Topic: To FireSoul and Pestalence (Read 2614 times)

Age · « **on:** February 14, 2005, 02:28:43 pm »

To FireSoul and Pestalence.FireSoul have you ever considered on making an shiplist for EAW I know it is pretty much gone by the way side but there some that are still playing it.They prefer not to invest or don't won't to buy OP online.The shiplist can be pretty much like OP but with out the X ships.This would also include the mini updater esg loop fix and the rest as well as Co op Ace.This is all you have to do FireSoul. Pestalence you talked about making an Enhancement Pack for EAW as I read on other boards there are those that only have EAW game.
These three features would breath life into that game and make it more enjoyable to play much like OP.I hope the two of you will take this under advisement as EAW is still not a bad game.

Strafer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:37:35 pm »

Kinda hard with missing weapons, missing and broken firing arcs and the capacity for ships per class half of what OP now handles.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2005, 02:39:48 pm »

That is putting a lot of work on Firesoul for the shiplist.. he would have to go through and remove all the ships that use firing arcs that are not available in EAW, ships with weapons not available in EAW, along with X-ships.... not to mention limiting all class slots per race to 64 ships or less...

As far as EAW Enhancement Pack, i can build one NP, however the problems are the Mod Chooser and the OP +... both would have to be left out... also bonus would have to be left out (ther bonus missions would be in the patch for EAW anyways).

I would also have to edit the installer some to correctly replace Uni_7BattleGrave.scr and also make sure that EAW has the correct WonServerSetup.gf file to access the Dynaverse.. Plus I would also have to remove Centauri Vaugn's scripts, remove my current script installer and find NW's latest pack for EAW and put it in, and then re-edit OP's MCT files to work with EAW, and also revise Taldren's bugged Conquest Mode batch files and the list goes on..

I could have one built by the next couple of weeks, however i doubt Firesoul would want to strip OP + to make an EAW +.

FireSoul · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2005, 03:27:41 pm »

actually.. I would far rather spend energy on trying to get SFC2:EAW players to try OP out..

Star · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:19:56 pm »

SFC II still l a good game.
A lot of us would love to see SFC2 come back.

FireSoul · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2005, 06:49:46 pm »

Quote from: Star on February 14, 2005, 04:19:56 pm

SFC II still l a good game.
A lot of us would love to see SFC2 come back.

<sales pitch>Try OP. It's still SFC2.

</sales pitch>

KBF-Kurok · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2005, 10:17:25 am »

they are the same game. OP has more ships, pirates as a playable race,better arcs,and much more. Not to mention the fact that almost every one is playing it now. Im not knocking eaw I still have it installed and patched up.I just think that op is the same game with more to it.
JUST MY $.02
Kurok

Age · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2005, 03:14:08 pm »

The reason for me posting this is for those that only have Empire at War and are casual players and play it once in awhile.FireSoul the only ships you have to replace are just the models for the 2036 patch no other infact Pestalence has a model pack but it contains the ugly looking Lyran and Gorn models .The only models you would replace are the stock ones with a few more added like 3 war DDs per race and Romulan BCHs.That is about all.This way you could release OP+ a year and possibly a new model pack for EAW 2036 in same year.This wouldn't be like the OP+ that you work on just an improvement on the models for EAW that is all.
I know there are copies of OP out there but some don't want to buy it online only in retail stores but have EAW.I am glad to have bought mine when I did and used from a PC game rental store and got it for $19.99 +tax the same as EAW.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2005, 03:55:50 pm »

Age, the model pack I include in the OP Enhancement is the Dynaverse 2 Model kit, it is created by Atrahasis and pneumatic81 and it is for both EAW and OP.. It only replaces Fed, Klink and Rom ships and it does not touch any other ships.. the rest are Taldren Stock or what ever the player is currently using...

Age, you seem not to understand OP +

In Orion Pirates, Patch 25410 added more weapon arcs that do not work in Empires and it also expanded the amount of ships that the game engine can recognise.. Orion Pirates can recognize 128 ships per class per race, Empires only recognizes 64 ships per class per race.. 1/2 of what Orion Pirates allows.. Empires does not support Heavy Photons or ESG Lance, and some other weapons, not counting 15 Orion race slots and so forth...

for Firesoul to make an EAW+, he would have to completely redo OP + from scratch to make it work for EAW.. basically his last 2 years of work would have to be completely redone, stripped and re-assembeled...

it would be insane for Firesoul to downgrade his work to fit a game that people can get off Amazon.com for $5.00 US or off of Ebay for $5.00 US..

Orion Pirates is readily available online for purchase for cheap and it would allow them to play casually or online with everyone else..

I can make an enhancement pack for EAW, but it would be about 1/3 of what the OP Enhancement Pack has.. that being said, it is easier for people to just get OP instead of firesoul working for 6 to 8 months redoing OP + into EAW + and it would save me from having to spend the next 2 to 4 weeks building EAW Enhancement...

there is a lot of work in both packages.. firesouls OP + has hundreds of hours invested and is teadious work making up each ship and making sure each ship works in game...

Sorry Age, it just isn't worth that ammount of time when people can send a money order for $5.00 to someone on Ebay and get OP..

Toast · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2005, 08:51:19 am »

Some one did try to spice up eaw once with the sw list partly based off firesouls op+ work and it was rejected, good idea for eaw age but i think someone else would have to do it . So 128 ships per class per race has capacity been reached then? Is that why ships seem to come and go as op+ progresses.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:17:02 am »

Yes.. Taldren allowed OP to use 128 ships per class per race in patch v2.5.3.8 and it has been in OP ever since.. EAW never got this added... This is what allows OP to be modded for ships way more than EAW.

FireSoul · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:28:45 am »

Quote from: [ISC]Toast on February 21, 2005, 08:51:19 am

Some one did try to spice up eaw once with the sw list partly based off firesouls op+ work and it was rejected, good idea for eaw age but i think someone else would have to do it . So 128 ships per class per race has capacity been reached then? Is that why ships seem to come and go as op+ progresses.

It's almost reached for the Hydrans.

Villa64 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:37:55 am »

I just did a quick google search. You can purchase OP for about 4 bucks. Thats about as much change as I have accumulated on my dresser. If you want all the cool stuff that they did with this game, overcome your resistance to purchasing online just this once. It's worth it.

Villa

FireSoul · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:27:24 am »

Do you have a URL?

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:26:06 pm »

Amazon.com has OP new and used ranging from $3.29 for used to $4.29 for new prices go up from there, but the cheapest I have found it.. to match the prices, Ebay works and people on Ebay take money orders most of the time.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:51:54 pm »

Got my last copy on E-bay for 5 bucks...INCLUDING shipping...money order was no problem

Before you buy anything...you can look up the sellers feedbacks to see how they do business...feed backs CANNOT be changed by the seller..

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2005, 02:09:42 pm »

I only bought 1 copy of OP for myself when it first came out.. ever since then, the original copy has only been in my system 2 times.. both times was to make backup copies.. I use the backup copies to install the game.. which is quite often when building Op Enhancement and various mods that I help people with..

Also at times, i make an ISO file on my system and use it on my virtual drive to install.. especially when I am deep into a mod development.. constant install/uninstall.. backups are wonderful.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2005, 12:35:53 am »

I need to get a bit more into OP again and patch it up when my cleaning of my HD is complete. I got mine for over $30 and played it first in Texas back in summer 2001. Works ever since.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2005, 08:32:00 am »

Heh..I suppose I should mention...My original disk works fine also...

I bought a back ups after the wife once threatened to break my SFC disks...

They are still unopened and stored in a VERY safe place....

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