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What do you think about the X-Ship used on GW5?

Love them
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2005, 11:05:55 am »
Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...

What about other races?   While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma   (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get?  I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out.  196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.

The CLX is a DH creation for this server, as a rough equavilant to the HDX and SPX NOT the CMX which is where the CX matches up.

The thing to keep in mind about a fed ship having a lower BPV though is that it doesn't include the fast drone cost or combat effectiveness.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2005, 11:06:57 am »
Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...

What about other races?   While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma   (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get?  I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out.  196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.

Plasma X is a joke.   I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.

CMX is a Heavy, CLX is a light.   Compare the Fed CLX to the G-HDX and R-SPX.   that is more accurate

I pulled the CLX out of my ass, that is a DH ship.  it has 6 Photons jeff, time to get your eyes checked  ;D
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2005, 11:12:11 am »
Plasma X's seemed pretty well balanced...

What about other races?   While the plasma X's get upgrades to the types of plasma   (ie.CMX has 2 R's, 2 S's), what does say, the F-CLX get?  I see 2 extra phaser 1's, but the same photon load out.  196 BPV compared to 260 of the CMX.

Plasma X is a joke.   I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.


Not positive, but I think he mean X ships with plasma in general, NOT the Plasma X weapon.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2005, 12:03:45 pm »
  Yes. I like the non Taldren X ships that are used on the Dyna but I would like to seea few changes made to them.I haven't played with them that much.

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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2005, 03:08:11 pm »


Plasma X is a joke.   I'll let Corbo eleborate on that.




Plasma X and Plasma E are just fine. They were the only X-Weapons Taldren got right IMO.

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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2005, 11:50:39 pm »
Didnt mind them-- actually LOVED to fly the romulan SKX...fantastic little DD..

My only comment about X ships-- even the little Frigs is they make just about every other ship obsolete... My guess is I can beat about any fed HC hell other then carries and BCF/BCG/BCJ by using a X class DD(frig)..

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Bit late to the discussion (Heavy work schedules been keeping me occupied) but I disagree, the older ships with good power curves I think can give many of the GW5 X-ships a run for their money.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2005, 09:48:58 pm »
Well Duck and I just did the NHK vesus SKX . . .

after an 1:20, I accidently flew off the map with a total of 18 internals scored.

Seems close enoug to me  ;D
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2005, 01:52:51 am »
Oh that doesn't count. Do it again.

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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2005, 02:44:26 pm »
I like them.  Were the other races also converted?  Is so I want a copy.  I always disliked the X-Ships in SFB and in SFC2:OP because unlike all that went before they were not incremental improvements.   

A K-D7K vs a well played K-D7B but lose without being incompetent.  A K-D7W could only win vs a K-D7X by an improbable level of incompetence on the X ships player. 

Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along.  Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses.  In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't. 
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2005, 02:52:28 pm »
Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along.  Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses.  In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't. 


Sure they do : Bad tactics.

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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2005, 03:03:06 pm »
Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along.  Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses.  In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't. 

Sure they do : Bad tactics.

That is not a weakness in the ship but in the Captain.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2005, 03:16:07 pm »
Each generation could be beaten by the prior generation, until the X-Ships come along.  Also these X-Ships lack one thing - weaknesses.  In any non X ship you always have vulnerabilities, the X-Ships don't. 

Sure they do : Bad tactics.

That is not a weakness in the ship but in the Captain.


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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2005, 12:03:59 pm »
 The only 1v1 match I had during GW5 was my DGX vs Shin32's SKX. Although we each had an AI partner, they beat up on each other and stayed out of our fight.  It was a very good match and matchup, ship and player wise. I'd give the nod to the DGX, by a hair.  It was a treat to fly the DGX, I never saw the DDX in the limited amount of time I was online. Sounds like a nice ship though.

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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2005, 12:11:47 pm »
Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2005, 12:48:43 pm »
Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.

I had one, great little ship  ;D   Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2005, 02:51:01 pm »
Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.

I had one, great little ship  ;D   Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2005, 05:01:12 pm »
Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.

I had one, great little ship  ;D   Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
Face it DH you've gotten old and slow, get me out of a plasma boat and you don't stand a chance

Rumor has it Hexx is an Ace with an escape pod.
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2005, 05:18:37 pm »
Yeah, I don't ever recall seeing a DDX in the yards either.

I had one, great little ship  ;D   Would have killed Hexx much faster in that one

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ... oh wait, no, that's not funny
Face it DH you've gotten old and slow, get me out of a plasma boat and you don't stand a chance

Rumor has it Hexx is an Ace with an escape pod.

I thought the cabinboys used a mop?   ;D
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2005, 05:19:20 pm »
Yuck it up you two.
I'm sure after I annihilate you both on Mirror2
You'll be singing a different tune..
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Re: Poll on GW5 X-ships
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2005, 05:24:29 pm »
Yuck it up you two.
I'm sure after I annihilate you both on Mirror2
You'll be singing a different tune..

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