Topic: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??  (Read 5488 times)

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Dizzy,

I think everybody who is playing SGO4 need some clarification here.  Is there any truth to the rumor that the ISC are exempt from equal pacification vs the Gorn for round 2.?  If so why haven't all players been made aware that this is the case?  If this is the case then you should pick a specific Coalition race to apply this "NEW" rule to as well don't you think?
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 07:12:10 pm »
Dizzy,

I think everybody who is playing SGO4 need some clarification here.  Is there any truth to the rumor that the ISC are exempt from equal pacification vs the Gorn for round 2.?  If so why haven't all players been made aware that this is the case?  If this is the case then you should pick a specific Coalition race to apply this "NEW" rule to as well don't you think?


Nope. No one else has fulfilled the "conditions". All is correct. Please ignore the man behind the curtain. ;)

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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 07:14:12 pm »
Rumors. There is still unfinished roleplay business between the Organians and the ISC. You will find out in good time. And whatever change happens, it doesnt have to be fair or equal or anything other than what it is. Take it for what you want.

You will find your answer in another thread soon enough. Till then, business as usual.


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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 07:20:25 pm »
Rumors. There is still unfinished roleplay business between the Organians and the ISC. You will find out in good time. And whatever change happens, it doesnt have to be fair or equal or anything other than what it is. Take it for what you want.

You will find your answer in another thread soon enough. Till then, business as usual.



Hmm, seems the ice is very thin over here.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 07:26:09 pm »
Rumors. There is still unfinished roleplay business between the Organians and the ISC. You will find out in good time. And whatever change happens, it doesnt have to be fair or equal or anything other than what it is. Take it for what you want.

You will find your answer in another thread soon enough. Till then, business as usual.



Dizzy why would you go out of your way to state that "it doesn't have to be fair or equal"  aren't those 2 of the things you should strive for while admining a server?
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 07:26:47 pm »
So skate softly.

And I'd like everyone to stop worrying about little things and stop complaining so much about this or that. stfu and play! Not saying you are complaining, Bach, I understand you are looking for clarification, so that's not thrown at u...

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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 07:36:24 pm »
I'm not sure I like where this is headed, I will however reserve judgement until whatever is going to happen actually happens.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 08:26:06 pm »
Nope. No one else has fulfilled the "conditions". All is correct. Please ignore the man behind the curtain. ;)

Hmph.  There were no "conditions" listed anywhere.

Hey, Mr. Organian, remember that it was the Klingons who attacked your planet first!  We merely saw your DV drop from 50 to 48, and then we came to save you.

With us, you will have a choice in how you live your new lives.  You would have none with the Klingons.  They are a military dictatorship, to which war is a way of life.  We offer you protection.  I've seen what the Klingons do with planets like yours.  They are organized into vast slave labor camps.  You will have no freedom whatsoever.  Your goods will be confiscated.  Hostages will be taken and killed.  Your leaders will be confined.  You'd be better off on a penal planet.

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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 08:58:34 pm »
Translation . . . .


Gorn are screwed.



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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2005, 09:01:54 pm »

Hmph.  There were no "conditions" listed anywhere.

Hey, Mr. Organian, remember that it was the Klingons who attacked your planet first!  We merely saw your DV drop from 50 to 48, and then we came to save you.

With us, you will have a choice in how you live your new lives.  You would have none with the Klingons.  They are a military dictatorship, to which war is a way of life.  We offer you protection.  I've seen what the Klingons do with planets like yours.  They are organized into vast slave labor camps.  You will have no freedom whatsoever.  Your goods will be confiscated.  Hostages will be taken and killed.  Your leaders will be confined.  You'd be better off on a penal planet.

-S'Cipio

Pffft.
You know it was Kroma's plot for many "slave beings"! He goes through cabin boys like Hexx through "lift" shoes.
We fine coalition folks (seeing as Hexx thinks I'd be better off as a Rom than a Lyran <sniff>, we are all one voice) would never have visited the indignities on the population of Orgainia that you foul walking leather products have!
We of the coalition will join our peace loving ISC brothers and sisters in punishing the foul empire hungry alliance despots!
FREEDOM FOR ORGAINIA!
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2005, 09:06:18 pm »
All the crap that was posted and this little bit was in there?

