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Offline Sandman3D

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My status...AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
« on: February 09, 2005, 01:46:49 pm »
Well, finally got my new puter working somewhat ok. Have MAX ready to go and PS. :) Unfortunately, I lost quite a bit in the move from old puter to new one...somehow the damn cd=rw got corrupted. >:( Also, new puter running a little hot. Either the mobo sensors are way off, or I need to pop out the cpu and apply some thermal paste. I'm using Motherboard monitor and it shows cpu socket 73C, diode -1C and case 0C. Found out AMD processors run hot anyway, but I want to nip this in the bud so the thing last for more than a year. :P ASUS has an updated BIOS that should help with the sensors, more accurate, but I hate messing with the BIOS. :-\

Anyway, I'll be getting going on something soon, just wanted y'all to know I was still around.

BTW, new puter is:
AMD Sempron 3000+ (Athlon XP 3000+)2.0GHz
256mb DDR
17" flatscreen CRT
Radeon 9200 128mb
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Re: My status...
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 01:50:04 pm »
Since I know jack about modeling, all I can say is that's a respectable rig you've assembled there.  It ought to be pretty fast and still be usable for quite a few years to come.

Enjoy it!
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Re: My status...
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2005, 02:18:19 pm »
you shouldn't worry if you have a asus mainbord they have live update for your bios ... shouldn't be any pain involved ... except perhaps some mentel destabilising but thats ormolu when trying to do something that you usually do very often
... and BTW when you buy an asus mainbord the first thing you should check is a ewer bios build on there site ... they have a thing with them from reason... don't know why...
any hoo good luck in your indever
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Re: My status...
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 03:21:14 am »
Ive got ASUS Mainboard ;D
Athlon 1,333 Ghz
512 DDR
ATI Radeon 9600 ;D

I think ATI Graphic Cards rocks these times ;D
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Re: My status...
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 09:39:59 am »
small systems  :lol:

 no not really just teasing u Sandman
BTW, new puter is:
AMD Sempron 3000+ (Athlon XP 3000+)2.0GHz  very good  even though its under clock a little
256mb DDR    way to little really . u'll need around 1 gig
17" flatscreen CRT  very nice
Radeon 9200 128mb  not a bad little card. a thumbs up from me, even though i go for Nvidia.

my specs lol
AMD Anthlon XP 2800+  2.1Ghz
1 gig ddr 2700 ram
sony trinitron 20 in monitor
Nvidia geforce fx 5200 256 ddr ram
330 gig HD space  250 + 80 gig HD's
1 DVD-+r/DVD-+ r/rw drive  8x
1 DVD-+r/DVD-+ r/rw drive dual layered 16x
wireless connection 
lighted blue neon interior lights hehe

thats just my modeling comp.  wait till i build my new gaming comp.  going to get something  with the AMD FX series processor maybe FX 55 or FX 57 , 2 gig ram ddr 3200 400 mhz, GeForce 6800 GT 256 ddr ram.

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Re: My status...
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 10:09:39 am »
i would suggest you upgrade your cpu fan.  73 C is a bit hot.  my 3.2  p4 runs at 38 C idleing and 45 C underload.  OCed it runs 48 C idle and 55 C underload, and its pretty much common knowledge that P4s run hotter than amd ;) so either ur mobo is liein to ya, or your stock fan really sucks. 

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Re: My status...
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 10:34:05 am »
well if we are comparing computers here maybe i should list mine im sure they arent as good as alot of you guys but it gets the job done

modeling computer
athalon 1800+
512 DDR 2700
ATI 9000 256DDR
120 GB western digital
DVD Rom   (LiteOn 16X)
DVD Buner (HP 8X)

server
intel 1ghz
512 ECC SDRAM
old ATI Rage Pro 16MB (dont need to run graphic on a server)
8x 4.3GB seagate cheetas (total of 32GB)

Laptop
toshiba Tecra 8000
intel 400Mhz
192 MB ram
2.4 MB video (totally sux )
20GB 5400 rpm Hdd

Wifes System
AMD 1600+
512MB SDRAM
120GB Hdd
ATI radeon 7000 64MB DDR


plus alot of spare parts for laptops and desktops
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Re: My status...
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 10:52:50 am »
Whoa!  Sandman!  73 C ??!  I missed that!  That's way too hot!  I know the max temp tolerance for Athlon 64s is about 70-75 C, AND I STRONGLY SUSPECT ATHLON XPs OR SEMPRONs HAVE A LOWER[/color] TEMPERATURE LIMIT!!!

