Topic: Mirror-Mirror Kill Thread

[Green]

(hey, someone has to start it)

Killed Anubarak's frig in my DD in 35,5.  It was a 1v1 (but I had an AI helper & he didn't.  Still a 1v1?).

"Join the Dark side Anubarak ... it is your destiny"

[FPF-DieHard]

Garbagescow fell to the Dark side.   DD+ versus DD+ in a 1v1

GG 

[FPF-Jem]

Soreyes's FFE and his lyran AI helpers fell to my CC+ after 40 minutes of me dodging all the freakin disrupter fire.

GG Soreyes, for a while I thought your AI was going to get me.

[Dfly]

MasterJulin fell to a larger vessel while he was in his DD+.  My CF finished him and a CC+ ai off, with no ai on my side. GG

[Doctor Lazarus]

Darth Death experienced death while flying his CF vs. my CF.  GG

[FPF-DieHard]

DrAzteca died versus me in a CF versus CF fight.

GG 

[FPF-DieHard]

Accidently killed Reejir's DD+ in my CF.

Scatterpacks have a way of doig that . . .

GG   

[FPF-Jem]

Poor Soreyes's DDL(+?) fell to my BS in a planet assault.

GG Soreyes

[Barack Beard]

Darth Wraith's CF fell to my CF he had an ai DN wing and I had an ai CF wing

Darth Dead's CC+ fell to my CF in a close 1 v 1

Darth Dead's CC+ and 5 ai helpers fell to my CF and bases in a base defense mission

GG all

[Dfly]

Darth Wraith's CF fell to my CF he had an ai DN wing and I had an ai CF wing

Darth Death's CC+ fell to my CF in a close 1 v 1

Darth Death's CC+ and 5 ai helpers fell to my CF and bases in a base defense mission

GG all

I hate to differ, but Darth Death is me, and I never flew vs you  in a CC+ as I just bought my CC+ and have not used it.  Also, I never flew vs you in a base defence mission.  In fact I have not flown vs you yet in this server.  You may have flown vs Darth Dead, please check.

[FPF-Jem]

Probably means Darth Dead which is DM6 I believe

[Barack Beard]

I hate to differ, but Darth Death is me, and I never flew vs you  in a CC+ as I just bought my CC+ and have not used it.  Also, I never flew vs you in a base defence mission.  In fact I have not flown vs you yet in this server.  You may have flown vs Darth Dead, please check.

Sorry, yes it was Darth Dead,


you will just have to wait your turn Dfly 

[FPF-DieHard]

me in a CF versus Josh Belanger in a CF with an AI CAR+.

No AI help for me  . . .

Josh did not quite make it past the blackhole when I let go of the tractor . . .

GG   

[Mutilator]

Master Anubarak's CF falls to Darth Gator's CC+ 

[FPF-Paladin]

Jar Jar Binks F-CAR+  fell to Darth AntiPaladin's  K-CF  in a nebula battle... bravely fought sir <S> 

[Barack Beard]

Flying a CAR bravely indeed!

<S> to Jar Jar Binks for flying a true line ship

[Barack Beard]

Speaking of which

My CF destroyed a likewise brave Darth Wraith in a CAR

My CF also captured Darth Mrouge in a very tough and well fought battle which he stared low on supplies

and perhaps bravest of all

Someguyondrugs lost his CL+ to my CF, he had a  Lyran ai, and I had a fed plasma light cruiser.  Makes me wonder though if their is truth in his callsign since he went up vs such long odds   

[Barack Beard]

New additions

DarthDead's CC+ falls to my CF

DarthMrogue's CF falls to my CF he had a NCL+ helper and I had a DE helper

DarthMrogue's new CF got its paint scratched up a bit when it exploded by hand of my CF, he had a CVS helper and I had a CF helper

Good games

[Dfly]

I think Jar Jar Soreyes should be Jar Jar Blackeyes  as he is dealing them out pretty regularly

[TraumaTech]

cf vs cf battle    between master steve zodiac and Darth TT    a hard fought battle but in the end the terran empire prevailed 

[Nemesis]

Meesa notice Darthy babies have LOS.  Meesa decide to break it.  Meesa flies me ship (F-CAR+ Meesa gonna DIE!!) to Sector 23,5.  Meesa takes back for Gungan honor.  Dumb Darthies attack it.  Meesa take back again.  Dumb Darthies take back again.  Meesa attack it and fight DarthHexx. 

Meesa side:  Me ship F-CAR+ Meesa gonna DIE!!
AI: Z-CF, AI Z-FFE+

Darth Hexxies side:  K-CF
AI: K-DDG, K-CC+

Meesa attacks K-CC+ and cripples it.   

AI-Z-CF attacks DarthHexx (does 29 internals over course of battle)  (Meesa do 39 more.)

DarthHexx attacks AI-Z-CF and Z-FFE+.  Bad darth kill lovable little Z-FFE+

AI-K-DDG gettum killed in crossfire of all 3 good guys ships.

Bad DarthHexxie tryum TWO times to hittum me with scatterpack.  Jar Jar no dummy.  Jar Jar shootum down missles.  Jar Jar defend with tractors.  Jar Jar not gettum hurt.

DarthHexxie knowums he in trouble.  Him run for time.  Him doing okay until he'um try to "thread the needle" between two asteroids. Meesa thinks he trying to make Meesa AI-Z-CF hit asteroid and hittum big rock himself.

Himma tell me from life pod "decided I wasn't gonna let you kill me "

Meesa have message for DarthHexxie.  Way you fly you make good Gungan.

Meesa got battle film.

[Nemesis]

Jar Jar Binks F-CAR+  fell to Darth AntiPaladin's  K-CF  in a nebula battle... bravely fought sir <S> 

Meesa lost my F-CAR+ in nebula fighting DarthAntiPaladinRM in his K-CF. Meesa buying a F-CF now.

Him flew very well.

[Mutilator]

Master Anubarak's CF falls to Darth Gator's CF 

[FPF-DieHard]

Not sure if thgis counts . . ..

I cahsed Steve Zodiac's DNL off the map in the MOST LOP-SIDED AI MISSION ever.

