumor thread.
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2005, 11:05:20 pm »
Yeah, but they don't need to cast some meathead wrestler as Thor.  Otherwise, they've ruined it.  Thor needs a good casting.  Lets hope they show some sense.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2005, 05:49:56 am »
 I agree !! Thor is one of my favorites. They best not screw it up, with some steroid riddled retard. >:(

 This is the God of Thunder, not Bubba, who works down to tha, muffler shop. ::)

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2005, 01:06:03 pm »
Olivia Williams (Professor Moira McTaggert)
Michael Murphy (Warren Worthington)
Ben Foster (Angel)
Bill Duke (politician)
Stewart (Xavier)
Ian McKellen (Magneto)
Hugh Jackman (Wolverine)
Halle Berry (Storm)
Famke Janssen (Marvel Girl/Phoenix)
James Marsden (Cyclops)
Shawn Ashmore (Iceman)
Rebecca Romijn (Mystique)
Vinnie Jones (Juggernaut)
Kelsey Grammer (Beast)
Ellen Page (Shadowcat)
Cameron Bright (Leech)
and Foster (beats me)

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There were rumours that card-wielding anti-hero Gambit would be thrown into the mix, but no news on that front yet.

With just around nine months until the movie is due in cinemas – May 26, 2006 – it’s going to be tight, but fingers crossed. Certainly, scriptwriter Zak Penn (who’s writing the movie along with Simon Kinberg) remained bullish

Holy crap, Batman!  Thats a lot of characters!  They are all characters I like and would love to see on film, but all at once?  Doesn't seem like they will be able to tell a real story with many of them.

When the X-men comic's regular cast got this big, they broke it into two seperate teams with two seperate comics.   This almost sounds like they need two movies in order to do it right.  With only 9 months to write and film it?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  I so want this to be good.

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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2005, 12:35:02 pm »
Still think one of the WORST ever cases of casting was Halle Berry as Storm.  Every time I see her playing that role, I wince.


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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2005, 12:41:20 pm »
Still think one of the WORST ever cases of casting was Halle Berry as Storm.  Every time I see her playing that role, I wince.

 Whys that? :) I thought she did allright.

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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2005, 12:43:32 pm »
Storm is perhaps the strongest and most wise member of the X-Men, and older than the rest.  She doesn't look or act like an out of work cheer leader.  I was hoping they would have cast Angela Basset in the role, as she is perfect.  Halle Berry is too weak and cutesy to give Storm the strength she possesses.


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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2005, 01:17:04 pm »
 Good point. :)

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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2005, 07:52:15 pm »
Interesting.  I'm hopeful for Gambit, but I like the people they have so far.  I remember seeing an episode of the X-Men cartoon not so long ago (reruns, obviously ;) ) with Dr. Moira and a mutant who was her son named Proteus (a lot of what I know about the X-Men comes from the cartoon show, instead of the comics, so I'm not exactly sure what was changed).  I strongly doubt they could fit him in at all, and it probably wouldn't be worth it (he has his own personal problems, but I don't see how they could lead to a continuation of the plot).
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2005, 01:14:20 pm »
Honestly I have little hope for X3.
Npt because of the director (although there is that) but due to the fact that they keep adding characters.
The first one was good, the second was OK -but there started to be to many characters and to little screen time devoted to each.
I liked the Xbooks the best out of all the Marvel titles i read- but really I don't think they will continue to
adapt well to film.
Even the books got very stupid after awhile ( Magneto throws pulse wave around the world but can't smack a X-Man 10 feet away //
Sentinels go from being  dangerous opponents to basically training tools for new  members)
After years away from them I find the X-Men comics the hardest to pick up and read today.

I am  looking forward to a Wolverine movie though..
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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2005, 02:46:10 pm »
I think Diane Keaton would have been a great Storm.
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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2005, 03:15:56 pm »
Is it just me or does Diane Keaton seem to have a slight, but perpetual smirk on her face?

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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2005, 03:48:55 pm »
Is it just me or does Diane Keaton seem to have a slight, but perpetual smirk on her face?

