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NooBie Hlp.
« on: February 09, 2005, 07:28:53 pm »
ok, got the game, got the patch 534b, got the GaW mod. how can i play other people?  seriously, i have no clue. gamespy kinda sux... and... i cant find anything. ugh, i suck. 

help me?

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 07:40:18 pm »
Hey Shaddow. I'm the guy who talks  to your dad online. First thing you want to do is make sure your patched, got the Mod installed , etc. then log into dynaverse via the Multiplayer option of the game. That will get you into the servers.

I'll have to check and see IF the GAW is up and running right now.

Stephen

PS. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2005, 10:08:16 pm »
ugh, its that damned cannot connect to server thing 90 seconds, 60, 30.....

how around this? im using a router, i dont have the windows firewall on.... wut do i do? ive been reading that Duck guys post, but cant figure out where that Zone thing he messed with is....

lame.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2005, 11:53:58 pm »
What kind of router are you using, and do you have the ports open that are needed.

Stephen
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 06:25:43 pm »
belkin f5d5230-4. didnt see instructions for it. i never installed any software, and i dont know how to change any of its options or open the ports with it.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 07:38:08 pm »
Ok, I'm not that familiar with the Belkin Routers. Let me see what I can dig up from some of the other peeps here.

Stephen
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 07:53:09 pm »
Here's the page at belkin.com that contains info on your router. Page 33 of the manual (pdf document) explains how to open ports. There should have been a disc that came with the router. Oh, there are also some firmware updates. You'll might need those installed to play the game through the router.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 08:02:36 pm »
Thanks for the Info Garreth.

Eventually , I'm going to get ahold of Kroma and Get a Faq wrote on all of this router stuff.

Stephen
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 08:58:00 pm »
ok, i found the place to open the ports, which ones do i need to open? (the page on page 33)

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2005, 09:06:33 pm »
Sorry for posting the whole thing, In abit of a hurry, but I'll highlight the ports.

Does this help?

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Are you on Dial-up or on broadband? if you are on broadband (Cable, DSL, Wireless), on your cable modem, does it have both Ethernet connection and USB.. if so, there is your problem... most Broadband modems that have both type of hook ups have built in routers on the ethernet port of the modem... If your modem is like this and your connected by Ethernet cable, then that would cause a "Firewall" effect on your end concerning the Dyna and GSA connectivity with other players...

Uninstall your cable modem, then reinstall using the USB connection... that should solve your problem... also entering your IP address into your sfc.ini file (if your IP is static [stays the same]) will also help connectivity... also in your SFC 3 folder in Docs in the help folder, read the network_readme.rtf file in wordpad... that will help you have your connection set up...

Also, SFC does not like internet connection sharing to be enabled on your machine.. if more than 1 PC in your home shares the same internet connection, then SFC will work only on the DMZ (main) PC with the proper ports open on the router... the best situation is to disable Internet Connection Sharing and  run your game machine by itself online disconnecting any other PC's sharing the net with you...... see if it works correctly then.

these are just some ideas...

Network readme listed below is the SFC 3 Network readme :

Network Readme for Star Trek Starfleet Command 3

Warning on Updating Firmware

In order to properly configure a router for use with Starfleet Command 3, that router may need the latest firmware from its manufacturer. In particular, the D-Link 704P and Linksys BEFSR41 v.1 referred to in the setup instructions below may not allow users to connect to each other nor to the Dynaverse without this update. Users should first attempt to configure their router per the instructions below, and update their firmware only if they are still unable to connect and play.

Firmware is not software, and there are inherent risks in updating the firmware of a device. Updating the (software) driver for a device will change the way in which the operating system interacts with the device, but changing the device?s firmware will change the functionality of the device itself. Incorrectly altering a router?s firmware may cause the device to function improperly or cease functioning altogether. Users must consult their router?s documentation and the manufacture?s guidelines for updating the firmware for their device, as well as for obtaining the latest version of the firmware. Activision is not responsible for any damage or defect that may result from the improper update of a user?s router firmware.

DMZ Security Warning

Some portions of this document refer to placing the user?s computer in the ?DMZ? area of a router?s network. When in the DMZ, all incoming traffic on all ports is permitted to pass through the router and to that computer, effectively removing a level of security for that system. Users open ports (including placing a system in the DMZ) at their own risk, and Activision is not responsible for any damage that may result from a decrease in the level of security on the user?s network. It is recommended that before placing a computer in the router?s DMZ, that users consult their router?s documentation to better understand the security risks involved in doing so.

