Topic: Guess we finally figured out where the ridgless Klinks came from

[SSCF-LeRoy]

Who woulda thunk it?!

[Nemesis]

Who woulda thunk it?!

Me.

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[Khalee1]

Yes the episodes are getting better to bad like I said before Its too little too late.

[Ravok]

Who woulda thunk it?!

 No wonder they don't want to discuss it. They have part human DNA.

[KBF-Crim]

What the?

bah...TOS is on Sci-fi ....cool...

[Nemesis]

No wonder they don't want to discuss it. They have part human DNA.

Would Worf want to admit not only that but that they were in fact stronger and smarter?  Would he want to admit that they existed because the TNG style Klingons were afraid of humans and in attempting to emulate humans fouled up and created a genetic plague?  Would he want to admit that the TNG style Klingons were unable to design their own augments and had to use the human designs to do so? 

Enterprise/TNG Klingons were culturally unable to admit weakness and error.  A severe flaw.  A flaw that would block Worf from ever being able to admit his types mistakes.   If you can't admit a mistake it is very difficult to fix it.

In the TOS era the Romulans were buying Klingon technology and were the junior partner in the coalition.  In the TMP era Klingons were using Romulan technology.  By the TNG era the Romulans were strong enough to break the alliance and stand alone.  The Enterprise Klingons had to steal technology because the people only prized warfare and did not support research required to back it up.  The TOS Klingons were able to export technology to build up allies to oppose the Federation. 

The Enterprise Klingons were raiding colonies set up by other species for supplies, little more than pirates.  The TOS era Klingons were capable enough to go out and conquer territories and build their own colonies in those territories.

A behavioural comparison. Worf repeatedly encountered Q.  Each time his response was physical.  A physical response to Q was only appropriate when Q was made human.   But Worf could not admit the mistake of that style of response and change.  When Kang during Day of the Dove had Kirk demonstrate the existance of the alien manipulating things he was able to recognize the error of the way he was doing things and change.  Even able to work directly with an enemy, because it was the way to win.  Worf couldn't have done as Kang did.

[Ravok]

 You know it also dawned on me why "Your Mother has a smooth forehead " Is such a great insult as well.

[SSCF-LeRoy]

Well, I guess this settles it then; the ridgehead Klingons are the true species while the ridgeless Klingons are the Frankenstien monster that took over.

[Ravok]

Well, I guess this settles it then; the ridgehead Klingons are the true species while the ridgeless Klingons are the Frankenstien monster that took over.

 I agree . It was a good show,and something i have been wanting to know for years.

[Mentat Jon]

it could have been poor Klingon Imigration laws? let them smooth heads in! ehehe

[Ravok]

it could have been poor Klingon Imigration laws? let them smooth heads in! ehehe

  There goes the neighborhood.

[Commander La'ra]

I always thought Worf reacted that way cuz Worf was kind of a putz.

[E_Look]

Actually, I thought of him as a Klingon war nerd.

[Chris Johnson]

And all of this in 2155... Which is, what?  Sixty-three years before the original official/canon first contact with Klingons?  Where'd Romulans get and lose their ridges then?  Enterprise really shook up canon, from natural starship designs to official events basically.  But then, that's the risk one must take to keep the show more cool as if it was a TNG-era Star Trek show, and those were cool, were they not?  Nobody wants to see primitive spherical primary hulls and cylindrical secondary hulls and warp nacelles and necks as well as boxy warp pylons.  Nobody wants to see primitive lasers with some TOS sound effects hints and stuff.  That's why there's Phasers and Photons on the NX-01 (if you ignore the lack of R in "Phaser" and the addition if IC at the end of "Photon") and cloaking devices in many species, from Romulans (and their Jem'Hedar-esque warp nacelles) to the Suliban, and planet-destroying devices of the Xindi.
 I heard something similar Romulans had during the Earth-Romulan war in one of Diane Duane's books set in the Mirror Universe back in 1993... But I digress.

Although Enterprise is entertaining, I wouldn't bother setting it in an ideal Trek timeline, aside from it being a part of an alternate quantum reality (referencing "Parallels" [TNG]).  As I said in another thread, canon isn't all that's cracked up to be.  That's why I blame the more-Russian, less Imperial/Oriental-esque culture and smooth foreheads on early Trek universe development and lack of good budget and graphics.  Otherwise, I think Klingons would've developed in TOS to being similar to what they were in late-TMP/mid-TNG as we saw them, culture and makeup-wise.

But that doesn't mean Enterprise's no fun.  Although several pre-established and many assumed canon were broken in the first place, it was interesting nonetheless, as is Season 4, and as it will be in the future, with future episodes like "In a Mirror, Darkly" [ENT].  I'm especially looking forward to that episode.  It might as well be my favorite.

[Commander La'ra]

Now not only do they beat dead horses, they drag them into other threads to let other people beat them too!

 

[SSCF-LeRoy]

Now not only do they beat dead horses, they drag them into other threads to let other people beat them too!

 

Yeah, let's not start down that road please