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Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« on: March 19, 2005, 05:50:45 pm »
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2005, 05:54:12 pm »
Back when I had dialup, I remember that I could usually do 15 MB in a few hours or so. I'd just put on some music and work on something else as it downloaded. It was kind of a pain, but it was doable.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2005, 06:41:15 pm »
What the heck did you put in the installer for it to be 15 megs?
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2005, 07:23:26 pm »
Considering that I have downloaded entire Linux CD sets I think that my dialup can handle it.  :)
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2005, 07:53:20 pm »
Pass it to me and I will see about getting it shrunk down with a combination of NSIS and Install Creator... I may be able to cut a MB or 2 off that size.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2005, 08:23:29 pm »
http://69.115.120.11:9000/images/gw5.msi

If anyone wants to repackage it for the bandwidth impaired, feel free  ;D
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2005, 09:00:43 pm »
Upon review, the Romulan and Lyran Empires would like to point out that
ANYONE providing, or aiding, in the distribution of this installer will be considered
a war criminal and hunted down like a dog.
(We assume the Klingons will like it)

It's like OP: Miami Vice style..
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2005, 09:07:28 pm »
Dang, what a coincidence.. I just bought a Don Johnson style 80's suit for a retro club.. :)
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2005, 09:09:36 pm »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on March 19, 2005, 08:23:29 pm
http://69.115.120.11:9000/images/gw5.msi

If anyone wants to repackage it for the bandwidth impaired, feel free ;D


Any Requirements that must be installed before this package installs.. like OP + 4.0?

I can have the installer check prior to install and prevent install if components are not already installed.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2005, 10:46:24 pm »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on March 19, 2005, 08:23:29 pm


If anyone wants to repackage it for the bandwidth impaired, feel free  ;D

Call FS he is a master at that. Coop Ace went from 1.8MB to 395KB.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2005, 11:06:30 pm »
Scripts compress easy in NSIS.. but what takes the room up in an installer is the Models.. a Model will compress to about 2.8 MB with an average of 8 to 10 BMPs.. the more models, the more space required.. both Install Creator and NSIS are about the same in this area.. and Install Creator is better at compressing *.txt files...

Basically, you can do the scripts in NSIS, which will drive the size way down on the scripts, then package everything else in Install Creator Pro under maximum compression and maybe squeeze another 1 % out of the scripts and get everything else as small as it possibly can go under current available public compression.

All I am neding to know is What requirements besides v2552 patch, is needed for the server.. is the shiplist requiring OP + ? I want the installer to check for the component and if not installed, then prompt for DL of the missing component before install continues...

Anyhow.. hope that this helps.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2005, 12:26:02 am »
Yeah, OP + 4 needs to be installed first, the Beta isn't "oficially" open but I'm not too concerned if people F' up their systems or not.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2005, 12:40:30 am »
How is 9.64 MB ?

That is as small as it can get with the models included...

I have the installer built and I have the install files backed up for updating if need be...

Uploading now.. I re-adjusted your install method of your original installer a bit.. you forgot to backup the NW scripts if someone is using the OP Enhancement Package or my Script.exe installer if playing on SFBOP server...

Hope that this helps.. I'll post URL here in a couple of moments.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2005, 02:14:58 am »
Well, just shaved a tiny bit more, went back through the scripts you have in the package.. 2 of them are stock scripts.. as such, I removed them from the installer...

Re-compiling now and getting ready to upload.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2005, 02:52:56 am »
9.57 MB

Here is the URL for the installer..

http://sfcx.no-ip.com/downloads/mirrors/Pestalence/GW5_Install.exe


Installer will only install if OP + is installed first

MetaAssets install was ignored in the original installer, corrected.. shiplist and ftrlistlist files now installed to both MetaAssets and Assets\Specs

2 stock scripts were included which were not necessary, scripts removed for space

Batch files did not take into account the fact that a player may have NW scripts already installed, scripts are now backed up

Renamed desktop shortcuts for clairity

Dual installer compalation to get smallest possible size... Installer size reduced from 14.6 MB to 9.57 MB, a 5.03 MB savings on installer size.

Tested for proper install/uninstall with the batch files and installer / uninstaller files

Installer will now auto setup the game to be in GW 5 mode when complete

desktop shortcuts now recognize which mode game is in and only swap files after checking mode

Added background image and first panel image into installer.. images stolen from Kroma's site.


Anyhow, if you like other changes, It will be very easy for me to make the changes... probably less than 30 min for changes to be complete and another 10 min to get them uploaded.

Hope that this helps.

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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2005, 03:18:59 am »
Re-Compiled above installer with 1 error message fix... Just tested on SFC OP without OP + installed.. the message for the error was generic. I just updated the message to give DL location of OP + v4.0 and reason for not being able to install..

Hopefully this will alleviate some confusion for new players trying to get on the server.

Will upload here in about 15 min and should be available in 25 min.. installer size still the same.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2005, 03:46:05 am »
9.57 MB

Here is the URL for the installer..

http://sfcx.no-ip.com/downloads/mirrors/Pestalence/GW5_Install.exe



Total Adjustments to original installer:

Installer will only install if OP + is installed first.. message gives DL location of OP + v4.0 and reason GW 5 installer not being able to install

MetaAssets install was ignored in the original installer, corrected.. shiplist and ftrlistlist files now installed to both MetaAssets and Assets\Specs

2 stock scripts were included which were not necessary, scripts removed for space

Batch files did not take into account the fact that a player may have NW scripts already installed, scripts are now backed up

Renamed desktop shortcuts for clairity

Dual installer compalation to get smallest possible size... Installer size reduced from 14.6 MB to 9.57 MB, a 5.03 MB savings on installer size.

Tested for proper install/uninstall with the batch files and installer / uninstaller files

Installer will now auto setup the game to be in GW 5 mode when complete

desktop shortcuts now recognize which mode game is in and only swap files after checking mode

Added background image and first panel image into installer.. images stolen from Kroma's site.



Anyhow, if you like other changes, It will be very easy for me to make the changes... probably less than 30 min for changes to be complete and another 10 min to get them uploaded.

Hope that this helps.


Reposted to show the file is ready for DL as of now.



New installer package below

« Last Edit: March 21, 2005, 03:54:27 am by Pestalence »
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2005, 05:19:21 am »
DH, I noticed a lot of unnecessary stuff in the mod. You have models for PFs and fighters for several races that don't even appear in GW5, plus extra fighter models for the Gorn and Rom that aren't even being used in the fighter list. Get with me on TS or MSN today and we can go through it.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2005, 12:46:26 pm »
Quote from: Kroma on March 20, 2005, 05:19:21 am
DH, I noticed a lot of unnecessary stuff in the mod. You have models for PFs and fighters for several races that don't even appear in GW5, plus extra fighter models for the Gorn and Rom that aren't even being used in the fighter list. Get with me on TS or MSN today and we can go through it.

The uneeeded-p00p is a drop in the bucket, doesn't add up to much when compressed.

PS a bunch of FYA are wrong, they will be corrected server-side.
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Re: Um, how painful is a 15 MB installer for you dial-up peeps?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2005, 07:52:03 pm »
Installer does not seem to be working.  First attempt, it did not detect OP+ 4 eventhough I have it installed, so I uninstalled and reinstalled OP+ 4.  Second attempt, installer fails to detect OP+ 4 install yet again.  After that, I gave up.  Perhaps that feature could be removed as it does not seem to be working.
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