How to find IP address of the local machine

In order for the user to properly configure their router as illustrated in the examples below, they will need to determine the IP address for their computer on the router?s local network. Most routers can only place a single computer in the DMZ or designate it as the target of port forwarding, and Starfleet Command 3 requires that any computer behind a router must have the proper ports open by one of these two methods in order to play. Therefore, only one user can play from behind a router or NAT at a time.

The following methods can be used to determine the IP address of the local machine, based on which operating system the user is running on that system.

Under Windows 98 and ME:

1. From the desktop, select the Start Menu, and then select Run.
2. In the dialog box, type winipcfg and select OK. The IP Configuration window should appear.
3. If you have more than one adapter listed in the pull-down menu, select the adapter that connects your computer to the router or NAT (e.g. 3Com Etherlink PCI).
4. Once selected, the information relating to that adapter is displayed in the fields below. The IP Address is the number you will use when entering ?the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3?, as mentioned in the examples in this document.

Under Windows 2000 and XP:

1. From the desktop, select the Start Menu, and then select Run.
2. In the dialog box, type cmd and select OK. An MS-DOS prompt should appear.
3. Type ipconfig, and press Enter. The words Windows IP Configuration should appear followed by information about your connection.
4. The IP Address is the number you will use when entering ?the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3?, as mentioned in the examples in this document. If you have more than one adapter listed (e.g. Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection 2), most routers assign IP addresses in the 192.168.x.x range. Try using this address first.

About router setup:

The following examples are for routers that use an HTML (Web-based) configuration utility, in which the settings can be adjusted through the user?s Internet web browser. Some manufacturers, particularly with older router models, may require the user to make changes to their port configurations through a proprietary application or by some other means. It is highly recommended that users consult the documentation for their specific router before making any changes to these settings. Incorrect settings could result in the inability for other programs, including email and Internet browsers, to function properly.

The following step-by-step examples are for those users who have read their router?s documentation, are comfortable making adjustments to these settings, and would like specific instructions on how to do so for the models listed below. These have been tested and found to work properly on each model, running the latest firmware from the router manufacturer.

As many routers have similar configuration utilities, these instructions may also be used as a general guide or starting point for those with models not listed below.

D-Link 704P

DMZ:

1. From the Device Information page, select Advanced from the bottom row of options.
2. Select Misc. Items from the bottom row of options.
3. For IP Address of DMZ Host, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Then, check the box next to Enable.
4. Select Save.

Port Forwarding:

1. From the Device Information page, select Advanced from the bottom row of options.
2. On the Virtual Server page, under Service Ports, enter the value 6073 for ID 1 (or the first available ID number). Under Server IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Then check the box under Enable.
3. Under Service Ports, enter the value 2302 for ID 2 (or the next available ID number). Under Server IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Then check the box under Enable.
4. Under Service Ports, enter the value 2303 for ID 3 (or the next available ID number). Under Server IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Then check the box under Enable.
5. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and select Save.
6. Scroll to the bottom of the page and select Reboot.


Linksys BEFSR41 v.1

DMZ:

1. From the Setup menu, select the Advanced tab at top of the page.
2. Now select the DMZ Host tab at the top of the page.
3. For DMZ Host IP Address, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
4. Select Apply. Once you receive the Settings Are Successful message, select Continue.

Port Forwarding:

  1. From the Setup menu, select the Advanced tab at top of the page.
2. Now select the Forwarding tab at the top of the page.
3. On the first available line under Server Port Range enter 6073 ~ 6073, under Protocol select UDP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
4. On the next available line under Server Port Range enter 2302 ~ 2302, under Protocol select TCP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
5. On the next available line under Server Port Range enter 2033 ~ 2303, under Protocol select TCP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
6. Scroll to the bottom of the page and select Apply. Once you receive the Settings Are Successful message, select Continue.



Linksys BEFSR81 v.2

DMZ:

1. From the Setup menu, select the Advanced tab at top of the page.
2. Now select the DMZ Host tab at the top of the page.
3. For DMZ Host IP Address, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
4. At the bottom of the page, select Apply. Once you receive the Settings Are Successful message, select Continue.