Not sure if it is worth a point or not.

[Doctor Lazarus]

yeah lovely how the empire gets every race as allies and we just get feds. I had a DN alliy and a GSC vs a KVL and a CON plus DHs' DN. No friggin' contest there folks. Worth a VC I suppose if needed to save over 30 grand pp in a stupid mismatch...

[Doctor Lazarus]

cf vs cf battle    between master steve zodiac and Darth TT    a hard fought battle but in the end the terran empire prevailed 

you were terrific and that was quite the battle, GG. 

[Soreyes]

I don't know if this counts as a VC point or not.

Darth Death in a DN+ and Darth Soreyes in a DDL. Chased Steve Zodiac in a DN+,  off the map after inflicting heavy internal damage to his ship.

Darth Soreyes returned to space Dock after this great battle to celebrate by giving his Plasma and Phaser crews punch and pie.  The photon crew were beamed into space for failure to hit with one photon shot

[KBFLordKrueg]

4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.


DH gets one point for forcing off the DN in a 1v1...forcing a DN to disengage with 2-3 ships gets you nada...

[Soreyes]

Well it was Darth Death doing most of the damage to Steve Zodiac........ I was just the "Buzzing Gnat" flying around Zodiac

[ShadowLord]

Just to confirm

Darth Hertz Killed GarbageScow 1v1 (stupid fed ships dont like to HET )

GarbageScow Killed DarthSoreyes in a 1v1 but -- hell he was only in a small ship and I had a CF - well fought on your side..

GarbageScow
ShadowLord

[ShadowLord]

That is just a confirmation of Darth Hertz kill posted ealier -- its not a second kill for him..

In addtion is soreyes a Darth or a Jar Jar? Did he switch sides..? or are there two of them now?

GarbageScow
Duck

[Nemesis]

That is just a confirmation of Darth Hertz kill posted ealier -- its not a second kill for him..

In addtion is soreyes a Darth or a Jar Jar? Did he switch sides..? or are there two of them now?

GarbageScow
Duck

There is a Darth Soreyes AND a Jar Jar Soreyes.  There are several Darth/Jar Jar twins.

[Barack Beard]

That is just a confirmation of Darth Hertz kill posted ealier -- its not a second kill for him..

In addtion is soreyes a Darth or a Jar Jar? Did he switch sides..? or are there two of them now?

GarbageScow
Duck

Yes Meesa is no DARTH

guess someone wasn't reading our forums   

[Julin Eurthyr]

Information provided to me by Jar Jar Binks...

Meesa notice Darthy babies have LOS. Meesa decide to break it. Meesa flies me ship (F-CAR+ Meesa gonna DIE!!) to Sector 23,5. Meesa takes back for Gungan honor. Dumb Darthies attack it. Meesa take back again. Dumb Darthies take back again. Meesa attack it and fight DarthHexx.

Meesa side: Me ship F-CAR+ Meesa gonna DIE!!
AI: Z-CF, AI Z-FFE+

Darth Hexxies side: K-CF
AI: K-DDG, K-CC+

Meesa attacks K-CC+ and cripples it.

AI-Z-CF attacks DarthHexx (does 29 internals over course of battle) (Meesa do 39 more.)

DarthHexx attacks AI-Z-CF and Z-FFE+. Bad darth kill lovable little Z-FFE+

AI-K-DDG gettum killed in crossfire of all 3 good guys ships.

Bad DarthHexxie tryum TWO times to hittum me with scatterpack. Jar Jar no dummy. Jar Jar shootum down missles. Jar Jar defend with tractors. Jar Jar not gettum hurt.

DarthHexxie knowums he in trouble. Him run for time. Him doing okay until he'um try to "thread the needle" between two asteroids. Meesa thinks he trying to make Meesa AI-Z-CF hit asteroid and hittum big rock himself.

Himma tell me from life pod "decided I wasn't gonna let you kill me icon_wink.gif"

Meesa have message for DarthHexxie. Way you fly you make good Gungan.

[LordSaxon]

Destroyed Darth Wraith's CF Heavy cruiser in my DDL light cruiser Was a long, hard fought battle. GG <S>

[FPF-DieHard]

Killed Garbagscow's CF in my CF.   Towed him into a Black hole.

GG

[KHH_Mrogue]

GarbageScow's CF falls to DarthMrogue's CF and BLACKHOLE AI

That big blue swirlie thing is not good...  very very bad on ships Duck  LOL

[ShadowLord]

ugh -- confirming DH second kill and Mrogue kill - yesterday was a bad day for me with going into the black holes a total of 3 times -- two of them in 1v1 pvp missions ..

GG all
GarbageScow
ShadowLord

[KHH_Mrogue]

Kilroy's CF  falls to Darth_Mrogue's NCD...   gg  Kilroy 

[KBFLordKrueg]

NCD? Aren't those supposed to be restricted?
Thought all droners and escorts of CL class and above are not available...
DH said last night he noticed that Hexx forgot to restrict them and fixed it.
Maybe he failed to mention that if you bought one, you should get rid of it.
I think you need to sell that ship, Mrogue. 

[FPF-DieHard]

NCD? Aren't those supposed to be restricted?
Thought all droners and escorts of CL class and above are not available...
DH said last night he noticed that Hexx forgot to restrict them and fixed it.
Maybe he failed to mention that if you bought one, you should get rid of it.
I think you need to sell that ship, Mrogue. 

Nag hexx, I Specialed them out ;last night

EDIT:  Remoted into THOR and comfirmed, NCD is specialed out.   MRouge must have bought one before hand.

[KBFLordKrueg]

Ok, can someone let him know (and any others that got one before then) they need to get rid of it?
I wondered why suddenly so many swapped out CAs for CLs...

[Icehawk]

well the ncl+ is just as good as a cc+ and costs less probably

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

well the ncl+ is just as good as a cc+ and costs less probably

minus the inabilty to HET 100% and the labs for shield regen

[LordSaxon]

Forced a disengagment from a CF in my little DDL, any points for forcing a larger opponent to run like a schoolgirl?

