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The Greatest Frenchman!
« on: March 16, 2005, 05:47:30 am »
 De Gaulle or Piaf, but no Napoleon: poll for French greatest underway          


 PARIS (AFP)-  Charles de Gaulle was the only political leader to feature on a shortlist of ten personalities from whom television viewers are to select the greatest ever French man or woman in history.

The wartime hero's rivals for the billing were two scientists, two comedians, a singer, an underwater explorer and a campaigning monk.

But there was no place for other celebrated leaders such as Napoleon, Charlemagne, Louis XIV or Francois Mitterrand, all of whom featured too low down in the top 100 to qualify. President Jacques Chirac came in at 42.

The 10 names were unveiled in a live broadcast from the upper house of parliament, the Senate, on state-owned France 2 Television. Over the next two weeks the station will broadcast half-hour documentaries in which famous modern-day figures will act as advocates to plead their cause.

The public can vote via the Internet, telephone or text-messages, and the winner will be announced at a second live broadcast from the Senate whose date has to be set.

Apart from de Gaulle, the candidates are: Marie Curie and Louis Pasteur, comics Coluche and Bourvil; writers Victor Hugo and Moliere; singer Edith Piaf; underwater explorer Jacques Cousteau; and -- the only living contender -- 92 year-old Abbe Pierre, who has spent half a century working for the homeless.

In the longer roster of 100 personalities drawn up by a polling institute, Napoleon won 16th position; Charlemagne came in at 22; Mitterrand at 24; Joan of Arc at 31 and Louis XIV at 50. Revolutionary leader Robespierre was in 72nd place.

The top sportsman was Zinedine Zidane at 21, followed by fellow footballer Michel Platini in 41st position, sailor Eric Tabarly at 49, judoka David Douillet at 51 and tennis-man Yannick Noah at 56.

In the acting world, Fernandel (the late Fernand Contandin) was 13th, followed by Louis de Funes and Jean Gabin on 17 and 18 and Jean-Paul Belmondo (news) on 38. Catherine Deneuve (news) was 97th and Gerard Depardieu (news) 99th.


The programme format was pioneered by the BBC with the British public choosing Winston Churchill for the title. In Germany viewers elected Konrad Adenauer, that country's first chancellor following the debacle of World War II, and in the Netherlands Prince William of Orange pipped slain right-wing anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn after a recount.


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My vote goes to Catherine Deneuve. I mean, really, with a voice like that, she has to be the greatest thing to come out of France ever!






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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 09:40:56 am »
Who cares if she can sing?  Look at her.


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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 03:19:23 pm »
Charles Martel.  Without him, there would be no France.
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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2005, 07:01:18 pm »
The Marquis de Lafayette

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 07:02:32 pm »
Well, it could be contested that Charlemagne was actually German and not French...As he was more towards that area which both areas think as theirs...if I recall history correctly...and the crown seat, or the area which went to the Holy Roman Emperor was not the French areas in eventuality, but the areas that are known as Germany/Austria etc. in the 20th century.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 11:28:48 pm »
Well, it could be contested that Charlemagne was actually German and not French...As he was more towards that area which both areas think as theirs...if I recall history correctly...and the crown seat, or the area which went to the Holy Roman Emperor was not the French areas in eventuality, but the areas that are known as Germany/Austria etc. in the 20th century.

 I didn't know that Dsah.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2005, 05:05:23 am »
I look at that list, and immediately think Jacques Cousteau would get my vote.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2005, 06:02:51 am »
 Same here he was my hero when i was a little kid.
 
  I used to watch him on TV and wish I was diving with him.

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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2005, 06:54:09 am »
Well, it could be contested that Charlemagne was actually German and not French...As he was more towards that area which both areas think as theirs...if I recall history correctly...and the crown seat, or the area which went to the Holy Roman Emperor was not the French areas in eventuality, but the areas that are known as Germany/Austria etc. in the 20th century.

Most of the original territory of the Holy Roman Empire was in what is now France, but it shifted east after a few hundred years, losing its French territory and gaining the rest of the German/Austrian territory. Charlemagne's government was in Aachen, iirc.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2005, 01:01:45 pm »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.

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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2005, 09:26:37 pm »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.

The two people that would maybe get my vote aren't even French. ;D Napoleon was Corsican and Charlemagne was German.

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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2005, 10:00:13 pm »
The Marquis de Lafayette

Is there a chance some of you don't know who the The Marquis de Lafayette was?

He was a war hero in the American Revolution and close friend of Washington. He fought at several battles, was wounded, and was a strong champion of American Indiependance.  A very interesting charaacter. LaFayette, Indiana was named for him.

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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2005, 08:55:05 am »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.


My point exactly! :)
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2005, 10:10:00 am »
Marshal Micheal Ney, Marshal Jochim Murat, Marshal Soult, France at one time bred men to fight. this has lasped however.
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2005, 12:02:09 pm »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.

Guillaume le batard.  aka William the Conquerer.  What would England have become without him and the thousands of French troops and nobles he brought over with him?
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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2005, 02:50:37 pm »
Why, Jean-Luc Picard, of course!  ;D

But seriously, I think I'd have to say Marie Curie (though born in Poland she lived and worked in France).

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2005, 02:52:55 pm »
Why, Jean-Luc Picard, of course!  ;D

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Re: The Greatest Frenchman!
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2005, 02:53:34 pm »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.

Guillaume le batard.  aka William the Conquerer.  What would England have become without him and the thousands of French troops and nobles he brought over with him?

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2005, 07:40:25 pm »
As a brit I would question the existance of a greatest frenchman.

Guillaume le batard.  aka William the Conquerer.  What would England have become without him and the thousands of French troops and nobles he brought over with him?

I think it would have become nearly the same as it is today, except with a Saxon legacy instead of the Norman one.
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