Port Forwarding:

7. From the Setup menu, select the Advanced tab at top of the page.
8. Now select the Forwarding tab at the top of the page.
9. On the first available line under Server Port Range enter 6073 ~ 6073, under Protocol select UDP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
10. On the next available line under Server Port Range enter 2302 ~ 2302, under Protocol select TCP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
11. On the next available line under Server Port Range enter 2303 ~ 2303, under Protocol select TCP, and under IP Address enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
12. Scroll to the bottom of the page and select Apply. Once you receive the Settings Are Successful message, select Continue.


Netgear FVS318

DMZ:

1. From the Main Menu, select Ports under the Advanced option in the left frame of the page.
2. In the center frame select Default DMZ Server by checking the box to the left of it, and then in the boxes to the right, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
3. Scroll to the bottom of the frame and select Apply.

Port Forwarding:

1. From the Main Menu, select Ports under the Advanced option in the left frame of the page.
2. In the center frame select Line 1 (or the first available line) on the chart by checking the circle to the left of it.
3. Scroll down the frame to the Port Assignment form. In the window next to Service/Game, enter a common language name for the application using the port, such as ?Starfleet Command 3?.
4. In each of the windows next to Start and End Ports, enter the value 6073.
5. In the window next to Server IP Address, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
6. Scroll to the bottom of the frame and select Apply.
7. In the center frame select Line 2 (or the next available line) on the chart by checking the circle to the left of it.
8. Scroll down the frame to the Port Assignment form. In the window next to Service/Game, enter a common language name for the application using the port, such as ?Starfleet Command 3?.
9. In each of the windows next to Start and End Ports, enter the value 2302.
10. In the window next to Server IP Address, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
11. Scroll to the bottom of the frame and select Apply.
12. In the center frame select Line 3 (or the next available line) on the chart by checking the circle to the left of it.
13. Scroll down the frame to the Port Assignment form. In the window next to Service/Game, enter a common language name for the application using the port, such as ?Starfleet Command 3?.
14. In each of the windows next to Start and End Ports, enter the value 2303.
15. In the window next to Server IP Address, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3.
16. Scroll to the bottom of the frame and select Apply.


Siemens SS2614

DMZ:

1. From the Main Menu, select Advanced Setup on the left side of the page.
2. Read the Advanced Setup warning message, and then select Enter.
3. Select Firewall under Advanced Settings on the left side of the page. Make sure the Advanced Settings | Firewall option is set to No, then select Enter.
4. Select Misc under Advanced Settings on the left side of the page.
5. Under Advanced Settings | Miscellaneous, set the IP Address of Virtual DMZ Host as the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Then, check the box next to Enable. Select Enter.

Port Forwarding:

1. From the Main Menu, select Advanced Setup on the left side of the page.
2. Read the Advanced Setup warning message, and then select Enter.
3. Select Firewall under Advanced Settings on the left side of the page. Make sure the Advanced Settings | Firewall option is set to No, then select Enter.
4. Select Virtual Server under Advanced Settings on the left side of the page.
5. On Line 1 (or the first open line number) under Private IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under Private Port enter 6073, under Type select UDP, and under Public Port enter 6073.
6. On Line 2 (or the next open line number) under Private IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under Private Port enter 2302, under Type select TCP, and under Public Port enter 2302.
7. On Line 3 (or the next open line number) under Private IP, enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under Private Port enter 2303, under Type select TCP8, and under Public Port enter 2303.
8. Scroll to the bottom of the page and select Enter.

Norton Personal Firewall

If Norton Personal Firewall has been installed using the default settings, it will detect when any unrecognized or new program, such as Starfleet Commander 3, attempts to access the Internet. Each time SFC3 attempts to connect to the Internet on a unique port, the Internet Access Control window will appear, prompting the user to set the access level for that program. If the user selects ?Permit this application to access the Internet?, and then selects OK for each, the access level will be set the first time the user connects to the Dynaverse, and no further action is needed.

This detection can be preempted by setting the access level for SFC3 before starting the game. To do this, launch Norton Personal Firewall, and select Internet Access Control. Select Add, and the ?Select an application to configure its Internet access? window should appear. Next, double-click on ?Star Trek Starfleet Command III?, and then select ?Play Star Trek Starfleet Command III?. Select Open, and the Internet Access Control window should appear. Select ?Permit this application to access the Internet? and then OK. The Choose Application Category window should now appear, and unless the user has a preference, they should select ?General? as the category and then OK.

These instructions pertain to Norton Personal Firewall 2002, and other versions may require other steps or the prompts and dialogue may be worded differently. If using another version, consult the documentation and proceed using the above instructions as a guide.