[FPF-DieHard]

well the ncl+ is just as good as a cc+ and costs less probably

Not even close, CC+ can take a beating better than Tina Turner.   NCL has a glass-jaw

[FPF-DieHard]

Forced a disengagment from a CF in my little DDL, any points for forcing a larger opponent to run like a schoolgirl?

No, but you get bragging rights and a date with Kroma 

[KBF-Kurok]

Dark Helmet catches Jarr Jarr (cant rember wich one) deepstriking and kills him in a well fought  match. Cf aginst a DDL+.

[GDA-Agave]

In a very fun NEBULA battle, DarthSalacious in NCL+ killed SSCF-Hooch in FFE+

VGG MATCH SIR!!


DarthSalacious


P.S.   Shortly after that I flew like crap while I was flying wing with DarthHertz.   Sorry dude, I flew like a total newb in that mission.       Fired on wrong target, showed my down shield several times, all kinds of stupid things..........he was real happy with me.   

P.S.S.   I SHALL FIND YOU JarJarSalacious!!    After that, who knows!! 

[Doctor Lazarus]

Not sure if it's worth anything, but I killed Anti-palladins' carrier with my DNL. We each had 2 AIs in a very busy fight. Both ships are restricted in numbers, so I thought I would post in case. GG 

[GDA-S'Cipio]

P.S.S.   I SHALL FIND YOU JarJarSalacious!!    After that, who knows!! 

Yousa evil ways no match for truth and light.  Mesa gonna kill you.  All yousa base gonna die.

Jar Jar Salacious

[KBF-Reejr]

Reejr in a F-CF vs Darth Wraith in a F-DDL+ with ai F-NCL helper. CF wins and the 2 cl's go boom. gg Darth Wraith

[RFA-Wraith]

Darth Wraith in an F-CF def JarJar Soreyes in an F-CF. GG Soreyes

[Barack Beard]

Darth Wraith in an F-CF def JarJar Soreyes in an F-CF. GG Soreyes

Yup you got me fair and square but it was worth it as most if not all of your bases fell to my wing and I on that journey before you cut it short just 2 missions from home.

I think it was 8 bases but have to ask my wing to make sure  got tired of counting them after a while. 

[Capt Jeff]

In a !AF vs 1AF duel,  Darth C-Los'  NCL+  fell to my CC+.

See, Pesty tried to tell you about hull boxes the other day 


I wonder if C-Los is going to talk to me tonight at work.....LOL 

[Father Ted]

In a !AF vs 1AF duel,  Darth C-Los'  NCL+  fell to my CC+.

See, Pesty tried to tell you about hull boxes the other day 


I wonder if C-Los is going to talk to me tonight at work.....LOL 

Just mention T'Pol's cleavage, and all will be forgiven as C-Los melts away into his happy zone: "These are not the breasts you're looking for..." 

[LordSaxon]

Dark Helmet catches Jarr Jarr (cant rember wich one) deepstriking and kills him in a well fought  match. Cf aginst a DDL+.

That was me. Excellent game Kurok <S>

[Barack Beard]

Jar Jar Soreyes and Master Anubarak were drafted after some deepstriking by Darth Salicious.  Master Anubarak crashes out immediately as the mission starts leaving me alone with Darth Salicious. Luckily I had only used a couple of spares and only sustained light damage on the earlier missions and was in pretty good shape.  After a good fight Darth Salicious decided to self destruct rather than face potential capture.

Might not count as Anubarak was drafted too, although he didn't even make it into the mission.  He just went straight to desktop at draft.

Can I get a ruling from Hexx?

Oh and Darth Salicious a special message for you taped after the fight

http://www.starwarsjunkies.com/sounds/wavs/Salacious%20Crumb%20-%20(laughing).wav

<Snicker>

[Green]

Master Anubarak crashes out immediately as the mission starts leaving me alone with Darth Salicious.

Might not count as Anubarak was drafted too, although he didn't even make it into the mission. 

Coming from an apparently now fellow  lawyer ... I'm amazed you have to ask

4B)PvP rules
Your PvP kills are counted when you are the only player in a mission on your side.
If you have a wing and he drops then nothing is counted.

But yes, as usual , The Overlord's rules can be a bit misleading ... I also believe "what he meant to say" (practicing my lines as a future White House spokesman) "Once the battle starts, if a player drops/crashes, then...".  That would account for any fighting/manuevering that might occur if the solo player thought they were flying against 2 humans.

[Barack Beard]

Yup that was my question basically, does a player who is drafted but immediatly crases as the mission starts count as a wingamn since he took no action and affected no manuevering, and his ship appeared in mission only as a flash of white as it dissappeared before you could hit the red alert key the first instant of the mission.

[kilroy]

in a battle with darth tt.
had him tractored and he had no weapons left, was going to run him into the black hole when he left.
dont know if you had a prob or not, but he was done regardless.
so looking forward to that self destruct.
kilroy

[FPF-DieHard]

MasterSoth Falls to the Darkside GG!

PS:  I came SO close to falling in myself getting this screenshot 

[Father Ted]

Is that a DNL? I recognize that shovel saucer....

[FPF-DieHard]

Is that a DNL? I recognize that shovel saucer....

CF.  2 photons is enough for those who aren't compensating for somehting else . . .

[KBFLordKrueg]

Darth Gator's NCL+ caught deepstriking and was given a free ride home by my CC+.
GG, sir

[Barack Beard]

Is that a DNL? I recognize that shovel saucer....

CF.  2 photons is enough for those who aren't compensating for somehting else . . .

Especially fighting a hull class smaller 

[ShadowLord]

Ummm somebody tell me if this is worth a VP because -- According to the rules it may not be.



Last night MasterSteve (flying a DN) and GarbageScow (Flying a CF) vs
Pesty (CF) and DarthDeath (DN)

Both teams had an AI ...
GarbageScow and Steve managed to kill off the AI and both Terrin ships in a very well fought match.
Normally I would have though this was worth a VP for the kill of the DN -- based on it being an even match up of 2v2 -- however according to the rules you only get a VP for forcing a DN to run off .. does killing it count as making it run off?
I will let the rules lawyers figure that one I -- I am having to much flying to worry about getting upset over a vp or two.

