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OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« on: February 02, 2005, 05:29:36 pm »
Yep, you read that right, the series is cancelled..


Read more http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/9469.html

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2005, 05:37:08 pm »

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 :o :o :o

Yep, you read that right, the series is cancelled..


Read more http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/9469.html


  :( :) ;D ;D

Let's hope this marks the end of Trek's dark age

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 05:40:12 pm »
Looks like I will have to find something else to watch on Fridays....:p

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 05:51:47 pm »
That's easy Anthsco: Tune to the Sci-fi channel.  You have Stargate: SG-1, Stargate: Atlantis, and Battlestar Galactica (new version).

People say we're going to go to a dark age of Star Trek.  I think people are exaggeratingly pessimistic, perhaps too much for Trek's own good.  I'm going to quote what I had said in another thread before this news:

To tell the truth, I was one of those who gave up on Enterprise.  But I'm thinking of going back to watching Enterprise again.  I guess it's not as bad as I thought.  I'd still like to think that Masao Okazaki's Pre-TOS website (Starfleet Museum) has a better timeline of Trek than Enterprise, but I'm sure I'll be entertained by Season 4 reruns and the upcoming newer episodes to not care about canon this or continuity that...

But don't grow pessimistic over Star Trek's future.  Enterprise might go on for a fifth season.  And even if it doesn't, we'll still have the novels, the past shows, the movies, the websites, etc.  Star Trek won't die out, and it's existance could be majorly fan-based.  I wonder however if the future of Trek is more of heading that way as we converse on this forum, with fanfilms such as Starship Exeter and Star Trek: New Voyages.  My main point here I'm trying to make is that Enterprise won't be Star Trek's death.  It might hurt, but like in Trek's World War III, it's not the end.  It's just a hurtle onto heading for a brighter future.  That's why I majorly like Star Trek; It's optimism.  People are really lacking it here, and I'm really disappointed.  Whether Enterprise is canceled or not, I believe Star Trek won't die out.  Not with a fan base as big as what Trek has.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 05:56:11 pm »
 ;D ;)

I was being overly dramatic and sarcastic...I already switch to the scifi cahnnel as it is, but you just try watching anything with a year old kid running around the house...

Still, I am a little disappointed.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 06:11:03 pm »
Awwww, what a shame. NOT!! :P

Now maybe we'll get a good Trek show. :-\
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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 06:46:16 pm »
I think Enterprise was about to get to its prime with neat plans like a Mirror Universe episode being a sequel to "The Tholian Web" (TOS) and a prequel to "Mirror, Mirror" (TOS)... That'd be fun to watch when it's done.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 07:03:07 pm »
Oh, was Enterprise still on?  I didn't notice, what with Sci-Fi channel showing good programs on Fridays. 

I'm glad the show's dead.  They just don't know how not to screw it up.  It seems like every time I start thinking, "this is pretty decent," they tack on a nasty little stinger at the end, like the Nazi Reman or the Romulans on Vulcan.  Star Trek needs to take a five-ten year break and then let some new people come in.  Right now, the franchise is just ruined.



Actually, I've had a little fantasy.  On the Enterprise-D, we see Barkley stepping out of the Holodeck.  Troi comes up, and says something along the lines of: "Alright, this has got to stop.  All those holo-novels about the Delta Quadrant and made up history are bad enough, but these stories about Kirk falling off a bridge and a Borg Queen and Remans, that's just going too far.  If you keep making up fantasies about the Enterprise, I'm going to recommend that you be committed."

Then couple of Romulan Warbirds show up and blow that ugly-ass ship to hell.  That was the only scene in the past few movies that I actually enjoyed.



No offense to TNG fans, it's just my personal subjective opinion, but I hated that ship from the first time I saw it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 07:10:54 pm »
I guess we share different tastes.  I like the Galaxy-class actually.  I was a TNG fan (still am), but wasn't a DS9 fan, and Voyager had its good moments in the first few seasons, and Enterprise was doing badly up-until recently.

Oh, and related threads concerning cancellation are here and here.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2005, 07:29:30 pm »
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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2005, 09:21:42 pm »
trek needs a break...we need to not do anything with it for about 10-20 years then revisit it.
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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2005, 10:05:43 pm »
We might as well help kill off the SFC community and other Star Trek-related communities then, Fury.  I don't believe Trek needed a break, at least nowhere near that long a break.  If a break must happen, a year or two tops.

What it needs is its original spirit back, the kind-of spirit people found in TOS, what connected with the audience since then.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2005, 10:44:23 pm »
We might as well help kill off the SFC community and other Star Trek-related communities then, Fury.  I don't believe Trek needed a break, at least nowhere near that long a break.  If a break must happen, a year or two tops.

What it needs is its original spirit back, the kind-of spirit people found in TOS, what connected with the audience since then.

He probably means a break from TV and movies, something that Trek really needs

The blitzkrieg of Trek which we experienced over extended Trek's qaulity.

Trek can and and should continue through books/games. some of the authors are far more creative than the writers of live action Trek have been recently.

