Topic: The Ultimate Sacrifice (D2 wise) (Read 10700 times)

Hexx · « **on:** April 16, 2005, 07:51:18 pm »

In an effort to actually get people to fly with others, maybe even talk and see that we're all pretty much the same.
I'm toying with the idea of a draft for Mirror²

What I want to know is

Will you fly on Mirror² if there is a draft?

I'd just like everyone who would be willing to sign up for a draft- to play the game no matter who you're flying with
to post here.

Thanks

Kroma BaSyl · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2005, 07:59:23 pm »

yes

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #2 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:00:04 pm »

Yeah, I'd do a draft. I certainly don't care who I fly with for the most part, one of the reasons I never really bothered to join a fleet. I just want to have fun fighting the good fight.

drb · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:03:53 pm »

Hoi Hexx,

Yes.

Take care

drb

Corbomite · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:09:58 pm »

What kind of beer is it?

Pojo92 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:29:20 pm »

IndyShark · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:34:02 pm »

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:34:11 pm »

Age · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2005, 08:59:22 pm »

Yes.However everyone would have to get the some voice comms and I would suggest TS.This way they only have one on their system.

KBFLordKrueg · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:04:48 pm »

FPF-DrAzteca · « **Reply #10 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:06:07 pm »

Yes

likkerpig · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:18:40 pm »

*hic*
shure, whaaaatever you say baby!
*hic*
mmm, beer and clam....
*hic*

Mazeppa · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:31:35 pm »

Quote from: Age on April 16, 2005, 08:59:22 pm

Yes.However everyone would have to get the some voice comms and I would suggest TS.This way they only have one on their system.

Yes.

For some bizarre reason, some folks can't use VT, some can't use Teamspeak. Really depends on what sound card or motherboard sound you use.

I still don't know why we ever left Battlecomm. Worked great, even for modem users.

Father Ted · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:34:48 pm »

Quote from: likkerpig on April 16, 2005, 09:18:40 pm

*hic*
shure, whaaaatever you say baby!
*hic*
mmm, beer and clam....
*hic*

Moriarity, what's with all the negative waves?

likkerpig · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2005, 09:54:26 pm »

No negative waves baby... just stop putting paint rounds in the ready racks would ya?
*hic*

FPF-Jem · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2005, 12:48:58 am »

Draft has never been a problem for me.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2005, 12:53:02 am »

I had hoped to play imperial...but I just wanna play...

So...Yes...but for the love of kahless...blind draw...no trades...and YOU pick faction leaders...

BTW..I'm another person TS crashes out on...while VT workd just fine...*shrug*

deadmansix · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2005, 01:19:09 am »

you bet as long as I get to at least T-bomb Hexx

Corbomite · « **Reply #18 on:** April 17, 2005, 01:57:05 am »

Quote from: Mazeppa on April 16, 2005, 09:31:35 pm

I still don't know why we ever left Battlecomm. Worked great, even for modem users.

Word! I still have it. I thought it was the best of the lot.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2005, 02:10:18 am »

Yeppers

Soreyes · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2005, 03:08:10 am »

KBFLordKrueg · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2005, 04:08:45 am »

Quote from: Corbomite on April 17, 2005, 01:57:05 am

Quote from: Mazeppa on April 16, 2005, 09:31:35 pm
I still don't know why we ever left Battlecomm. Worked great, even for modem users.

Word! I still have it. I thought it was the best of the lot.

I agree. Although, after using both TS and VT and still using both, running both at the same time even to communicate with all pilots, still think VT has superior vioce quality and better features.
Just, my HPO...

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2005, 04:57:44 am »

I don't mind using VT myself, except that I'm one of the lucky few that has to reset my audio device after a couple of folks talk before I can broadcast. Other than that folks come over it nicely, just annoying to have to use the hotkey and wait for it to respond (takes a second but I get a nice ping when it's done) before I can talk. Oh, well. Haven't had any luck running both at the same time and being able to broadcast, always says my audio device is in use.

Capt Jeff · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2005, 05:13:33 am »

Father Ted · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2005, 07:49:21 am »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on April 17, 2005, 12:53:02 am

So...Yes...but for the love of kahless...blind draw...no trades...and YOU pick faction leaders...

Ditto. No backroom dealings and no horsetrading, and a draft works for me.

Green · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2005, 08:09:06 am »

WarSears · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:43:49 am »

Count me in.

C-Los · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2005, 10:12:55 am »

No problems here...