Great game guys.. see you on the front lines soon.
GarbageScow
 

[Green]

 

As written, no VPs (of course making the other side lose a DN is at least a little consolation).

4B)PvP rules
Your PvP kills are counted when you are the only player in a mission on your side.

Kills scored while flying a DN do not count.

[ShadowLord]

No green I think you missed my point...

Based on the rules when ..had we made the DN exit the hex -- we would indeed get 1VP..

Rule 4C states

4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.

(I read rule 4C to mean that any DN or BCH hull that disengages in a 1v1 2v2 or 3v3 match gives up a VP to the other side)

so considering it was a 2v2 fight -- and both sides had DN's both sides could have lost a VP..\
Where the contention might be is that -- we killed the DN instead of having it disengage ..Now I would think killing it -- is the same as forcing it to disengage but like I said it isnt worth getting in a pissing war over -- its only 1 vp were dealing with -- but for a matter of future reference it would be good to know.

Hope that helps to clerify the gray area I was looking at..

GarbageScow

[FPF-DieHard]

The rule is to encourage DN pilots to fly with a pair of balls.

[ShadowLord]

Yea I can see that and think it works..

I guess that according to the actual wording of the rule itself -- there should be no VP awarded because it was killed?
This is going to make life interesting when we start flying BCH hulls next week.. Loose your ship and the PP -- or fly off the map and cost your team a VP..

Interesting rule -- can't wait to see how it plays out next week.

[GDA-Agave]

Jar Jar Soreyes and Master Anubarak were drafted after some deepstriking by Darth Salicious.  Master Anubarak crashes out immediately as the mission starts leaving me alone with Darth Salicious. Luckily I had only used a couple of spares and only sustained light damage on the earlier missions and was in pretty good shape.  After a good fight Darth Salicious decided to self destruct rather than face potential capture.

Might not count as Anubarak was drafted too, although he didn't even make it into the mission.  He just went straight to desktop at draft.

As the pilot destroyed in this mission, I think this should count as a kill.  The stated rule on a wingman dropping would only seem to apply if he has had ANY impact on the battle.  In this case, he did not.   He never made into the mission.   Yes, he was drafted, but he crashed out directly to desktop.  It was never a 2v1 match.

Please count as a kill.   

(ship details) JarJarSoreyes CF killed my CF.


DarthSalacious

[FPF-Paladin]

Jar Jar Soreyes and Master Anubarak were drafted after some deepstriking by Darth Salicious.  Master Anubarak crashes out immediately as the mission starts leaving me alone with Darth Salicious. Luckily I had only used a couple of spares and only sustained light damage on the earlier missions and was in pretty good shape.  After a good fight Darth Salicious decided to self destruct rather than face potential capture.

Might not count as Anubarak was drafted too, although he didn't even make it into the mission.  He just went straight to desktop at draft.

As the pilot destroyed in this mission, I think this should count as a kill.  The stated rule on a wingman dropping would only seem to apply if he has had ANY impact on the battle.  In this case, he did not.   He never made into the mission.   Yes, he was drafted, but he crashed out directly to desktop.  It was never a 2v1 match.

Please count as a kill.   

(ship details) JarJarSoreyes CF killed my CF.


DarthSalacious

 

+1 Karma, I respect that sort of sportsmanship.

[Barack Beard]

+1 from me as well, although Agave knows he has my lifelong respect already, as we've only known each other for over 20 years 

This is the kinda of thing I've come to expect from him, and he has always been tops in sportsmanship.

[Green]

I guess that according to the actual wording of the rule itself -- there should be no VP awarded because it was killed?

Correct, that is what I was posting/saying

This is going to make life interesting when we start flying BCH hulls next week.. Loose your ship and the PP -- or fly off the map and cost your team a VP..
Interesting rule -- can't wait to see how it plays out next week.

True, a bit weird ... but many of the rules are, shall we say, unique and offer some different ideas.  I think Hexx may have put it in place to strongly encourage players to stick around and fight vs leaving. 

[FPF-DrAzteca]

Pestalence'CF kill by DrAzteca's CF.

VGG Sir.

[Barack Beard]

Darth Wraith's CF falls to my CF

GG

[ShadowLord]

Caught Pesty on a deep stirke cf to cf -- pesty went down (probably had limited supplies on him)

GG sir

GarbageScow

[FPF-DieHard]

Not worthany point but Dax, um . . . , I mean Zodiac and Duck owned me and Pesty last night.

First DN I lost since Storm season 2(fracking Maverick . . . )

GG

[Barack Beard]

Not worthany point but Dax, um . . . , I mean Zodiac and Duck owned me and Pesty last night.

First DN I lost since Storm season 2(fracking Maverick . . . )

GG

Funny, but aafter that loss the name Maverick was heard a bit on our voice comms   

[FPF-DieHard]

Firefox in a CC+ killed Obi Wan Ben in a CLC

[TheJudge]

Did anyone get a pic of me blowing up in that blackhole?  My Boyfriend wants a copy of it so he can print it out at work and give it to a few people who know me and my ego.


(Never date someone who works for the California Democratic Party and who knows people who knew you in college...it gets a little vicious at times.)

[ShadowLord]

Hard fought battle with two AI for Judge and GarbageScow -- The scow came out on top and the judge will be looking for justice...

GG Judge

GarbageScow

[Greywuf]

Jar Jar Soreyes in a CF valiantly went toe to toe with Darth Greywuf's CB "Stalin" in furiously fought match.  Songs will be written of the hail of transporter bombs and phaser fire that tore through the Stalin's bulkheads before my scatter pack tipped the battle in favor of the dark side.

 My weapons officer got reaquianted with his agonizer for firing phasers rather than activating our tractor beam to salvage your ship. 

Great game Cmdr! <S>

[Barack Beard]

Great Game indeead, but it wasn't the scatterpack that tilted the balance you had me at that point all but dead, the reward should go to your impressive marines and their hit and run raids 

[Kaz]

Kaz killed Reejr in a 1v1  NCV vs CF

[ShadowLord]

GarbageScow in a clc beats DarthMrouge in a clc -- nebula fight -- drones won the day for the GarbageScow

GG

(and then Scow upgrades to a CB  -- and gets his arse kicked so badly by a carrier --- DarthRed I think it was -- in a soon to be posted 1v1 kill for him -- )

GG DD

[Green]

(and then Scow upgrades to a CB  -- and gets his arse kicked so badly by a carrier --- DarthRed I think it was -- in a soon to be posted 1v1 kill for him -- )

GG GarbageScowl.  DarthRed's NCV defeats GarbageScowl's CB in a 1v1.  The Tie fighters made a disturbance in the force.

