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BluRay Disc Format
« on: May 21, 2005, 05:34:03 pm »
Do you think the Sony PS3 disc format (which holds a whopping 54.3gb per disc, as opposed to 7.4(?) per DVD) will migrate to the PC?
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2005, 07:02:10 pm »
I remember reading somewhere that the HD-DVD format was going to be used because there was less costs involved in updating hardware.  I'm not sure if that was the only factor but I'm sure it was the biggest one.

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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2005, 10:06:50 pm »
There's currently a war brewing between MS and Sony and the hot issue...what the next generation of DVD format will be.  I expect one or the other will lose and it could get rather nasty before it's all said and done.

The big question is will customers really want to go out and buy these new better DVD replacements of movies they already have on normal DVD?

One of the winning items was that DVD's played on computers...AND ALSO that they could take up less space such as all being kept in a wallet like CDs.

What will the new DVD's have over the old ones that would inspire people to buy them?
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2005, 10:22:35 pm »
they aren't DVDs    theyre a whole different format. And I was thinking more on the lines of games. Do you know how many levels and crap you could put on one of those?
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2005, 10:24:37 pm »
I remember reading somewhere that the HD-DVD format was going to be used because there was less costs involved in updating hardware.  I'm not sure if that was the only factor but I'm sure it was the biggest one.


I believe that stability is still an issue.

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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2005, 10:34:29 pm »
They have capacity.   Now make them smaller, shirt pocket size or less.
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2005, 11:37:05 pm »
One of the things blue ray offers which will probably make it the likely canidate for the next genration of storage devices is its capacity.  last i checked they had a disc capable of holding 100 gigs....
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2005, 03:26:52 am »
One of the things blue ray offers which will probably make it the likely canidate for the next genration of storage devices is its capacity. last i checked they had a disc capable of holding 100 gigs....
the ones in developement, yes... but the ones right now that the games for PS3 are on are 54.3 or somewhere around there.
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2005, 02:24:39 pm »
That's the single layer model, IIRC. The dual layer was upwards of 100gb, obviously.

I for one, welcome a new format. Maybe I can get just one huge Blu-Ray to burn all my MP3's to eventually...
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2005, 03:21:02 pm »
heh... but still imagine the possibilities for games...
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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2005, 04:11:30 pm »

I believe that stability is still an issue.

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Issues like that can usually be worked out.  I can't see how it could be any more unstable that the current DVD format.  Some of those burners can make coasters with the best of them.  The only reason why I care is rather or not there will be two optical drives in my next system or not.

While I was writing this post I came across this Reuters report.  Looks like a compromise is in the works.

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SEATTLE (Reuters) - Japan's Sony Corp. and Toshiba Corp. are close to finalizing a plan to develop a common standard for next-generation DVDs to resolve a three-year-long battle over formats that threatened the industry's growth, a Japanese newspaper reported on Monday.

A detailed plan could be unveiled ahead of a key meeting of manufacturers involved in the manufacture of next-generation DVDs scheduled for May 16, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun said.

Sony, along with Matsush*ta Electric Industrial Co. Ltd., maker of Panasonic brand products, had been pushing for the standard it calls Blu-ray, while Toshiba, with NEC Corp. and Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd., has been promoting a technology called HD DVD.

Both sides have indicated that a new, unified format will use Sony's technology for recording information onto an optical disk while Toshiba will supply software that will handle efficient data transfer and copyright protection.


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Re: BluRay Disc Format
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2005, 09:18:13 am »
Link to full story

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STORAGE MAKER Iomega says it has been granted two optical storage patents which could ramp up DVD capacity by 40-100 times and up transfer rates up to 30 times.


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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2005, 03:15:23 pm »
Link to 2nd article on the Iomega patent

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Iomega is working to investigate the commercial feasibility of this format and other nano-structural data encoding formats. One possibility being investigated, termed NG-DVD (Nano-Grating - DVD), uses nano-gratings to encode multi-level information via reflectivity, polarization, phase, and reflective orientation multiplexing. Iomega is concurrently evaluating and developing appropriate partners to leverage this intellectual property for producing commercial data storage devices.
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