Windows XP Firewall

If you are running the built-in firewall provided by Windows XP to secure your Internet connection, you can allow Starfleet Command 3 work through this application without disabling it altogether.

1. From the desktop, select Start, then Settings, then Control Panel.
2. From the Control Panel, select Network and Internet Connections.
3. Now select Network Connections. Icons representing each of your installed network connections will now be displayed. For some users, there may be only one.
4. The connection that is protected by the Windows XP firewall will appear with a small, yellow padlock in the icon. Right-click on the ?padlocked? connection, and select Properties.
5. Select the Advanced tab at the top of the Properties window.
6. Under Advanced, select Settings.
7. Under Advanced Settings, make sure the Services tab is selected. Now select Add.
8. In the Service Settings window, under Description of Service, type Starfleet Command 6073. Under Name or IP Address? enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under External Port number for this service enter 6073. Under Internal Port number for this service enter 6073. Select UDP by clicking on the circle next to it. Select OK.
9. The service should now appear in the list as Starfleet Command 6073, with the box next to it checked.
10. In the Service Settings window, under Description of Service, type Starfleet Command 2302. Under Name or IP Address? enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under External Port number for this service enter 2302. Under Internal Port number for this service enter 2302. Select TCP by clicking on the circle next to it. Select OK.
11. The service should now appear in the list as Starfleet Command 2302, with the box next to it checked.
12. In the Service Settings window, under Description of Service, type Starfleet Command 2303. Under Name or IP Address? enter the IP address of the computer on which you will be playing SFC3. Under External Port number for this service enter 2303. Under Internal Port number for this service enter 2303. Select TCP by clicking on the circle next to it. Select OK.
13. The service should now appear in the list as Starfleet Command 2303, with the box next to it checked.
14. Once all three services have been added, select OK on the Advanced Settings window.
15. Select OK to close the Properties window.
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2005, 09:08:56 pm »
Sorry didn't mean to make that sound like I was shouting, but to Draw your atten to It. It will be the same ports on a Belkin or anyother Router.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2005, 10:07:21 pm »
this is lame. i cant get it to work. maybe its just not meant to be.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2005, 11:44:44 pm »
As a short term suggestion (very short term) try placing your pc in the DMZ. That was a few pages before page 33. See if the game will work with your pc there. If it does, then the ports that need to be opened aren't, or at least aren't getting through.

Double check the belkin manual to see if your router has an internal firewall. some do. I didn't notice if that one did or not when I skimmed through it. If it does, turn it off at least for the test.

btw, you wouldn't happen to be using WinXP would you?
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2005, 03:20:41 am »
Routers suck hard for some games. This is one.

The Zone Alarm settings i did was preety simple really.
I open up ZA, and on the "firewall" tab, i saw the Internet and Trusted zone security levels on HIGH. I just turne dthem down to medium. and boom i play. After game i turn em back up.

My mate has a router and some games he cant play as well. Such as Aoe2:conqs on msn zone or setting up his own CS Source Server. He found away around the router by Forwarding my IP in.... hmmmm but i dobut it'll hep ur case, cause u'll never know every players ip....

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2005, 06:27:43 pm »
yah, i did that stuff. i did the dmz thing, and it still is the sux. oh well, ive given up. for now.

i do have a linksys hub, could try that, but it messed up out network last time, thats why we got the router. this blows.

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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2005, 10:53:52 pm »
Have you tried the game without the router? You need to try that and see if it's the router or...WinXP perhaps? I know there's an issue with one of the required ports being taken by WinXP. I'll have to see if I can find that info. Of course, if you aren't using WinXP, then I'm just blabbing.
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2005, 01:38:46 am »
xp pro. router.

have 2-3 other comps on it, cant really take it off.. for too long..... :)

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2005, 02:36:17 pm »
Somehow I suspected WinXP Pro was involved.

Oh, and I didn't mean take the router out of the loop for a long time. Just long enough to see if you can play online without the router. Shouldn't take more than 20-25 minutes. Process of trial and elimination. If it's the router, the game will work without it, if it's something else it won't work without it. That will let us figure out where to go next.
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Re: NooBie Hlp.
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2005, 01:50:45 am »
Kinda old topic, but have you let it time out completly? like all the way, from

90
60
30

then it should check for an outside ip and for some people using a router (including me) it will use your outside ip adress and work fine

hopefully this helps