[KBFLordKrueg]

Mark...

[Barack Beard]

DarthDead's CB falls to my CLC and NCA ai helper, the ai made the difference, I had one and he didn't.

[Barack Beard]

DarthLos will now be flying the Black Scorpion III as his DDL+ Black Scorpion II found my CLC in the nebulas

GG Bro, fought with heart and guts <S>

[Soreyes]

Had a little battle earlier with Master Soth. I was in a NAL and Soth was in a NCV. Soth just kicked the Crud out of my ship and I ran. It was not till later that I realized that I could not run. So since I was down to 1/2 hull, no spars, no more T-bombs, no More drones, and at least 4 hexes deep in Fed space. When I get back on the server later this morning I will SD my ship......Can I get a Witness

Very Good Game Master Soth........Your #^&$*#@ F-15s would have blown me up on your next pass if I stuck around

[LordSaxon]

Destroyed Darth Death's BCE in my CB. I was able to find him low on supplies yet he stayed to fight to the end. Salute to a warrior <S>.

[ShadowLord]

Under the rules -- the BCE would have lost a VP had it chosen to flee the battle....

I still respect the man for choosing to stick around and fight it out as well..

Good for him.

GarbageScow

BTW...I would be interested in knowing what ship/hull the BCH gets downgraded to after a death..

[Dfly]

the BCE got me a great big CAR+, woopie.  GG Lord Saxon.  You caught me with no repair, no mines, low on shuttles.  In fact, I did not even use a shuttle vs you lol.  I shoulda just dropped them for fodder, not that you would spend much on them.  I had not realised the BCE was a VP for running, I stayed for the Honor of the battle of the Klingons, err , emmm, Darth Feds I mean.

[Kaz]

Kaz defeats the honorable Garbage Scow in a 1v1 BCG vs BCG
 VGG!

[Mutilator]

Darth Gator's FFER and AI killed Jarr Jarr Kannibale DDL+ and AI Was a nasty little fight GG <S>

[Dfly]

Not a kill, but an excellent battle none the less, Master Julin leaves in his CLC heavily damaged, vs my damaged DD+ in a neb.

VGG.

[LordSaxon]

Destroyed DarthLear's CLC w/ my CB. GG <S>
Destroyed DartGator's FFER simultaneously as my DDL was evaporated. Was a nasty exchange of fire It was a 2v1 W/ HohHoch on the Darth side.

[Julin Eurthyr]

Not a kill, but an excellent battle none the less, Master Julin leaves in his CLC heavily damaged, vs my damaged DD+ in a neb.

VGG.

You had a DDL+.  It was the plasma that made the difference...

That was a nice fight though...   

[KBF-Reejr]

Reejr in a F-Nal with an ai F-DWC vs Darth Kaz in a F-Nal with a Rom ai R-SKA. They killed my ai helper then I killed Kaz in a good ole head on game of chicken which I did more damage to him then he did to me. Then I killed his ai helper. vgg Kaz didn't think I could win that one when you took out my helper so fast.....dumbass ai goes charging into both of you before I could get up there...lol

[ShadowLord]

Confirming Kaz kill -- what a game - I was way ahead early in the game -- then I got popped by some drones and life went in the crapper...good for him in not giving up the battle when I had the early lead..

Only thing that pissed me off was the server dropped shortly after this battle so I was unable to redeem myself last night..

GG kaz

See you on the battlefield.

GarbageScow

[Nemesis]

Jar Jar Binks:

Meesa was flying around in that Red zone blowing up some bases.  Them bases was defended by BIG ships.  My side sendum me pirate frigates and police ships to help my F-CLC attack bases.  Darthys send Battleships and Dreadnought.  Make it hard.  Me poor little ship take damage and use all supplies up.

Then meesa was just flying around and mean ol Darth Mrogue show up in fresh CLC.  Meesa do some damage but himma kill me ship.  Meesa need new CLC.

[KHH_Mrogue]

Taking advantage of low supplies and a fatigued crew,  Darth Mrogue's CLC destroys JarJarBinks' CLC deep striking...

I knew once I took down a shield or two on ya, I could pick ya off from a distance...

GG JarJarBinks

Ya Snicky Long Ear

[Dfly]

Not a kill, but an excellent battle none the less, Master Julin leaves in his CLC heavily damaged, vs my damaged DD+ in a neb.

VGG.

You had a DDL+.  It was the plasma that made the difference...

That was a nice fight though...   

My appologies, I missed the L in DDL+ without realising it. 

[KBFLordKrueg]

In separate engagements, killed Pesty in a BCG and Kaz in a CLC with my NCV.
Caught them both deepstriking...

Soth was drafted accidentally in the mission with Kaz, but since we were both in carriers, Soth disengaged immediately without firing, permitting me the glory of the kill. Kudos for that, sir. 

Engaged Pesty just before that in a different hex in a CLC, where he killed me. Made up for it the next mission when he drafted me on the base he was trying to hit, fortunately, my NCV came in only moments before he drafted me.

VGGs all...

[KBF-Reejr]

Reejr in a F-CLC vs Pestalence in a K-CLC....Luck was on the side of the good feds...      .....  bad fed dies.....GG Pestalence.....

[KBF-Reejr]

Reejr in a F-CLC vs Darth Death in a K-DDL+...... Death goes boom ......gg DarthDeath...........

[KBF-Reejr]

Reejr in a F-CLC vs Someguyondrugs in a K-BCF...good feds win....bcf goes boom....gg Someguyondrugs......I was on drugs at the time....lol

[ShadowLord]

Caught Pesty on a deep strike -- his CLC just didn't have the firepower to beat a BCG

GG

GarbageScow

[KBFLordKrueg]

Mark...

