Topic: Official GW5 OOB Builds, Kills, and Info thread

[WarSears]

In a one hour mission GreatGorny CMX goes down to my SUB. VGG <S>

[Corbomite]

In a one hour mission GreatGorny CMX goes down to my SUB. VGG <S>

Yes you played great! Never trust a Gorn shuttle bay. Multiple launch rate my ass!

[KBF-Butcher]

Taking out the CNHF


Edit:Attention all federation pilots! Report immediately to Kroma's cabin room   

[FPF-DieHard]

Yes Dizzy, we hate you. 

U.S.S.  Star of Andor Heavy Dreadnaught (DNH) FPFDieHard
U.S.S.  Defiant Advanced Heavy Cruiser (CX) SSCF Paladin


U.S.S. Mustang  Fast Cruiser (CF) 
U.S.S Nile Interdiction Carrier (CVD) JBelanger
U.S.S.  Mantaray New Fast Cruiser    (F-NCF) FPF Dr Azteca
U.S.S John Cochrane New PF Tender (F-NHP)
U.S.S Saratoga Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX)Xtreme Damage
U.S.S Archer Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX) Deadman
U.S.S S'hran Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX) Father Ted

[FPF-DieHard]

Yes Dizzy, we hate you. 

U.S.S.  Star of Andor Heavy Dreadnaught (DNH) FPFDieHard
U.S.S.  Defiant Advanced Heavy Cruiser (CX) SSCF Paladin


U.S.S. Mustang  Fast Cruiser (CF) 
U.S.S Nile Interdiction Carrier (CVD) JBelanger
U.S.S.  Mantaray New Fast Cruiser    (F-NCF) FPF Dr Azteca
U.S.S John Cochrane New PF Tender (F-NHP)
U.S.S Saratoga Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX)Xtreme Damage
U.S.S Archer Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX) Deadman
U.S.S S'hran Advanced Light Cruiser (CLX) Father Ted

[Pestalence_XC]

Hey.. was a good match.. I didn't count on you having 2 HC droner Klink escorts.. My miscalculation and I lost.. I targeted you and didn't look at the other ships and assumed they were ROM.. I took the opportunity before you could get your plas back up and it cost me... GG

[KBFLordKrueg]

Transferring the SPX from cabinGirl back to Kurok.
Transferring the FHX from Hexx (before he gets it killed  ) to ShadowLord

[KBFLordKrueg]

A question:
This snippit from the rules page:


 A LOS means a one hex wide line from a planet under your team’s control (hereinafter called a depot) up to the hex in question.

- Federation and Gorn MAY NOT trace an LOS through each others’ space.

- You may not flip a planet or a base hex to neutral or from neutral to your empire unless you have a LOS to it.

- You must have a LOS to any hex in which you place a base at the time it is placed.

Since the Feds haven't had a planet left for a few days...since they have no bases of any kind left, doesn't this mean they can't flip anymore hexes blue? Doesn't that in fact mean that even the last base placement at 6,4 was illegal? (Not that we're going to protest it or anything.  )
What a shame Jinn's not around...where's the rules lawyer when you need him? Hopefully, he'll see this and give a ruling.

[Corbomite]

A question:
This snippit from the rules page:


 A LOS means a one hex wide line from a planet under your team’s control (hereinafter called a depot) up to the hex in question.

- Federation and Gorn MAY NOT trace an LOS through each others’ space.

- You may not flip a planet or a base hex to neutral or from neutral to your empire unless you have a LOS to it.

- You must have a LOS to any hex in which you place a base at the time it is placed.

Since the Feds haven't had a planet left for a few days...since they have no bases of any kind left, doesn't this mean they can't flip anymore hexes blue? Doesn't that in fact mean that even the last base placement at 6,4 was illegal? (Not that we're going to protest it or anything.  )
What a shame Jinn's not around...where's the rules lawyer when you need him? Hopefully, he'll see this and give a ruling.

Then ask for a formal surrender and get it over with. You guys seem to like fighting AI.

[FPF-DieHard]

Please, like we're going to let rules get in the way of our cheating 

[Kroma BaSyl]

A question:
This snippit from the rules page:


 A LOS means a one hex wide line from a planet under your team’s control (hereinafter called a depot) up to the hex in question.

- Federation and Gorn MAY NOT trace an LOS through each others’ space.

- You may not flip a planet or a base hex to neutral or from neutral to your empire unless you have a LOS to it.

- You must have a LOS to any hex in which you place a base at the time it is placed.

Since the Feds haven't had a planet left for a few days...since they have no bases of any kind left, doesn't this mean they can't flip anymore hexes blue? Doesn't that in fact mean that even the last base placement at 6,4 was illegal? (Not that we're going to protest it or anything.  )
What a shame Jinn's not around...where's the rules lawyer when you need him? Hopefully, he'll see this and give a ruling.

I would encourage you to file a formal protest.

In a effort to allow the few remaining Fed players the ability to continue having fun on the server, we will interpret this as since they don't have a planet they don't require an LOS. So flip and place away Feddies.