Have to see how the server is set up though..."Sorry" Just tired of the OOB thingy !!

Julin Eurthyr · « **Reply #28 on:** April 17, 2005, 10:25:05 am »

I'm in.

Glad to hear this will be a typical 2-sided server, while still trying out other concepts...

I'm even willing to reprise my role as RM / Strategic Commander for a side, and I promise to follow all the rules, such as completly blind draft (where nobody sees my draft list except the draft manager and possibly my A/RMs), No trades, which includes consulting with the other house leaders pre-draft to attempt to ensure that certain players are on the same house, unless the draft is designed to allocate entire fleet-blocks, no politics (which is hard on a 2-sided server), etc. etc.

I just ask that you post the rules clearly prior to the main signup phase actually begins so that those who sign up know what they're getting into...

Dfly · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2005, 10:48:10 am »

Yes

And I have no problem with VT or TS and can run both simutaniously. Also have RW(outdated now) and BC(probably outdated), as well as Sidewinder.

Age · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2005, 12:06:11 pm »

The reason I mentioned TS is becuase some of us have small HDs and only would want one program on our systems The D3ers use TS as well as Cugs and UAW in which I intend to play on all of them.I am just trying to simplify it that is all and if it works for D3 , Cugs and UaW why not use TS atleast we would have better way to communicate between the RM/ARMs and Server Admins.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2005, 01:52:46 pm »

I'm supportive of trying a blind draft and it wouldn't deter my participation in any server. I especially don't see it as an issue if the shiplist is identical.

Can't say that I'm in or not on the server yet, however as I have to look at the other settings. I've gotten involved in other games now and am picking and choosing servers with some care, and wouldn't want to sign up for a draft if I was not going to put in a certain amount of time.

KBF-Kurok · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2005, 01:56:21 pm »

no problems here as for team speak. i have used it and am on 56k in order for me to play using it i have to turn the BW down so far it sounds like crap and is hard to understand,I have battle com and vt and can probably dig up rw if need be.

Green · « **Reply #33 on:** April 17, 2005, 02:04:48 pm »

Seems like voice chat is a pretty major factor (understandably so). I can use VT or TS w/ no problem, but it others can't for whatever reason (and there are valid reasons). Did you want that to be considered also Hexx?

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #34 on:** April 17, 2005, 02:15:43 pm »

Good point Green, I can also use both but have the newer version of Ventrilo installed for my other gaming community and I dont think the 2 are compatible, would kinda suck to play without voice comms.

Nemesis · « **Reply #35 on:** April 17, 2005, 02:58:30 pm »

After all the allegations concerning the Klingon civil war server. I think that for a draft to work it will have to be public. A list of all pilots followed by a RM by RM sequential draft choice.

Hexx · « **Reply #36 on:** April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm »

I'd like to thank everyone for actually agreeing to sign up for it so far.
(C'mon You know Captain Natas wants to play)
I didn't realize the voice coms were a make or break for so many people, it may affect the outcome.
I'll think about it
ATM it will likely be a blind draft, it may simpley involve me assigning every player a number and then divying them up somehow.
It will not be a publicly announced draft, simply due to the fact that I'm not going to run a server where someone is publicly drafted
second last. (cuz we all know who last will be...

bastards..)
I know most of you can run either or, maybe the people who can run one or the other will sit out of the initial draft until the 2 leaders
decide who will use what. (Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

KBF-Reejr · « **Reply #37 on:** April 17, 2005, 04:23:22 pm »

Yes I would play with a draft.

Marikar · « **Reply #38 on:** April 17, 2005, 05:28:03 pm »

Draft is fine by me preferably lager

GDA-Agave · « **Reply #39 on:** April 17, 2005, 05:29:53 pm »

Abso-frickin-lutely!!

Just as long as our leader brings a good supply of tequila, and doesn't mind me making planet-spears of my fellow pilots.

Making fun no matter where I go!!

Agave

P.S. Able to run both TS and VT.

RFA-Wraith · « **Reply #40 on:** April 17, 2005, 06:22:00 pm »

iantheace · « **Reply #41 on:** April 17, 2005, 06:51:45 pm »

Quote from: Age on April 16, 2005, 08:59:22 pm

Yes.However everyone would have to get the some voice comms and I would suggest TS.This way they only have one on their system.

Age = To Age? if so, long time no see, and if people will actually do PVP on this dyna, im there.

Julin Eurthyr · « **Reply #42 on:** April 17, 2005, 07:48:56 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm

(Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

Did you read my post in this mess...

