Topic: Back's a little better, so here's a WIP...UPDATE 6-6-05 Almost done!! (Read 6402 times)

Sandman3D · « **on:** May 24, 2005, 10:09:41 pm »

Yes, my back is better to the point I can do a little modeling.

This is based on the Lancelot class from EAS fleetyards...couldn't get the shuttle hangar right so eff it.

What ya think?

Centurus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:19:49 pm »

Oooooo, is that what I think it is? Estimate time till completion?

Sandman3D · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:40:06 pm »

Not really sure...haven't done anything in a while...hurt my back and can't sit for long.

I'll start mapping and texturing tomorrow, and I'll keep ya posted.

Victory · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2005, 11:01:59 pm »

is this meant to be the Constalation class? I always hated that ship, but will be interested on how this one turns out.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2005, 11:08:32 pm »

No...did one of those already,,,this can be seen as a replacement.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2005, 12:30:42 am »

Glad to see you back Sandman. I like a lot of your models and am very glad to see you doing models again based on the EAS site (those are some of my favorite Star Trek ships).

Hey, do you have a website where I can download your models? I seem to have lost your web link assuming you had one in the past.

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2005, 12:54:53 am »

Cool! I actually like the Constellation. (Call me strange, because I like the Ent. B as well.

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Nice to see you back, man. I've had some back problems in my time. Although, nothing as bad as you do, evidently. So, I can "feel your pain".

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2005, 07:28:32 am »

Welcome back bud !

Take it easy on the re-entry ! Dont over do it ! You will get done when you get done ! We can wait .....

( sooo you think by this week end ?)

JUST KIDDING !

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2005, 08:50:46 am »

First of all Im glad your back is a little better. Back problems really suck I know...

Overall I like this design. My only quibble regarding the design is that the warp pylons, esp the two vertical ones, seem to need some beefing up. a little too weak looking. Otherwise

Sandman3D · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2005, 09:06:31 am »

Thanx guys!!

Yeah, the pylons need a little work as well as the bridge module...too "triangley".

Also thinking of adding a couple of dual torp launchers on the cross bars.

M357, I used to have a site, but couldn't afford it so...

I am a member of Outalance and have some space there, just need to figure it out and u/l my stuff.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2005, 01:37:09 pm »

Kinda reminds me of a Cheyenne prototype

Sandman3D · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:30:51 pm »

OK, beefed up the crossbars and added some torp launchers, started the texturing...had to stop, gave myself a migraine again...damn head.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2005, 01:57:04 am »

I actually like this ship MORE then the Cheyenne.

Nice work so far Sandman. I do agree with you about the Bridge, I don't think its suppose to be that "Triangly". But I know from experience with my own models how difficult it can be the shape things the right way you want them to be.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2005, 01:34:49 am »

is it just me or is there a symetry problem with the triangular bridge module?

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2005, 10:30:19 am »

Quote from: Starforce2 on May 27, 2005, 01:34:49 am

is it just me or is there a symetry problem with the triangular bridge module?

Umm could be the lighting. Appearance might (or might not:)) be improved if Sman where to make the front of the triangle more rounded than the other two, and stretch it out a bit. just an idea...

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2005, 11:54:41 am »

I agree with Lord Schtupp about the triangle, but I've noticed in my own models that things tend to get asymetrical if you're not careful. There's one WIP (Yamato class) that I've practically abandoned because the symetry got so bad. I'll get back to it and fix it eventually.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2005, 02:24:10 pm »

OK, fixed the bridge...what ya think?

Starforce2 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:10:11 pm »

I think it fits the era better. I assume this is something on the order of the cheyenne? Or atleast thats the era (eraly tng)?

Sandman3D · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2005, 08:51:40 pm »

Yeah, more of an early TNG/late Lost Era.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #19 on:** May 27, 2005, 09:11:02 pm »

It totally works for me as the go between for the Constellation and Cheyenne.OT how's the Wanbunda coming along ?
-MP

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2005, 10:59:30 pm »

yea sman I like that bridge much better - yessir that will be a nice model when done

Sandman3D · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2005, 12:54:29 am »

Thanx guys!