As Tus said, put another fan in there, and quickly!  You will radically shorten the life of your CPU.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 12:11:58 pm »
if i may make a recomendation the JET 7 is a great CPU cooler keeps my 1800 at around 37 degrees  and is speed adjustable and since it is a blower fan there is no dead spot in the center of the cpu like with normal fans
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2005, 07:37:59 pm »
Well, I've been all over the net, and the consensus is that AMD runs higher voltages, which translates into higher temps. But, ASUS has released a BIOS update for the A7V8X series...but, my specific board, A7Z8X-LA isn't listed. One of the things this update corrects is the temp. sensors faulty readings. It has to be the sensors...on the BIOS screen, in hdwr monitor, after a cold startup, it's registering 58C. :P I'm trying to find out if I can use the update for my board. Also, I went to http://www.pcpitstop.com and they identified a lot of programs that were running in the bkgrd that were ok to close out, cutting the load. :)

BTW, I'm planning on getting a 512mb ram stick to add, making total 768mb. :P Then I'm gonna do a HIGH poly model. ;D
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Re: My status...
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 07:47:48 am »
Quote from: Tus on February 10, 2005, 10:09:39 am
i would suggest you upgrade your cpu fan.  73 C is a bit hot.  my 3.2  p4 runs at 38 C idleing and 45 C underload.  OCed it runs 48 C idle and 55 C underload, and its pretty much common knowledge that P4s run hotter than amd ;) so either ur mobo is liein to ya, or your stock fan really sucks. 



YUP ..  I agree ..  I put an extra fan in also.  I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to the tech stuff ..   but I DO know that heat and electronics don't get along too well.  I also beafed up my power supply.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 01:05:08 pm »
Yeah, I'm gonna get a better fan. I also think some of it might be the Asus pwr control settings...fan barely running before I turn on MBM (Motherboard monitor), then ramps up full speed. Here's a look at what it says...
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Re: My status...
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2005, 07:59:05 pm »
Copper heatsink is a must dude....  ;)

3.2gig P4 HT Canterwood O/C to 3.43ghz (stable)
2 gig Corsair matched, TWINX Ram
256MB ATI 2800PRO O/C (Water cooled)
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2005, 09:20:15 pm »
Damn, dude, nice rig! :)
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2005, 10:46:47 am »
Thanks.... im thinking of upgrading very soon, to the pci sli gfx cards, £400 a piece though and they work in pairs...
And a new monitor.... £1100 is allot though for a monitior and two gfx cards.... might have to continue saving for a while yet....  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2005, 10:59:59 am »
Know you understand why marky needs to get promoted at work, just to pay for all that hardware. By the way good luck marky, not that you need it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2005, 11:45:06 am »
Rofl  :D   Your not wrong dude  :D

Just leaving for another week of hell...... 1 down 5 to go..... see ya soon peeps  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2005, 03:00:25 pm »
OK, ordered a new fan/heatsing kit from http://www.coolerguys.com, so I'll let y'all know how she does after I install it. AMD is so confusing...Semprons are listed as Socket 754, but mine turns out to be Socket A. Seems that they took Athlon XP's and adjusted some things then re-packaged as Sempron. Very confusing. :-\

For anyone with a name brand computer with an AMD CPU, I would suggest you replace the heatsink/fan and replace the stock thermal plate with some thermal grease. Save some headaches. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2005, 01:29:22 pm »
OK, well, got the new fan/heatsink and installed...still running at 73c socket, -1c diode and 0c case. AMD lists the critical temp as 90c, but the thing still crashes when playing FL and reports a critical error. I can model though without crashing, so all is not lost. :P
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Re: My status...AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2005, 01:25:10 am »
OK, got the new cpu cooler in, a WhisperRock IV from Spire, and temps still at 73c. So, as per advice from an AMD tech forum, I have to wait for some Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound, then uninstall the cooler, clean old crap off, re-apply new stuff (paper thin, too much will insolate the chip and fry it :-[) the re-install the cooler...if that doesn't work then I have to pay for a $69.95 (US) BIOS upgrade and HOPE that clears the temp problem. Jeez I hate technology. :-X
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Re: My status...AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2005, 04:06:54 pm »
Man, thats wild.... I cant believe they wont do it for you or something... you know, so you don't have to pay for all that crud that shouldn't be having this problem anyhow...
sorry, and good luck
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