A 2 year break is a tad short considering that ENT would still be on peoples minds, a ten year break would serve many positive purposes

1. Time to find out what went wrong
2. Time to develop stricter continuity controls so "Trekqueda" won't be up in arms about continuity issues
3. Time to brainstorm new original ideas
4. Time for the fans to forget "Enterprise" and "Nemesis"

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2005, 10:53:21 pm »
If you ask me, I'll still be optimistic about Trek's future as I had with Humanity's future.  But not everyone has:

But it isn't their biggest cash cow anymore, particularly on television and in the movie theaters, the two things that drive everything else in the franchise.  Plans for an eleventh Trek feature has been put on hiatus.  Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, the two creators of ENT who stepped back from the franchise this year to pursue other projects, are coming back to write the season finale, suggesting it could also be a series finale.  Les Moonves, co-president of Viacom, has suggested that the franchise needs a break.  This literally is it; Trek for the next ten or twenty years could hinge on whether or not the studio axes ENT in May.  Once that happens, it'll be like the dark ages of the 70s all over again, but even worse, because not only will the studio not be interested in re-starting the franchise, but a lot of fans won't, either.

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2005, 02:22:29 am »
  >:( I wish they wouldn't cancel Enterprise....not at this point in the Star Trek Timeline.The freaking Human/Romulan War is about to break out!!! The writers have tons of material now that they've finally gotten the show on track with the established Trek timeline! If I recall correctly, the war starts in 2156 and ends in 2160. If they stick with it, the war will give Enterprise the super elixir it needs....just like the Dominion War did with DS9! I can't believe that the Big Cheeses up there haven't put 2 and 2 together and figured out that Trek Wars= Better Ratings! If those bastards end Enterprise after ticking off their fan base with 3+ seasons of temporal crap and a c0(K tease finale of the beginnings of the Romulan war, they better damn well cover it in a movie or start another series that picks up where Enterprise left off or a lot of people are going to jump off the Star Trek fan train!  

I bet the producers over at Stargate and Battlestar Galactica are just loving this.........the end of the Golden Age of Star Trek! If Rick Berman and Brannon Braga don't do something soon to "unscrew" the Star Trek franchiase, these other two series are going to completely absorb their fan base!

Ohhhh....btw FedRebel.......so long as the Reman Warbird is used in any of the Star Trek games, people won't forget about Nemesis.....lol!

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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2005, 04:27:56 am »
They should end the show with Archer waking up right before his warp trials and realizing it was all a dream. Have him report to a hanger and climb into the tester smile to himself.........and say somethiing like " The human adventure is about to begin. " This would validate that NONE of it ( Enterprise ) ever happened and the sometime down the raod Paramount can get it right.

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2005, 07:19:18 am »
This is bad news....Enterprise was getting good.  I've looked forward to every episode this season. How can absolute dross like that new religousstar galactica get made and Enterprise gets cancelled. 

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2005, 07:40:28 am »
I'm sorry guys ...  I'm really sick of people ruining the show down because they hated the ship ..  heck the ship was great  !!  many of you hated it because of what background ????

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Yes there were some things hey did wrong ..   like constantly going into the future ( really bad move)...

But there were a number of things they did right !!

1.  the ship  ...  great move ...  ( I don't give a rats ass what you think !!)
2.  the development of the relationship between the Vulcans and the Humans ..  especially this las season.
3.  the development of the "Federation" ..  I'm personally looking forward to the next show ...  I thought the last few episodes were great ...  and I'm looking forward to see what happens next.

Simply because many of you hate the idea of applying better TV technology to the series and it was not developed to another "philosophy" ( not mentioning any other games or groups here) ... does not make the show wrong.

I guess I've had my fill lately of the all the negative  crap and being told to take a back seat while others who really know what's going on should be the ones to take over ...

frankly ....   BULL XXXX

Sorry guys ... I guess I'm just a bit bent out of sorts.

BTW ..  if any of you are interested in who the "Akira" was designed ..  and some of the thoughts on that subject ..  I can post it on another thread  ... ( this weekend)


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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 01:01:49 pm »
I'm not gonna get into any of these arguments about the show and many of you liked it and you're entitled to your opinion. I hated it and can only say w00t! about the demise of Ent. This news has been the cherry-on-the-cake of my relatively pleasant day.

I'm off to watch some quality SciFi - Battlestar Galactica, SG-1 and maybe some old DS9 eps.
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Re: OT-ENTERPRISE has been cancelled!
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2005, 02:06:44 pm »
I wasn't saying that I hate Enterprise per say F9thOlbuzzard! It's just that like all Trek series....the first few seasons are kind of slow because the writers are trying to better develop the characters. Unfortunately with Voyager and Enterprise, it took a little too long...... over 3 seasons for the series to get good and as a result, it turned a lot of people off. I want Enterprise to continue now that it's just starting to get to the stuff (ex. Human/Romulan War and the formation of the Federation). I just wish that the writers would have taken the opportunity to build up to it instead of farting around with all the "temporal cold war" crap. They really tripped over themselves doing that. If the writers had any common sense, they would have saved the "temporal cold war" plot for a futuristic Star Trek Series (like 27th or 29th century based series) and stuck to the basics in Enterprise.

Btw Digi.........the new Battlestar Galactica Series rocks! I'm getting sick and tired of hearing people complain about some of the changes that the writers made! I've followed the old series since I was in diapers and I have no qualms about some of the things that they changed around in the new one! Who cares if they said that Cyclons were created by humans instead of an alien race? Who cares if they changed Starbuck and Boomer's sex? Who cares if they made Boomer a Cylon? I think that some of these changes willl add some interesting twists on the series! Besides, the core story is still there! I just wish that some of the old school BSG fans would put aside their archaic ways, pull the poles out of their @$$es, and move into the 21st Century!