MP, been working on the wifes puter (used to be mine so still has max and PS), but gonna see about flip/flopping between the 2 to get these done.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2005, 02:18:15 am »

Quote from: Sandman3D on May 28, 2005, 12:54:29 am

Thanx guys!

MP, been working on the wifes puter (used to be mine so still has max and PS), but gonna see about flip/flopping between the 2 to get these done.

WOOHOO !!!!!!!
And there was much rejoicing.............

-MP

Sandman3D · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2005, 11:18:52 am »

Hehe, now I just have to figure out how to get the line tool in PS cs to act like in PS7...some reason it now is a vector tool. $:-\$ Oh well, I'll survive.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2005, 10:48:35 am »

OK, a little more texturing done. IMHO, it's turning out pretty good so far.

Centurus · « **Reply #25 on:** May 29, 2005, 02:54:27 pm »

This is starting to look killer. Only gripe is the registry. She looks a bit off center to me. But that's easily fixable. When will she be finished?

Magnum357 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2005, 05:54:31 pm »

Hey Sandman, have you done any other EAS ships? I can't remember if you did or did not.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2005, 08:53:53 pm »

A couple...the Java ftr, the Eagle and the Fabrux tender. Planning on more.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2005, 12:05:32 pm »

Hey "Sandman"

looks good sir .. the only thing that needs attention are the warp nacell pylons. Me thinks they are still a little small for such a fine design as what you have so far. The front profile can still be thin .. but they still need to be "beffed up" just a tad to provide proper support.

Other wise ...

looks good !

Magnum357 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2005, 04:40:35 pm »

I'm not sure about that OlBuzzard, I think Sand might have it pretty close to the original specs, but I do think he needs to add more Z-axis width to the pylons. Was this what you where referring too?

Hey Sand, are you going to redesign the Aft section of the ship? It seems a tad small compared to the original specs.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #30 on:** May 31, 2005, 04:42:39 pm »

Yeah, I that's what he means. Easily fixable.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #31 on:** May 31, 2005, 09:13:26 pm »

Well, some more texturing, and I beefed up the pylons some...whacha think?

Sandman3D · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2005, 09:02:29 pm »

OK, well, have most of the 2ndary and the struts mapped, I'll post some pics later.

I just noticed something...there were no impulse engines on the drawing, and when I made my alterations I forgot to add. Where would you put them?

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2005, 09:06:03 pm »

How about on either side of the back of the saucer like the Galaxy class saucer? I think that would work well.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2005, 09:58:15 pm »

Try Ent B style to the outside of the narcelles on the back of the saucer. Or on the back of the warp pylons.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #35 on:** June 02, 2005, 09:57:33 am »

OK, still have to add some details, but the 2ndary is mapped...here's a few shots...

Victory · « **Reply #36 on:** June 02, 2005, 10:25:00 am »

What about putting the Impulse in those grey spots on the back of the saucer? Lookin good so far dude.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #37 on:** June 02, 2005, 12:11:53 pm »

personally I think MP's idea of putting the impulse on the warp pylons is good !

BTW !!

great job Sandman .. keep it comming !

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2005, 12:44:35 pm »

Here's another thought, try something completely different and add the deflector to the rear of the secondary hull.

MajorRacal · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2005, 02:31:16 pm »

Would that not negate the purpose of the deflector?

Magnum357 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 02, 2005, 05:06:47 pm »

I say have the Deflector imbedded in the front of the saucer section kinda like how the Enterprise-D has a small deflector grid inbedded in its saucer section, used when the Saucer seperates away from the Battle section at warp speeds.