She's always thinking about her checking account after First Wives Club.   :-X
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2005, 08:31:47 am »
Dracho wins one free one way ticket to hell for that. ;D


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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2005, 09:04:21 pm »
How is Famke going to be in it again unless they tell the phoenix saga?  But from the sounds of it they are going to be telling the Apocalypse/Four Horsemen story.
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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2005, 10:00:53 pm »


 Boy I hope so!! That would be cool as hell!!!  :) :) :)

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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2005, 12:44:23 am »
How is Famke going to be in it again unless they tell the phoenix saga?  But from the sounds of it they are going to be telling the Apocalypse/Four Horsemen story.

Definitely looks like they will do the Pheonix story.


X3 – in which our mutant heroes face off against multiple threats, including the resurgent mutant terrorist Magneto, the return of their own Jean Grey aka Phoenix, and a human threat, alleged to be a mutant ‘cure’ - has been a notoriously troubled production, yet we’re rooting for Ratner, and the guys at Fox/Marvel, to pull this one off.



Hey!  Was't one of the first Pheonix stories also the first appearance of the Hellfire Club?  Away with all these other has-been characters!  I want to see Sebastian Shaw!   (The White Queen wouldn't be bad to look at either.!

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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2005, 06:27:50 am »
How is Famke going to be in it again unless they tell the phoenix saga?  But from the sounds of it they are going to be telling the Apocalypse/Four Horsemen story.

Definitely looks like they will do the Pheonix story.


X3 – in which our mutant heroes face off against multiple threats, including the resurgent mutant terrorist Magneto, the return of their own Jean Grey aka Phoenix, and a human threat, alleged to be a mutant ‘cure’ - has been a notoriously troubled production, yet we’re rooting for Ratner, and the guys at Fox/Marvel, to pull this one off.



Hey!  Was't one of the first Pheonix stories also the first appearance of the Hellfire Club?  Away with all these other has-been characters!  I want to see Sebastian Shaw!   (The White Queen wouldn't be bad to look at either.!

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Shoot Maybe we can Get Erin Grey to do a Cameo also. As a side note, I got the wife to wear the Morgan Fairchild mask last night, so anythings Possible.  ;)

It's either way too early or we are getting way to old Scippy.  ;D

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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2005, 02:20:18 am »
Shoot Maybe we can Get Erin Grey to do a Cameo also. As a side note, I got the wife to wear the Morgan Fairchild mask last night, so anythings Possible.  ;)

It's either way too early or we are getting way to old Scippy.  ;D

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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2005, 08:15:30 am »
Shoot Maybe we can Get Erin Grey to do a Cameo also. As a side note, I got the wife to wear the Morgan Fairchild mask last night, so anythings Possible.  ;)

It's either way too early or we are getting way to old Scippy.  ;D

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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2005, 08:45:35 am »
Random thoughts:

I'm really looking forward to Iron Man.  They can do a lot with that comic I think - Tony's troubles, War Machine, etc. 

I think seeing the Pheonix in X3 is a given.  They seriously hinted at it at the end of X2.  Seeing the Angel will be interesting, though I liked his evil Arch Angel metal wings better.  Mmmmmmmmmmm.........Emma Frost!  Gambit would be fun too and too bad about Rogue I was hoping they would expand on her character. 

The Punisher was better than the box office would make it seem.  Though to be honest if anything he was too nice.  The Frank I remember (and it's been a long time since I've really read Punisher) was seriously kick a**. 

Thor was a good comic when I was a kid but haven't seen much since.  Not sure they could translate it to film without an excess of cheese. 

In Spiderman my favorites have always been Venom, Carnage and Green Goblin.  Not sure I can that much about continuity - they always mess with that stuff in movies anyway. 

Fantastic Four was better than the TV Captain America and company from back in the day - but not by much. 

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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2005, 09:46:41 am »
http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=3510

During an interview this weekend promoting Elizabethtown, Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman and Topher Grace is Venom in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, opening in theaters on May 4, 2007.

"We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films.

"Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist.

Dunst has yet to receive a script for the third film that will begin shooting in January. "But I know the general story. There's a lot that they're trying to fit into this one."