Ready to be a leader with this draft stuff again, as long as the rules clearly spell out (NO TRADING) what can and can't occur in the time between the signup and draft, and what can happen post-draft but pre-signup.

Father Ted · « **Reply #43 on:** April 17, 2005, 07:51:44 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm

I'd like to thank everyone for actually agreeing to sign up for it so far.
(Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

I'd like to nominate Jeff and Die Hard. <snicker>

Hexx · « **Reply #44 on:** April 17, 2005, 08:14:45 pm »

Quote from: Julin Eurthyr on April 17, 2005, 07:48:56 pm

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm
(Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

Did you read my post in this mess...

Ready to be a leader with this draft stuff again, as long as the rules clearly spell out (NO TRADING) what can and can't occur in the time between the signup and draft, and what can happen post-draft but pre-signup.

Yep

You'd be one Leader, I need two
I mean I suppose you could run both sides but...
I haven't posted on the actual draft yet as I'm not sure what needs to be done.
Personally I'd like to thrwo everyone's name into the proverbial hat and just randomnly assign people to a side
Then voice coms etc comes into it and of course people would have to trust me..

FPF-Paladin · « **Reply #45 on:** April 17, 2005, 08:22:14 pm »

Quote from: Dfly on April 17, 2005, 10:48:10 am

And I have no problem with VT or TS and can run both simutaniously. Also have RW(outdated now) and BC(probably outdated), as well as Sidewinder.

Yes... and if running both comms is viable I'd do that also.

I think it's a great way to get to know each other. There are pilots normally flying Coalition I'd love to wing with.

Age · « **Reply #46 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:04:01 pm »

Quote from: iantheace on April 17, 2005, 06:51:45 pm

Quote from: Age on April 16, 2005, 08:59:22 pm
Yes.However everyone would have to get the some voice comms and I would suggest TS.This way they only have one on their system.

Age = To Age? if so, long time no see, and if people will actually do PVP on this dyna, im there.

OK.Where do I know you from I can't recall at the moment?

iantheace · « **Reply #47 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:13:13 pm »

GSA few yrs back, NT-Iantheace

Hexx · « **Reply #48 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:14:48 pm »

OK here's (kinda) the big one

I'd like to do a blind draft- neither leader actually knowing who they would get until it's done.
Heh, now here's the fun part... does everyone trust me to do this
(I assume this thread will be on page 60 when I wake up tomorrow

)

Age · « **Reply #49 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:19:49 pm »

A few weeks back maybe but not yrs as I have only been playing online sice last Nov. started out in GW4 and played some GSA.We will put Hexx as Head of the Draft Dept.Hexx the spin doctor of D2.

iantheace · « **Reply #50 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:46:32 pm »

Then you arent the guy i know

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #51 on:** April 17, 2005, 09:56:10 pm »

I trust you

GDA-Agave · « **Reply #52 on:** April 17, 2005, 11:09:17 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 09:14:48 pm

OK here's (kinda) the big one

I'd like to do a blind draft- neither leader actually knowing who they would get until it's done.
Heh, now here's the fun part... does everyone trust me to do this
(I assume this thread will be on page 60 when I wake up tomorrow )

I personally think that if you do a blind draft, you would need to communicate the exact method of HOW you are going to do your blind draft. Spell it out VERY specifically, then show the current list of players to be drafted (I'm sure you might have to do this several times as new pilots get interested). Then and only then, do I think that the majority of pilots will be comfortable with the draft. I know I can't speak for the majority, but that is my opinion and preference.

Corbomite · « **Reply #53 on:** April 18, 2005, 08:12:31 am »

Personally I would like a draft system where we all get together and get drunk, then throw darts at Hexx. The part of his body you hit will determine the team you fly for. Him being such a small target should make it quite challenging.

LordSaxon · « **Reply #54 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:17:47 am »

I would like to see the draft idea tried out; I had a blast on The KBF server flying against my buddies as a Hydran; I think mixing everyone up to fight with their regular "enemies" and against their regular "allies" could really make a positive impact on our community.

LordSaxon

benbean · « **Reply #55 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:18:08 am »

Yes,

and I like corbo's method

Hexx · « **Reply #56 on:** April 18, 2005, 11:26:51 am »

I know I said I'd consider all ideas but.. uhmm the travel expenses would simply be too much fpr me to ask
of all of you..otherwise I'm good with Corbo's idea.

Actually my idea of a blind draft would simply be to assign all the signed up players a number and have the two leaders
pick by numbers.
Get Pesty to write one of his super locked with encryption sheet that could be unlocked after the draft was done.
No trades.