Amazing how much whining can get a race. ::)
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2005, 09:13:28 pm »
Ah, I get it... another screw the freds side campaign.... ::)
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2005, 09:16:52 pm »

 You will find out in good time.


Translation: I'm still making up the rules as I go along


 And whatever change happens, it doesnt have to be fair or equal or anything other than what it is.


Translation: No translation required, here we have in writing confirmation of the deliberately unbalanced nature of this server. In my humble opinion, this would be called a gross lack of diplomatic skills and is wriiten with a tone of arrogance and contempt for those making genuine enquiries.

This goes too far, you have stepped over the line with this, Dizzy, way over.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2005, 09:20:29 pm »
You guys just need to read between the lines  ;D

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Organia. This system is of absolutely no military or economic value whatsoever, yet the signifigance the ISC place on occupying it would suggest otherwise. For one reason or another, the ISC regard this system as a 'second capitol in the west'.
 

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The side that takes this planet is in very big trouble.  Why do you think the coalition didn't take it.  We started then the High Command order the operation halted because of this.  It was decided to let the alliance have it to see what would happen.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2005, 09:23:12 pm »

 You will find out in good time.


Translation: I'm still making up the rules as I go along


 And whatever change happens, it doesnt have to be fair or equal or anything other than what it is.


Translation: No translation required, here we have in writing confirmation of the deliberately unbalanced nature of this server. In my humble opinion, this would be called a gross lack of diplomatic skills and is wriiten with a tone of arrogance and contempt for those making genuine enquiries.

This goes too far, you have stepped over the line with this, Dizzy, way over.

Uhmm usually I try not to ask questions when people say silly things.
But how is it you guys are now complaining of  "unbalance" when we stomped the ISC for the first week?
Next week will likely see the coalition get stomped.

Am I the only person who still plays the game to have fun and doesn't really care if my side wins or loses?

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be you ISC, Alliance or Coaltion.

STFU and play the game for fun.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2005, 09:25:21 pm »
It was predicted that Dizzy would try to pull another stunt like this, no one was completely in the dark about it, however, it was never stipulated exactly what would happen before the campaign commenced. Therefore this constitutes a mid server rules change, a deliberate one. This is untenable and unjustified.
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2005, 09:30:30 pm »
You guys just need to read between the lines  ;D

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Organia. This system is of absolutely no military or economic value whatsoever, yet the signifigance the ISC place on occupying it would suggest otherwise. For one reason or another, the ISC regard this system as a 'second capitol in the west'.
 

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The side that takes this planet is in very big trouble.  Why do you think the coalition didn't take it.  We started then the High Command order the operation halted because of this.  It was decided to let the alliance have it to see what would happen.

Because Coaliton High Command DID read between the lines...that and we knew how dastardly Dizzy is!  :P
We had strong suspicions about retribution if we took it...
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2005, 09:46:20 pm »
It was predicted that Dizzy would try to pull another stunt like this, no one was completely in the dark about it, however, it was never stipulated exactly what would happen before the campaign commenced. Therefore this constitutes a mid server rules change, a deliberate one. This is untenable and unjustified.


There have never been secret VC's before? There have never been secret objectives before? How in the hell would the ISC have a chance of anything at all if we told you that conquering Organia would enable us to attack with impunity? Seems to me Krueg and Co. figured it out without much trouble. Between complaints, have you ever actually read[/i] the server description?

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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2005, 09:58:27 pm »
*yawn*
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Re: HEY DIZZY,ISC Exempt from Equal pacification on the Gorn for round 2??
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2005, 10:02:06 pm »
If this was the other way round, the Coalition would be bitching and moaning all the way.

If a rule is hidden, how is it possible to ask people to follow it?


If this happened on D3 there'd be murder. And rightly so- mid server rules changes are bad calls *anyway*. For it to be hidden, is total BS, any way you slice it.


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