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« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2005, 02:19:50 pm »
 VENOM !!!!! :) :) :) :) :gg: :dance: :dance: :rwoot: :multi: :multi: :multi: On boy ive been waiting for this one "they" ;) are my favorite Supervillans . After Dark  Sied

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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2005, 03:02:09 pm »
as a Brief Aside Mike, I heard if you beat the Ultimate Spidey Game on any Play ing Level, easy moderate hard etc, You can play DeadPool.

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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2005, 09:40:03 pm »
Just because they bring Famke Jansen back as Phoenix doesn't mean they have to go Dark Phoenix with her immediately...  IIRC, in the comics, Phoenix was around for some time before the now-classic Dark Phoenix Saga.  Frankly, I think it's better if they do X3 with her still as one of the good guys (although certainly with some foreshadowing of where this could go ;) ), and then make an X4 dedicated wholly (or at least mostly) to Dark Phoenix...
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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2005, 07:41:10 am »
Just caught this at Aint It cool news... Spoiler warning for Xmen 3...

AICN EXCLUSIVE! X3 Script Review! Plus An Open Letter To Tom Rothman And Fox Stockholders!!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Okay, I know, I know. I’m late with this. But you can thank Earthlink for that. Nine days without service of any kind. Amazing. I was starting to think that Avi Arad and Fox had paid Earthlink to crash my service.
Now, before we begin, let’s clarify a few things. Harry and I have not read the X-MEN 3 script, any version of it. We’ve got a new spy who has, though, and I’ve been able to verify that the version of the script he read was the “six-day-draft” that Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn wrote under the supervision of Matthew Vaughn. I like both Kinberg and Penn as writers, and I know that both of them are genuinely going to try to do right by the characters. However, this isn’t a case of two writers doing whatever they want. If it were, I don’t think there’d be anything to worry about.
You want to know who the main villain of X3 is going to be? Tom Rothman.
One of the reasons I started reading AICN, before I ever contributed anything to it, was because it demystified the development process. So often, blame (or credit) is assigned by fans to people for no particular reason. It’s easy to point a finger at a director or at a writer or even at a company like Marvel and assume that they were responsible for something, but having gone through the development process several times now for different studios (including Fox), I can tell you that more often than not, the truly terrible decisions can come from people whose names you never see onscreen.
When I call Rothman a villain, I’m well aware of how loaded that word is. I can’t think of anything more shocking this year, though, than the speech he gave at this year’s Saturn Awards. Here’s a show specifically designed to celebrate genre, a room filled with SF, fantasy, and horror filmmakers, and Tom Rothman gets up and not only lambasts everyone who writes about those genres, but also has the nerve to call himself a geek.
You, sir, are no geek. A geek would not have stripmined the ALIEN and PREDATOR franchises the way you did. A geek would not consistently value release dates and fiscal quarters over getting material right. Listening to him talk about what a friend he is to genre filmmakers was akin to being at a Shoah Foundation dinner where the guest of honor was Joseph Goebbels. This is the guy who chased Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin off an ID4 sequel after they made $600 million for the studio because he wanted to pay them half of what they made on the first film. This is the man who browbeat Stephen Norrington until he quit the business altogether. This is the guy who almost convinced Alex Proyas to give up filmmaking. How many genre filmmakers... great genre filmmakers... do you see returning to Fox over and over to make their films? And why, exactly, do you think that is?
By the way, Rothman... telling a ballroom full of people that you’re a geek because you f*ck the star of SUSPIRIA and PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE every night? Classy. Very, very classy. But still... not the point.
If you’re a Fox stockholder, now is the time to be concerned. X-MEN is the only proven major franchise that Fox currently has up and running. Who knows if FANTASTIC FOUR is going to work or not? Maybe it’ll be great. Maybe it won’t. ALIEN VS PREDATOR marked the end of two franchises at the same time. STAR WARS was never yours in the first place. Studios depend on these types of films. There’s a reason they’re called tentpoles. This is what you build the entire rest of your release year around. If you manage one of these properties the right way, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. Look at the way Sony has handled SPIDER-MAN so far. As soon as they release one, they start developing the next one, giving them plenty of time to get the script just right. They don’t start shooting until this winter, but they’re already doing FX and costume tests, and they’re deep into the writing process based on an outline that Sam Raimi and his brother have been tweaking since last year.