[Nemesis]

Jar Jar Binks:

Meesa see someone attacking blue space nebulas.  Meesa go there and wait in my F-CLC (Meesa gonna DIE!!) for them to come back.  Darth Death come along in his K-DDL.  Buncha AI on each side. 

Weesa dance around for a while and himms AI dies.  Meesa AI gets hurt real bad.  Him fight well.  Him actually outfly meesa in the beginning.  Then meesa say "turn off theesa Photons, them no hit anyhow".  That leava me nough power for phasers and EW.  Then slowly himmsa gets hurt.  Himma ship slowly dieing.

Once himmas ship crippled beyond hope meesa offer letta him disengage.   Him no coulda survive if meesa not let him go. 

But himma did good job and deserve to be allowed to disengage.

[Dfly]

TY Jar Jar Binks for the honorable flight, the win goes to you. 

[Dfly]

MasterAnarubak's BCF goes down to me NCC with BCF AI


After a lenghy and exhaustive chase by the bullies in blue , they finally tracked down DH and myself, who were minding our own business whlie flying the friendly blue skies .  More chases insued as DH and I went our own seperate ways after several failed attempts by the men in blue to hold us up (due to games not holding) . 
We were both still harrassed by those silly men in blue , till one guy called MasterAnarubak(hope I spelled it right) finally caught me in his BCF vs my NCC.  As luck would have it, I also had an AI BCF.  after a few blows being traded off, Master had me on the ropes, chasing me, with my rear shielding gone and phasers hurting me.  I managed to drop his front and inflict some minimal damage, that is, till I managed to fly back to the BCF AI .  Master did a masterfull job of flying into the arcs of the BCF weapons and getting hurt good .  Then it was just a matter of time for the AI to finish him off while i longranged and repaired, knowing I would be facing many more battles before I see home again.  Fear not, for the very NEXT mission put me vs a DNL AI, which with my damaged NCC, I could not overcome .

VGG and Great effort on your part to chase me down, and fight me even with my having an AI. 

[Bartok]

Though more of a slaughter than a kill I wanted to report falling to GarbageScow(?)  and Jedi Fett yesterday evening EST.  My first PvP in this campaign and in fact since 2002.....  I got blowed up good....

Critical system to have engaged when in PvP that I COMPLETELY forgot about.....  tractors on repel to avoid the anchor....

I was in a CLC,  GarbageScow was in a BCF and Jedi Fett in a CLC....

I love swimming in the currents of a black hole.  GG Guys, sorry I didn't last longer - still woulda got slammed, but woulda been more fun for both;)

Cheers,

Darth Bartok

for giggles, I've attached the .rec file in zip for any that are interested

[KBFLordKrueg]

DarthDarthBinks caught in his CLC deepstriking and destroyed by my CLC.
gg...

[Pestalence_XC]

Last night, reported for Firefox :

Firefox (BCF) killed Jarr Jarr Kannible (BCF)

Firefox (BCF) killed Jarr Jarr Kannible (CLC) and Jar Jar Mantis (CLC)

[ShadowLord]

Bit of a gray area here but I think DH gets a VP for running me off the map..

DH in a DNH vs GarbageScow in a BCF... played around the black hole for 20 min and figured I had no way of winning -- I left the map which I belive gives DH one VP for forcing a BCH off the map?

Had I stayed and died  no VP would have been given.. as DH was in a dread..

Is this the correct intrepretation of the rules?

GG DH

GarbageScow

[KBFLordKrueg]

Correct, no kills can be scored period in a DN. But BCHs are also never worth Kill VPs, unless run off in an even fight. Dying in a BCH, irrigardless of the odds, will gain no one any VPs, only disengagements in a BCH yield VPs.

[ShadowLord]

LK

I think your last line should have read --

Kills in a DN will never count for VP's

You can still collect VP's for killing PVP using BCH hulls and you can loose VP's for flying off the map in BCH hulls.

GarbageScow

[KBFLordKrueg]

LK

I think your last line should have read --

Kills in a DN will never count for VP's

You can still collect VP's for killing PVP using BCH hulls and you can loose VP's for flying off the map in BCH hulls.

GarbageScow

Yeah, yeah...it's still early and I haven't had my RDA of coffee...

[Mazeppa]

Correct, no kills can be scored period in a DN. But BCHs are also never worth Kill VPs, unless run off in an even fight. Dying in a BCH, irrigardless of the odds, will gain no one any VPs, only disengagements in a BCH yield VPs.

4B)PvP rules
Your PvP kills are counted when you are the only player in a mission on your side.
If you have a wing and he drops then nothing is counted.
You score one point per kill posted in a thread for PvP kills.
Kills scored while flying a DN do not count.
-You must survive the fight to claim a kill. Killing one player then leaving the map is permissable.
Killing one pleyer then dying means you may not claim a kill.
4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.

4D)No ship with Limited numbers (DN's/Carriers) may wing together. If you find yourself drafted one of you
must leave.

46b) Always tow Darth J'inn to the border
46b1) 1VP awarded for screenshot of DArth J'inn thanking you for sparing his life (after tow to border) and you
killing him before he can actually warp off.

Did you type BCH when you meant DN?  It looks like BCH kills and disengagements count for a point.

[ShadowLord]

Don't worry zep I already corrected him -- you know officers can't trust them to do anything correctly..now what name are you flying under? Lets get some fair ships and go to town!!!

GarbageScow
ShadowLord

[LordSaxon]

Destroyed DarthHelmet 1v1, CF vs. CF.

[KBFLordKrueg]

 

[Pestalence_XC]

Correct, no kills can be scored period in a DN. But BCHs are also never worth Kill VPs, unless run off in an even fight. Dying in a BCH, irrigardless of the odds, will gain no one any VPs, only disengagements in a BCH yield VPs.

4B)PvP rules
Your PvP kills are counted when you are the only player in a mission on your side.
If you have a wing and he drops then nothing is counted.
You score one point per kill posted in a thread for PvP kills.
Kills scored while flying a DN do not count.
-You must survive the fight to claim a kill. Killing one player then leaving the map is permissable.
Killing one pleyer then dying means you may not claim a kill.
4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.