As for Impulse engines, I didn't notice that before Sand. The original sketches don't seem to show any type of Impulse system. I say if your going to add impulse engines, they should be centerlined and not on the Pylons.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #41 on:** June 02, 2005, 05:52:56 pm »

Well, the deflector system is like on the Constellation, uses other systems to achieve the same result.

Been thinking of putting the impulse on the rear of the 2ndary...what do you think?

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #42 on:** June 03, 2005, 08:50:29 am »

If you do the "center line" thingy ... I would put it on the primary hull. If you decided to put it on the secondary .. hmmmm well I think close to the secondary .. but still on the pylons.

Either one of the two ...

Out side of that .... your choice !

Magnum357 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:58:05 am »

Hey Sand, I was looking over the schematics of the ship from EAS and I think the sketches do indicate a type of deflector. Its really small, but on the cross section of the bottom Pylon, there seems to be a tiny light blue are that might indicate a small Deflector emitter.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #44 on:** June 04, 2005, 05:00:30 am »

Quote from: Magnum357 on June 04, 2005, 12:58:05 am

Hey Sand, I was looking over the schematics of the ship from EAS and I think the sketches do indicate a type of deflector. Its really small, but on the cross section of the bottom Pylon, there seems to be a tiny light blue are that might indicate a small Deflector emitter.

I took a look as well and it does appear the lower saucer dome is blue and could very possibly be the deflector, I can also see the area Magnum is referring to as well. And it appears as if in the center of the Top Pylon crossbar there's a photon launchers as well.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #45 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:26:21 pm »

Justnoticed that now you mention it...that'll work.

Now to decide the impulse.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #46 on:** June 06, 2005, 12:07:28 pm »

OK, well, kinda in limbo again...back went downhill again...just not as bad as before, so I'll be working on this, just a little slower. $:-\$

TAKE CARE OF YOUR BACK!!! THIS REALLY SUX!!!

Sandman3D · « **Reply #47 on:** June 06, 2005, 12:49:04 pm »

OK, did the impulse as per atheorhavens suggestion and it looks right...what you think?

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #48 on:** June 06, 2005, 01:01:04 pm »

yeah ! those look ok.

I think you can do the torp launcher off of the vertical nacelle supports (like you see in some Fed DD's )

Sandman3D · « **Reply #49 on:** June 06, 2005, 02:49:30 pm »

OK, almost finished.

markyd · « **Reply #50 on:** June 06, 2005, 03:02:34 pm »

Hmmmm shaping up dude... very nice, looks low poly yet detailed.... nice work.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #51 on:** June 06, 2005, 10:01:04 pm »

Looks good ...

will there be a torp launcher ?

Sandman3D · « **Reply #52 on:** June 06, 2005, 10:10:09 pm »

Yep...still have to do that and the deflector and the sensor dome...then the brk and the hp/dp.

You know me...when I have a WIP thread I show every step, or at least each days work.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 07, 2005, 04:24:33 am »

Its looking very nice Sand.

Also, I hope you post this ship and your other models somewhere. I would really like to download them.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #54 on:** June 07, 2005, 07:25:18 am »

Quote from: Sandman3D on June 06, 2005, 10:10:09 pm

Yep...still have to do that and the deflector and the sensor dome...then the brk and the hp/dp. You know me...when I have a WIP thread I show every step, or at least each days work.

cool !

atheorhaven · « **Reply #55 on:** June 07, 2005, 07:52:57 am »

Quote from: Sandman3D on June 06, 2005, 12:49:04 pm

OK, did the impulse as per atheorhavens suggestion and it looks right...what you think?

Yup, looks great... the low height engines were what it needed.

Makes it more finished this way..

Sandman3D · « **Reply #56 on:** June 07, 2005, 08:03:48 am »

Quote from: Magnum357 on June 07, 2005, 04:24:33 am

Its looking very nice Sand.

Also, I hope you post this ship and your other models somewhere. I would really like to download them.

Thanx!! After I get this done, I'll be getting the upload procedure from F_W so I can finally get my spot at Outalance going.

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