Topic: <sigh>...Ya know, not to long ago...

[762_XC]

As much as I credit any server admin for trying something out-of-the-box, I sincerely hope this is the last 3-sided campaign ever.

It just never works.

[FPF-DieHard]

As much as I credit any server admin for trying something out-of-the-box, I sincerely hope this is the last 3-sided campaign ever.

It just never works.

NO!!!!  "AOTK2:  The Wrath of J'inn" has to be 3-4 sides!!!

(J'inn, we'll talk about the 4th side later . . . .)

[KAT J'inn]

As much as I credit any server admin for trying something out-of-the-box, I sincerely hope this is the last 3-sided campaign ever.

It just never works.

NO!!!!  "AOTK2:  The Wrath of J'inn" has to be 3-4 sides!!!

(J'inn, we'll talk about the 4th side later . . . .)

Smart J'inn a/k/a Ren:    Don't do it J'inn!!

Stupid J'inn a/k/a Stimpy:   But gosh it sounds like fun.

Ren:    STIMPY YOU EEEEDIOT!!!  *SMACK*  Die Hard always gets you in trouble.

Stimpy:   But gee Ren I just wanna have fun.

Ren:  Go have fun with your nose goblins and quit getting into trouble.

Stimpy:   Boring!

Ren:   Well you could go play with your litterbox.

Stimpy:    JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!  <scampers off>   Ohhh Die Hard!   Let's talk shop in my new and improved catbox office.

Ren:  STIMPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hexx]

Oh NO You Don't

The Lyrans were allied with J'inn on THIS server.

We're not making the same mistake again.

[FPF-DieHard]

Oh NO You Don't

The Lyrans were allied with J'inn on THIS server.

We're not making the same mistake again.

F-G-H versus K-R versus L-I-Z.   
Econs of 4-4-4 versus 6-6 versus 4-4-4

What can POSSIBLY go wrong?   

[Commander Maxillius]

me with skill flying ISC?


to make it fair though, I'll only fly early era ships, the ones that can move

[Hexx]

Oh NO You Don't

The Lyrans were allied with J'inn on THIS server.

We're not making the same mistake again.

F-G-H versus K-R versus L-I-Z.   
Econs of 4-4-4 versus 6-6 versus 4-4-4

What can POSSIBLY go wrong?   

So J'inns flying Gorn I assume?

[Sirgod]

OK everyone, It's good to see alot of Ligth heardedness Going on after what could have potentially A problem. One of these Days I'd love to get back on a server with you all If I can ever get past my Firewall.

But I want everyone to see what this Server has done to Poor Poor Dizzy. Personaly I appload you all from what I've heard of the sportsmanship, But poor Dizzy... Sniff.



Even Kroma has had a Hard time with this.



Stephen

[Pestalence_XC]

OK everyone, It's good to see alot of Ligth heardedness Going on after what could have potentially A problem. One of these Days I'd love to get back on a server with you all If I can ever get past my Firewall.

But I want everyone to see what this Server has done to Poor Poor Dizzy. Personaly I appload you all from what I've heard of the sportsmanship, But poor Dizzy... Sniff.



Even Kroma has had a Hard time with this.



Stephen

Stephen, why not just turn the Firewall off to play on the server or ask someone here with a similar firewall on how to set up?

[Sirgod]

I said Firewall and I meant Router. My Bad. I have khalees machine running through my Router also, Or else I would just Bypass It.

Stephen

[GDA-S'Cipio]

I said Firewall and I meant Router. My Bad. I have khalees machine running through my Router also, Or else I would just Bypass It.

Stephen

What kind of router do you have?  I currently play through a Linksys router, with two other computers attached.

-S'Cipio

[Sirgod]

I have a WRT54G router if this helps. The problem is, I have to Mirror my IP To get any access with any Combination of Multible PCs.

For the longest time, I thought this was Due to running wireless, but even with wires Connected,  I seem to have the same Problem Behind alot of online games. Khalee BTW doesn't have a wireless card and is running win2k , I'm on Win XP home. I could put Pro or Corp either one on though If need be.

The other Problem I have found with the set up, is File sharing amongst my Home Network (Even when the wifes PC was hooked up) , was disconnected. Couldn't share anything.

If this helps, I would Greatly appreciate It more then you guys can Imagine.

Stephen

[el-Karnak]

...right after the end of GW4, we were all patting ourselves on the back for getting along so well.  No real flamage between the sides, RM's dealt with player problems with little fuss, springer chat was slapped down by the respective leaderships...I guess it was too much to hope that it would last.

I'm vastly disappointed.  In all of us.

I'm disappointed that all of the new players that we worked so hard to get to come and play on D2 have to see us at our worst.

I'm disappointed that Alliance players allowed their tempers to get the better of them and aired issues in public instead of working on solutions privately.

I'm disappointed that Coalition players didn't stop to think that they would have been in the same frame of mind as the Alliance if the issue at hand had happened to them.

I'm disappointed that that ISC players felt the need respond with insults, instead of trying to understand the issue from the Alliance perspective.

I'm disappointed that the server admin chose to exacerbate the problem instead of seeking an amiable solution.

I'm disappointed that certain Coalition members could not be team players and abide by the terms of the treaty that their team agreed to in good faith.  D2 campaigns are by nature a team game.  You want to play for yourself, go to GSA and leave us alone.

Most of all, I'm disappointed in my own lack of leadership.  I should have grabbed this tiger by the tail immediately and tried to work privately with the principals involved to solve the issue instead of letting it spiral out of control.  I should have told my RM's to STFU and let me handle it.  I should have protested the ISC and Coalition being able to sign a treaty*, as it contravenes the spirit of the RP nature of the campaign, and now, coupled with the ISC let loose upon the Gorn, has only served to heighten feelings of Alliance persecution*.  I should have been more vigilant in my responsibilities.  I tried, but it wasn't enough, and I knew it wasn't.

*Before any ISC player brings up the Alliance/Coalition Treaty, or anyone scorns the use of the term "feelings of Alliance persecution", let me say this;  1. The terms of the A/C treaty made sure there were "free-fire" zones all through the NZ that the Alliance and Coalition could fight over, so that the ISC would not be wiped out in the first week of the server by both of us concentrating solely on them; also, that I, as Alliance SAC, ignored the more strident calls from some in the Alliance to completly wipe the ISC from the map (and I get the feeling that Will had similar thoughts, although we didn't talk directy about it);  2.  During the first few days of the server, the ISC deepstiked nine Alliance bases, and only three Coalition.  What does that say to you?  I know what it says to me.

After SG04 concludes, I think I'll take a vacation for awhile, and let all this dross die away in my mind.  Maybe by the time I come back we'll all have come to our senses.

-Wanderer

Did SG4 turn out like a SFC3 server? :O

Anyway, I know there's two sides to every story so I hope it all worked out in the end. 

But, I would like to respectfully add to the historical record of the server that was SG4 that I bear witness to a player that did show leadership at the beginnings of SG4 that is not readily apparent in the public domain.  FPF-FatherTed took the time to listen when it counted. For that, I believe he helped out the campaign.

If FatherTed needs vouching for any business that deals with the GFL or SGODEV, he won't have any trouble getting one from me.

[Kroma BaSyl]

Did SG4 turn out like a SFC3 server? :O

No, least flamy to date in fact. Much fun.