4D)No ship with Limited numbers (DN's/Carriers) may wing together. If you find yourself drafted one of you
must leave.

46b) Always tow Darth J'inn to the border
46b1) 1VP awarded for screenshot of DArth J'inn thanking you for sparing his life (after tow to border) and you
killing him before he can actually warp off.

Did you type BCH when you meant DN?  It looks like BCH kills and disengagements count for a point.

DN's count for nothing (including killing, being killed by).. 

a BCH killing someone counts for nothing.. a BCH being killed by you counts for nothing... only a score mark to become a top player to get VC's at end of server and only in 1 vs 1 battle.

making a DN or a BCH Disenge counts for a VC.. only in a 1 vs 1 PVP

killing someone while you are flying a DN counts for nothing.. not even a PVP score count.

PVP 1 on 1 in any ship from Carrier down (DN's not included) counts for points to rack up on PVP in order to gain a VC as listed per rules by the chart.

-Being the top PVP player 25
-Being PvP player #2         15
-Being PvP player #3         10
-Being PvP player#4          05

Now you only get VC scores for the above chart if you are one of the top 4 players in 1 vs 1 Non-DN PVP matches (meaning the victor of the matches is not flying a DN)..

[FPF-DieHard]

Not worth anything but . . . .

Jar Jar Sore eyes's F-DNH drafted me in a wounded K-DNH after 3 hours of deepstriking.

GG  

[Mazeppa]

Don't worry zep I already corrected him -- you know officers can't trust them to do anything correctly..now what name are you flying under? Lets get some fair ships and go to town!!!

GarbageScow
ShadowLord

I'm flying as Firefox.  So far, I've got four kills, and I have not played that much.  I find this a bit odd, because I never saw myself as a very good Fed pilot.  But I remember the last time I flew Fed with Castrin's Rebel Knights, I did pretty well.  Somebody made the rather irksome comment on chat last night that I have probably been flying the wrong race since 1999......Geez, I might have had a stunning career with the 3rd Fleet. 

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Can you castle? 

formerly 3rd-TobinDax

[ShadowLord]

OMG now I am confused

PESTY are you saying BCH kills don't count -- I didn't see anything in the rules about that..only while flying a DN does your kill not count

If your 1v1 in a BCH it counts as a kill -- at least I belive it does please let me know if I am wrong..(towards total number of kills at end of server --)

I have thought that BCH kills count and BCH disengagements count..

Jeeze seems to be a lot of confusion on this topic with only a few days left on the server..(or it could be just me?)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK reread your post and think I read it correctly this time -- BCH kills do not account for VP by themselves but do count towards the total number of kills you have at the end of the server where the top players will be awarded VP .. Correct?
WHEW --
GarbageScow

[FPF-DieHard]

. . . Somebody made the rather irksome comment on chat last night that I have probably been flying the wrong race since 1999......Geez, I might have had a stunning career with the 3rd Fleet. 

<Whistles innocently . . . >

[Mazeppa]

Can you castle?

Former 3rd-TobinDax

I had the quick course from Phoenix, and read up on castling on various fleet boards during my SL days. Of course, my motivation for the study was to learn how to break the castle, but we had to learn how the Fed ships (Mostly BCF) flew, and what to expect  In MoK, we spent a fair amount of time practicing C-7 versus BCF battles.  I beat Seki three times straight one night while flying a castling BCF against his C-7.  I have the theory, but have yet to put it to a real test in a long time.  One of the things we learned was the Fed pilot had to know when to castle, and when to fight at faster speeds, and trust your hull and shield regeneration.  

You understand, Fed versus Fed is a very different battle indeed than what most Feds have to face.  The biggest problem for the castling BCF against the C-7 is the missile wave.  BCF against BCF, that is not an issue

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Fed vs fed = knife fight usually and timing and dice rolls. There were so many feds fleets, that i used to see a lot of this.

[KBFLordKrueg]

OMG now I am confused

PESTY are you saying BCH kills don't count -- I didn't see anything in the rules about that..only while flying a DN does your kill not count

If your 1v1 in a BCH it counts as a kill -- at least I belive it does please let me know if I am wrong..

I have thought that BCH kills count and BCH disengagements count..

Jeeze seems to be a lot of confusion on this topic with only a few days left on the server..(or it could be just me?)

GarbageScow

You still get a mark (not a VP) for getting a kill while in a BCH, affecting your total Kill for the "Top Gun" awards, which are worth additional VCs. But no additional VPs are awarded, unless you kill a DN.  
And if you die while in a BCH, No VPs are awarded, but the player who killed you gets a mark towards his total kills.
If you RUN while in a BCH, in an even numbered (1v1) match, THEN a VPs is awarded to the player that forced you to disengage...
OK?
I think that's what he meant...

[Mazeppa]

Fed vs fed = knife fight usually and timing and dice rolls. There were so many feds fleets, that i used to see a lot of this.

Yeah, but the Dynaverse Feds that did not play ladder may find flying against Fed a new experience.

[ShadowLord]

Zep must be flying in a Mini and wearing his CFM pumps again..




Duck

[FPF-DieHard]

Yeah, but the Dynaverse Feds that did not play ladder may find flying against Fed a new experience.

Yup, never did it before.  It has been very brutal

[Pestalence_XC]

OK reread your post and think I read it correctly this time -- BCH kills do not account for VP by themselves but do count towards the total number of kills you have at the end of the server where the top players will be awarded VP .. Correct?
WHEW --
GarbageScow

Correct.. Killing a BCH is not a VC, but does give a score mark for total PVP kills... so long as your in a carrier on down (seeing Carriers being a step above the BCH and just below DN).. Only running a BCH off the map counts as a VC.

You still get a mark (not a VP) for getting a kill while in a BCH, affecting your total Kill for the "Top Gun" awards, which are worth additional VCs. But no additional VPs are awarded, unless you kill a DN.

Um only to correct the last part of this statement.. there is no VC for killing a DN, only a VC when you make the DN leave the map.


Killing anything when you are flying a DN counts for nothing, not even PVP score.