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 18, 2005, 11:36:55 am »

Sign me up. Hopefully I'll get to play more this time than the amount of time I did for GW5.

Wraith 413

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #58 on:** April 18, 2005, 02:25:18 pm »

I'd love to play in a draft server, and Mirror Mirror is a perfect setup to try it out in. And yes, Hexx, I trust you to be fair in whatever method you use to admin the draft.

<joking>
Certainly there should be no trades, but there are some old card game rules I'd like to see. In several classic compettive card games, both sides are allowed to pass to their opponent two or three cards that they don't want. Could we do that? There are a few pilots I'd like to make sure are in my sites and not on my wings. They so have it coming.
</joking>

-S'Cipio

Hexx · « **Reply #59 on:** April 18, 2005, 02:48:41 pm »

Sorry Scip
Dh already asked
One of the two sides is going to have to let me fly with you.

Kroma BaSyl · « **Reply #60 on:** April 18, 2005, 05:00:16 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 18, 2005, 02:48:41 pm

Sorry Scip
Dh already asked
One of the two sides is going to have to let me fly with you.

OK if the sluff is a no go, how about a discard pile?

RazalYllib · « **Reply #61 on:** April 18, 2005, 05:47:51 pm »

A Draft sounds like a wonderful idea. I am pretty sure, it has not been Tried.

Blilnd Draft or by selection are the questions.

Blind draft is my choice, put the names on slips, put all slips in bag ( one slip per player btw even if you have multiple personalities ) and the server admin picks at random and makes two piles. Coalate the roster then go...easy and random.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #62 on:** April 18, 2005, 05:55:18 pm »

Quote from: RazalYllib on April 18, 2005, 05:47:51 pm

A Draft sounds like a wonderful idea. I am pretty sure, it has not been Tried.

Blilnd Draft or by selection are the questions.

Blind draft is my choice, put the names on slips, put all slips in bag ( one slip per player btw even if you have multiple personalities ) and the server admin picks at random and makes two piles. Coalate the roster then go...easy and random.

I would rather the 2 captains get togher with the admin on voice comms and pick their players like a pick-up game of Basketball.

This is the easiest and fairest way to go.

Hexx · « **Reply #63 on:** April 18, 2005, 05:59:32 pm »

Yeah, but I'm not sure how they'd stand hearing "What about Me?" for the entire
time.

KBF-Soth · « **Reply #64 on:** April 18, 2005, 06:05:00 pm »

draft sounds fine.Does this mean we password the server to lock it out after it has started? What about players who come late and/or miss the draft?Just wondering.Blind draft no trades.Each build cycle by RMs to Admin who takes both lists see which ones match each other and those get to be the builds for the round.HAH!! more work for Hexx

Or how about at mid-server the 3 top prestige earners switch sides.

Nemesis · « **Reply #65 on:** April 18, 2005, 06:32:54 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm

(cuz we all know who last will be... bastards..)

You need to think like a Romulan. Instead of seeing this as a bug in the system see it as a feature. Announce that you and J'inn are not part of the draft but you will assign the two of you where most needed once the draft is complete. Just think of how much you could make as people try to influence your decision to go "the right way".

Such opportunities don't come often, seize the day.

LordSaxon · « **Reply #66 on:** April 18, 2005, 10:40:22 pm »

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on April 18, 2005, 05:55:18 pm

I would rather the 2 captains get togher with the admin on voice comms and pick their players like a pick-up game of Basketball.

This is the easiest and fairest way to go.

If your gonna do a totally balanced draft then do the names in a pot and have a non-playing admin divide them solo. We will still see problems that occur with the "nutter" syndrome swaying from side to side ( back off, Kroma). But overall this may be the neighborhood get-together server we seem to be needing.

I disagree, DH, playing "Captains" on 2 sides will continue certain attitudes some think have led to our woes, and it really makes the server more fun when you have to battle your last commander and normal wing man in a 2 vs 1! (Again Kroma, please remain silent)

Allowing the draft to be totally anonymous completely deletes any ideas of "this guy flys 50 A.I. missions in 2 hours" or the "this pilot gets 3 PvP kills a day" conflictions. And Hexx won't have to live with being Picked LAST.

Just my viewpoint, but I'm willing to try any suggestions because I love this game and enjoy it so much.

KBF LordSaxon

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #67 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:03:39 am »

Quote from: LordSaxon on April 18, 2005, 10:40:22 pm

. . . And Hexx won't have to live with being Picked LAST.