You know when Rothman finally gave the go-ahead to start putting together the treatment for X-MEN 3? This February. I’m a chronic procrastinator, and even I think that’s piss-poor time management, man.
Here’s the thing about X-MEN. It may be one of the most flexible and durable film franchises I’ve ever seen. By the very nature of who the X-Men are, you can rotate cast in and out of the series without having to scrap continuity. This is already off to a better financial and creative start than the Bond franchise was, and you see the legs on that one. Why, then, would you allow a personal grudge to lead you to make decisions that will not only kill the golden goose, but also rape it and eat it?
And make no mistake... the rush to make that Memorial Day 2006 release date is about beating Bryan Singer to the screen. The acrimony involved in the Singer/Fox break-up is rich enough to write an entire book about, especially if it leads to the destruction of the franchise. This could turn into one of the all-time great displays of executive hubris in Hollywood. You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision. You strung him along and strung him along and strung him along, and then when you had finally proven to him that you weren’t going to make things easy... you were too late. Alan Horn took full advantage of Bryan’s almost-fetishistic love of Donner’s SUPERMAN and your hesitancy, and he stole him from you. I don’t know what’s funnier... throwing Bryan off the lot using security guards, or the fact that you had to let him back on the lot immediately thereafter so he could shoot HOUSE for the studio.
What’s really amazing is how X-MEN was something Rothman hated from the start, no matter what he says now in public. I’ve spoken to at least ten people close to the production who have provided me with laundry lists of the ways that Rothman tried to f*ck up the first film. Remember when they cut the budget and moved up the release date on the first X-MEN? You know why? Rothman was cutting his losses. He really, truly anticipated that the film would come out and vanish without a trace, and he would finally be rid of what he saw as a corporate albatross. Instead, the film clicked, and on the second film, Bryan Singer and his writers and the producers were all able to muster enough muscle to get Fox to give them the room they needed to make something even better.
That must have stuck in Rothman’s craw something fierce, and that’s what led to that massive slow-down after X-MEN 2. They should have made Bryan’s deal the following week, and they should have also locked in Dougherty and Harris and Tom DeSanto and Lauren Shuler-Donner and Ralph Winter and the entire production team and the cast and everyone else that was part of the creative alchemy that made the first two films work. I remember one year at BNAT when Tom DeSanto talked about the way they had been planting the seeds of the Dark Phoenix storyline and several others since the very first scenes of the first X-MEN. Who knows? Maybe someday Marvel will let DeSanto and Singer do a graphic novel or a limited-run series where they do the story they had in mind for X3 and X4 on the comics page so we can at least see where the films were originally headed. As it is, Rothman’s firmly back in charge of the franchise now, and that distaste for the material seems to be seeping back in.
Which is not to say that all the news is bad.
When I was first contacted by The Big Hurt, our new spy, I almost dismissed the review he sent us. Too much detail is almost always the giveaway for someone trying to troll you. But I was able to verify this with multiple sources all the way up the chain of command at Fox and Marvel, and I can tell you... even though some of the details of the script are still being hammered out, the spine of what you’re going to see onscreen next summer is right here. Harry seems to have implied in some of what he’s written that he feels this is an unmitigated disaster. I’m not so sure yet. I do know that there are some valid complaints here, particularly regarding the way the main menace of the film is almost a carbon-copy of the menace from the last film. Also, one of Rothman’s chuckle-headed notions that he kept trying to shoehorn into the first film, the idea of Storm and Wolverine having a steamy sexual relationship, has resurfaced now. Gee, I wonder why. But there’s stuff here that I like, and it sounds like there are some amazing sequences in store. Keep in mind also that what our spy read was rough, so even if the substance of a scene was right in the draft he read, the way it’s actually handled may be very different in the final version. Dialogue, the description of certain effects, the way an action scene is fleshed out... it’s still early days yet. And even with all those caveats, this is mostly a positive review.
I’ve really wrestled with how much to reveal of the spoilers, too. In the end, I hope we’ve erred on the side of caution, but I want to give you a sense of exactly why Avi Arad calls this “the most controversial film of the series.”
Next summer, Fox is cleaning house, and there are going to be a lot of bodies on the bonfire. Check this out:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443   <---- The script that was mentioned.
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