[ShadowLord]

A battle Royal --

GarbageScow in a BCF with AI helper
VS
FireFox in a BCF with AI helper -

Unreal intense combat --- my arm was shaking after the battle == just about every tactic I could think of was used by the two players to gain and edge -- the battle changed hands a few times but I got lucky with one massive hit that (a guess here only) required firefox to use a number of repairs on engines while I split my reprirs between weapons and engines -- both ships were flying around at top speed (between 10-and 17) in the later stages of the game to avoid plasma F

FireFox was forced to leave the map -=

No kill awarded but the feds gain a VP for the exit

I hope he saved the film -- its a classic..

VGG Bro
GarbageScow

[Mazeppa]

VGG to you also, my Klingon Brother!

I've never flown against ShadowLord in a serious match.  Flown with him a lot, in GZ and the dyna, though.  I also knew that we may not hav an opportinith to fly against each other for quite some time, so it was a unique opportunity.  Duck is truly one of the elite players in this game, and when I drafted him, I knew I was in for a very tough match.

We were in a black hole, and duck was doing a masterful job of using the black hole to try and gain an advantage.  it was a great battle, well fought, and I was drained when it was over.  Darn it, I got run off. 

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Gargbage Scow's BCF defeated by Darth Darth Bink's CB.

[ShadowLord]

lets not forget those two rommie ai's in the defeat of my BCF vs the CB

GG man

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

*snicker*

I know... blame hexx, not me.

[Dfly]

My CB during a deepstrike took on MasterSoth in a HDWC1.  He stayed till the end, hoping to damage me enough to force me to use up precious supplies in a well fought game.  His 4 fighters were a pain to say the least, but luckily no real damage to me before I dispatched him.

VGG.

PS. not sure if the CB gets a VP for the kill.

[FPF-DrAzteca]

Darth Death's CB killed by DrAzteca's CB.
VGG!

[KBFLordKrueg]

Caught Darth Darth Binks deepstriking in his CB with my CLC and gave him a free ride back to his home space. 
GG....

[Doctor Lazarus]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us. 

[ShadowLord]

Considering  how outgunned they were -- they did a really masterfull job of flying.

GG

GarbageScow

[Mutilator]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us. 

Aye it was a very good game sorry for the confusion at the end of it. Also wish we offered a better fight on the lower path, I screwed that one up big time Port and starboard markings on those fed ships hard for me old peepers  . Ah so much PP so little time. Muhaha! 

GGS Gents.

[KBFLordKrueg]

 

[Pestalence_XC]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us.

I don't think this gets a VC.. it was a 2 vs 2, so counts for nothing and flying a DN automatically removes a chance for Player points of any sort... however this is something Hexx has to rule on...

the VC and PVP points are for 1 vs 1 matches by the way I read the rules and the DN gets nothing for VC my making kills.. the BCH leaving for a VC IMHO would only fall under a match using equal number of ships with no one in a DN...

Hexx.. ruling on this????

[FPF-Paladin]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us.

I don't think this gets a VC.. it was a 2 vs 2, so counts for nothing and flying a DN automatically removes a chance for Player points of any sort... however this is something Hexx has to rule on...

the VC and PVP points are for 1 vs 1 matches by the way I read the rules and the DN gets nothing for VC my making kills.. the BCH leaving for a VC IMHO would only fall under a match using equal number of ships with no one in a DN...

Hexx.. ruling on this????

This is also my understanding of it... *looks around*  .. Hexx?

[Barack Beard]

Kills scored while flying a DN do not count.


4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.

A kill and a disengage are different, thus a BCH disengaging from a DN or DN / other ship combo would give up a VC but one dying to a DN does not, it just costs alot of PP

[Green]

Kills scored while flying a DN do not count.


4C)Any DN or BCH that disengages in an even numbered fight gives up 1 VP to the other side.

A kill and a disengage are different, thus a BCH disengaging from a DN or DN / other ship combo would give up a VC but one dying to a DN does not, it just costs alot of PP

Correct.  It doesn't count towards the "kill" list (for 1st-4th place).  But since rule 4C is seperate, and one of the few clearly written rules, it does count as 1 VC.

[Pestalence_XC]

I'm cool with that.. it just wasn't clear to me... I was incorporating the other rules as well...

[Julin Eurthyr]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us. 

According to the rules:
4B: As this is a 2 on 2, the flying solo requirement isn't met.  Also, since Steve Zodiac had a DNH, the other part of 4B, concerning all kills scored in a DN, would apply.  This fight does not count on the kill lists.

4C: This is a 2 on 2 fight.  As a BCH (specifically, BCF) disengaged from an even-strength battle, there is a VC to be scored.  4C doesn't reference any of 4B's limitations, nor does it mention BPV inequities etc.

Final tally: no kill point, 1 VC to Federation

[Green]

STEVE ZODIAC in a DNH and GARBAGESCOW in a BCG destroy DARTH GATORS' BCF and send WARP 10s' BCF out the taco bell drive thru for 1 VC. Very good game Gents. You made it very difficult for us. 

According to the rules:
4B: As this is a 2 on 2, the flying solo requirement isn't met.  Also, since Steve Zodiac had a DNH, the other part of 4B, concerning all kills scored in a DN, would apply.  This fight does not count on the kill lists.

4C: This is a 2 on 2 fight.  As a BCH (specifically, BCF) disengaged from an even-strength battle, there is a VC to be scored.  4C doesn't reference any of 4B's limitations, nor does it mention BPV inequities etc.

Final tally: no kill point, 1 VC to Federation

That's what we said ...

[ShadowLord]

Almost a counter balance situation here whichever way you want to rule it as --

Earlier I posted that DH gets a VP for forcing my BCF off the map -

In this post Steve and I get a VP for forcing a BCF off the map in a 2v2 situation
At least when I flew against FIreFOx it was a BCF to BCF match and he left the map so there is no "gray area" about that one.

In the fist instance DH was flying a dread, in the second instance Steve had a dread -=- both sides are getting a VP for forcing a BCH hull off the map and both sides had DN involved in those battles..

Yea I would go ahead and give out the VP for disengagement...

GarbageScow

(So if steve and garbage scow don't get a vp for their game --DH won't get one either for the time I left the map)