Father Ted · « **Reply #68 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:33:50 am »

Quote from: LordSaxon on April 18, 2005, 10:40:22 pm

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on April 18, 2005, 05:55:18 pm

I would rather the 2 captains get togher with the admin on voice comms and pick their players like a pick-up game of Basketball.

This is the easiest and fairest way to go.

If your gonna do a totally balanced draft then do the names in a pot and have a non-playing admin divide them solo. We will still see problems that occur with the "nutter" syndrome swaying from side to side ( back off, Kroma). But overall this may be the neighborhood get-together server we seem to be needing.

I disagree, DH, playing "Captains" on 2 sides will continue certain attitudes some think have led to our woes, and it really makes the server more fun when you have to battle your last commander and normal wing man in a 2 vs 1! (Again Kroma, please remain silent)

Allowing the draft to be totally anonymous completely deletes any ideas of "this guy flys 50 A.I. missions in 2 hours" or the "this pilot gets 3 PvP kills a day" conflictions. And Hexx won't have to live with being Picked LAST.

Just my viewpoint, but I'm willing to try any suggestions because I love this game and enjoy it so much.

KBF LordSaxon

I would tend to agree, but given the luck we have, we'd end up with all the hex-flippers on one side, and all the PvPers on the other. What could be a solution is to have a pre-draft signup with an indication of which role a player is better at, and split them into two hats. Have the admin pull equally from each for both sides.

For example: Hexx does the draft: he pulls out of the PvP hat and gets Kreug. He goes to the Mirror Feds. Next, he'll pull another PvP'er and draws Die Hard, who goes to the Good Guys. Next round, he pulls a hex flipper from that hat and gets Soreyes, who goes to the Good Guys, while another hex flipper, say Gook, is pulled next and goes to the Mirror Feds. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Naturally, it's not a perfect solution as some guys excel in both areas, like Chuut and War Sears, but it would still be luck of the draw who gets them.

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #69 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:14:57 am »

Quote from: Hexx on April 18, 2005, 02:48:41 pm

Sorry Scip
Dh already asked
One of the two sides is going to have to let me fly with you.

Drats. I so wanted to make a smartarse comment today. But......

Hexx, in all my years of SFC, even during my nutter stage, I don't think I've ever flown wing with you. I'd be perfectly happy having you on my side.

-S'Cipio

Hexx · « **Reply #70 on:** April 19, 2005, 12:05:10 pm »

Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on April 19, 2005, 11:14:57 am

Quote from: Hexx on April 18, 2005, 02:48:41 pm
Sorry Scip
Dh already asked
One of the two sides is going to have to let me fly with you.

Drats. I so wanted to make a smartarse comment today. But......

Hexx, in all my years of SFC, even during my nutter stage, I don't think I've ever flown wing with you. I'd be perfectly happy having you on my side.

-S'Cipio

Thanks Scip!
But, uhmm this is the Fed civ war server we're talking about so only about 3 transporters on your ship..

KAT J'inn · « **Reply #71 on:** April 20, 2005, 08:02:29 pm »

I'd be happy to play.

I'd also be happy to handle the draft.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF PETE!!! NO WEASELING AND/OR ASKING FOR POST DRAFT TRADING LIKE ON KCW!!!!! It just causes too much trouble. Just draft and play.

However, the draft system I used for that would help balance the skill and nutter level. I'd be happy to do it again.

A simple lottery could result in the best pilots being on one side just by sheer luck.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #72 on:** April 20, 2005, 09:38:11 pm »

Quote from: J'inn on April 20, 2005, 08:02:29 pm

I
A simple lottery could result in the best pilots being on one side just by sheer luck.

What the Fleabag said

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #73 on:** April 20, 2005, 10:27:48 pm »

An interesting idea might also be to seperate the pilots into several smaller drafts as well based on most common time online so as to have a better chance for relative numbers parity at any given time, might be too complicated but just thought I'd bring it up.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #74 on:** April 20, 2005, 10:37:07 pm »

Quote from: KAT Chuut-Ritt on April 20, 2005, 10:27:48 pm

An interesting idea might also be to seperate the pilots into several smaller drafts as well based on most common time online so as to have a better chance for relative numbers parity at any given time, might be too complicated but just thought I'd bring it up.

We KNOW who the crackwhores are and who aren't. We don't needs a spreadsheet for this.