To mitigate the expected bitching over this interpretation, the Coalition can have all of VC in Fed space, even if the Feds later reclaim any, which is highly unlikely. Not that any of this matters to the server or seiries as the total VC outcome was determined quiet some time ago.

[KBFLordKrueg]

I would encourage you to file a formal protest.

*sigh* already said we've no intention of such. 

In a effort to allow the few remaining Fed players the ability to continue having fun on the server, we will interpret this as since they don't have a planet they don't require an LOS. So flip and place away Feddies.

Ok, np, the Feds can place more base if they want, I was just asking. Oh..wait..they have to have someplace to buy them first, don't they? 

To mitigate the expected bitching over this interpretation, the Coalition can have all of VC in Fed space, even if the Feds later reclaim any, which is highly unlikely. Not that any of this matters to the server or seiries as the total VC outcome was determined quiet some time ago.

Actually, we already own all the VCs in Fed space, we have for a few days now. So, your statements are indeed accurate about being determined some time ago. 

It was just a question....Ty for your answer, sir. 

[Kroma BaSyl]

Ok, np, the Feds can place more base if they want, I was just asking. Oh..wait..they have to have someplace to buy them first, don't they? 

You are assuming they didn't already, or can't flip a Gorn base Fed.

Actually, we already own all the VCs in Fed space, we have for a few days now. So, your statements are indeed accurate about being determined some time ago. 

Actually you have to hold them at the end of the server, thus I was simply mitigating the remote possibility they might take some back,  by allowing the Feds an loose interpretation of the LOS rule and the ability to continue playing.

Kroma

[FPF-DieHard]

Ok, np, the Feds can place more base if they want, I was just asking. Oh..wait..they have to have someplace to buy them first, don't they? 

<Snicker>

[Kroma BaSyl]

*sigh* already said we've no intention of such. 

I was implying it would have fallen on deaf ears. <snicker>

[KBF-Butcher]

Taking out the CNHF

[Mazeppa]

A question:
This snippit from the rules page:


 A LOS means a one hex wide line from a planet under your team’s control (hereinafter called a depot) up to the hex in question.

- Federation and Gorn MAY NOT trace an LOS through each others’ space.

- You may not flip a planet or a base hex to neutral or from neutral to your empire unless you have a LOS to it.

- You must have a LOS to any hex in which you place a base at the time it is placed.

Since the Feds haven't had a planet left for a few days...since they have no bases of any kind left, doesn't this mean they can't flip anymore hexes blue? Doesn't that in fact mean that even the last base placement at 6,4 was illegal? (Not that we're going to protest it or anything.  )
What a shame Jinn's not around...where's the rules lawyer when you need him? Hopefully, he'll see this and give a ruling.

I would encourage you to file a formal protest.

In a effort to allow the few remaining Fed players the ability to continue having fun on the server, we will interpret this as since they don't have a planet they don't require an LOS. So flip and place away Feddies.

To mitigate the expected bitching over this interpretation, the Coalition can have all of VC in Fed space, even if the Feds later reclaim any, which is highly unlikely. Not that any of this matters to the server or seiries as the total VC outcome was determined quiet some time ago.

The LOS rule has stood us in good stead for some time.  For a very long time, there was no real possibility of a race having all their planets and bases taken.  In this case, Federation territory was smaller than normal, since the intent of this server was to have a Gorn Rom fight. 

Make no mistake about it, the rules are being changed, not loosely interperted.  The change makes sense, though.  Maybe we need to remember this situation, and modify the LOS rule to take this situation into account. 

[FPF-DieHard]

Or we could just cheat like we plan on doing anyway . .  .

[Kroma BaSyl]

Make no mistake about it, the rules are being changed, not loosely interperted.  The change makes sense, though.  Maybe we need to remember this situation, and modify the LOS rule to take this situation into account. 

The intent of the rule is not though, it was always assumed there would be somewhere to draw a LOS from. And no where near the size of the rules/setup change made on GW2 to accomidate the Coalition, for which there has never been one single word from the Coalition leadership about except to complain that the Alliance leadership didn't thank them for it.

Tell you what, I will leave it up to Krueg to decide what to do. Krueg how do you suggest we handle the situation?

[Mazeppa]

Make no mistake about it, the rules are being changed, not loosely interperted.  The change makes sense, though.  Maybe we need to remember this situation, and modify the LOS rule to take this situation into account. 

The intent of the rule is not though, it was always assumed there would be somewhere to draw a LOS from. And no where near the size of the rules/setup change made on GW2 to accomidate the Coalition, for which there has never been one single word from the Coalition leadership about except to complain that the Alliance leadership didn't thank them for it.

Tell you what, I will leave it up to Krueg to decide what to do. Krueg how do you suggest we handle the situation?

Kroma, your solution makes sense, and you have proclaimed it.  I was making the point that, in future, we should look at the LOS rule and maybe modify it.