Ternado · « **Reply #75 on:** April 20, 2005, 11:54:36 pm »

Canadian draft for me, yuppers

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #76 on:** April 21, 2005, 08:25:06 am »

Quote from: Ternado on April 20, 2005, 11:54:36 pm

Canadian draft for me, yuppers

Molson, Labatt or....?

Hexx · « **Reply #77 on:** April 21, 2005, 11:44:04 am »

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on April 20, 2005, 09:38:11 pm

Quote from: J'inn on April 20, 2005, 08:02:29 pm
I
A simple lottery could result in the best pilots being on one side just by sheer luck.

What the Fleabag said

What does luck have to do with any of this?

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #78 on:** April 21, 2005, 02:38:59 pm »

Quote from: Father Ted on April 17, 2005, 07:51:44 pm

Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm
I'd like to thank everyone for actually agreeing to sign up for it so far.
(Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

I'd like to nominate Jeff and Die Hard. <snicker>

SECONDED!

KAT J'inn · « **Reply #79 on:** April 21, 2005, 03:51:10 pm »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on April 21, 2005, 02:38:59 pm

Quote from: Father Ted on April 17, 2005, 07:51:44 pm
Quote from: Hexx on April 17, 2005, 03:43:25 pm
I'd like to thank everyone for actually agreeing to sign up for it so far.
(Oh, did I mention I need 2 leaders btw?)

I'd like to nominate Jeff and Die Hard. <snicker>

SECONDED!

I agree completely.

<snicker>

Bonk · « **Reply #80 on:** April 21, 2005, 04:57:50 pm »

I'm all for a draft. (was the last time too...

) I love the idea.

Considering the last few posts, I may not participate in this server however, due to other grudge-type issues. (sad but true...

)

Hexx · « **Reply #81 on:** April 21, 2005, 05:03:41 pm »

Quote from: Bonk on April 21, 2005, 04:57:50 pm

I'm all for a draft. (was the last time too... ) I love the idea.

Considering the last few posts, I may not participate in this server however, due to other grudge-type issues. (sad but true... )

You have an issue with Canadien Beer? (did I miss the grudge stuff?)

Bonk · « **Reply #82 on:** April 21, 2005, 05:11:14 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 21, 2005, 05:03:41 pm

Quote from: Bonk on April 21, 2005, 04:57:50 pm
I'm all for a draft. (was the last time too... ) I love the idea.

Considering the last few posts, I may not participate in this server however, due to other grudge-type issues. (sad but true... )

You have an issue with Canadien Beer? (did I miss the grudge stuff?)

PM sent.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #83 on:** April 21, 2005, 05:12:44 pm »

Quote from: Hexx on April 21, 2005, 05:03:41 pm

Quote from: Bonk on April 21, 2005, 04:57:50 pm
I'm all for a draft. (was the last time too... ) I love the idea.

Considering the last few posts, I may not participate in this server however, due to other grudge-type issues. (sad but true... )

You have an issue with Canadien Beer? (did I miss the grudge stuff?)

LMAO..you know...I immediately thought the same thing

Bonk · « **Reply #84 on:** April 21, 2005, 05:16:17 pm »

lol,

D2 draft = OK,

Draft beer = not OK (tummy too old - just nice pure bottled brews now...)

Hexx · « **Reply #85 on:** April 21, 2005, 05:36:40 pm »

but, but,.. it's Canadian... I mean I can understand about that swill south of the 49th but..

Bonk · « **Reply #86 on:** April 21, 2005, 06:03:45 pm »

OK, OT we go... lol

I used to like Canadian beers and drank plenty of them (relatively - as alcohol is not my preferred poison), but I find most of them make me sick now (especially draft) but the European beers brewed according to the purity law (only 4 allowable ingredients in beer) usually sit OK on my ol guts now.

Sad but true; Stella has replaced Moosehead for me as my default brew. Unfortunately, a six of Stella costs me $11.95 CAN... ow...

Cant drink cans anymore either, just bottles... guess I'm just getting to be a picky old fart.

Hexx · « **Reply #87 on:** April 21, 2005, 07:01:11 pm »

Well cans are understandable, really I think the only ones who prefer beer from a can are the same
hicks who drink the aforemailgned american brew.
But to turn your back on Keiths.. oh the humanity
(As fr the purity laws- on my tour of Europe wasn't particularly impressed, although had a VERY good
beer in Austira regrettably I was so hammered i don't remember what it was..

)

Lear · « **Reply #88 on:** April 21, 2005, 07:58:02 pm »

I would like to play <when I can>
can not promis many are any hours
but will try if I am in town

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