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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2005, 10:42:49 am »
Actually I always carry skates with me in case a hockey game breaks out.

Well, yeah.  But you're Canadian, eh.  Thus we overlook your weirdness, eh?

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2005, 10:45:14 am »
Actually I always carry skates with me in case a hockey game breaks out.

Well, yeah.  But you're Canadian, eh.  Thus we overlook your weirdness, eh?

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2005, 10:52:49 am »

Trusted impartial third party, you know like Jinn.


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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2005, 11:51:14 am »
Likely Kroma is correct in his assessment of the usefulness of a trusted third party.  Yet I have never found myself in any major campaign over the last 3 years in which I could not find at least one player on each side whom I could trust.  I'd simply PM them or catch em on MSN and get their take, their word would be good enough for me.

As for hidden conditons, they may be full of peril, but if people control their tempers and realize it is a game they wouldn't be nearly the big deal that they turn into.  I remember the "Uber Ships" of RDSL and the stir they caused on a server where an announced condition came into play and how players reacted to that.  Many got mad and left, some for good, but a few others sucked it up and continued onward and pulled out the server albeit barely, proud to say I was one of those so I'm not preaching something I didn't practice. 

I left GW2 when the server was reset and the rules were changed because as Scippy said I came to play on one server and another took its place.  I couldn't have any more fun on it.  Why?, because I felt any victory or defeat would have a taint to it as the results would be affected by a midserver change initiated after a result manifested itself.  In this case, however, no actual change was made, as Dizzy had planned this from Day 1.  Now I can understand frustration from those who didn't realize that such conditions might apply, and if they wish to leave due to finding a different game than the one they had signed up for, it is definately their right to do so, and I won't fault them for it.

However, those who claim discrimination against one side or have conspiracy theories of hidden agendas are totally in the wrong and owe Dizzy an apology for such accusations.  I think they are acting disgracefully.  I would suggest that if they have such theories they just contact someone on the other side whom they can trust and ask for simple verification rather than go ranting such drivel.  And if they don't have someone they can trust on the other side, likely one of their own teammates does.  If they and their teammates still can't find a player that is trusted on the other side, I suggest that they quit the game as they shouldn't be playing it with people that they can't give the benefit of the doubt to, and if they haven't built friendships across racial and allied lines, something if likely wrong with them and they should consult a mental health professional.

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2005, 12:13:01 pm »
  I would suggest that if they have such theories they just contact someone on the other side whom they can trust and ask for simple verification rather than go ranting such drivel.  And if they don't have someone they can trust on the other side, likely one of their own teammates does.  If they and their teammates still can't find a player that is trusted on the other side, I suggest that they quit the game as they shouldn't be playing it with people that they can't give the benefit of the doubt to, and if they haven't built friendships across racial and allied lines, something if likely wrong with them and they should consult a mental health professional.

Even back in the "old days", Dogmatix and I had trust.  We might not of agreed on all matters, but when he told me something, I knew it was the truth, and he knew he was getting the truth from me.

If current leadership does not have a working, trustful relationship with each other, I suggest they find a way to make it happen.
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2005, 12:36:06 pm »

Even back in the "old days", Dogmatix and I had trust.  We might not of agreed on all matters, but when he told me something, I knew it was the truth, and he knew he was getting the truth from me.

If current leadership does not have a working, trustful relationship with each other, I suggest they find a way to make it happen.

I think you are rememering "the good old days" with rose-colored glasses. 
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2005, 12:43:57 pm »
I remeber flames as well in the "Good old Days"  but I also remember the trust among the leadership Jeff speaks of, and more use of the RM forums for these issues, resolving items behind the scenes and not in public.

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2005, 12:53:20 pm »
I remeber flames as well in the "Good old Days"  but I also remember the trust among the leadership Jeff speaks of, and more use of the RM forums for these issues, resolving items behind the scenes and not in public.

Get off the nip!!  I rember many of the flame wars at the tail end of the "stock" time happening in public.

Hell, I STARTED some of them.  I know flames and this is MILD.

Dizzy is right, everyone is making way to big of a deal over nothing.
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2005, 01:03:28 pm »
DH,

I am well aware that there was major flaming and other wild issues back then.

The point was that if I had a question about something, I knew I would get the truth, period.

Trust = truth
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2005, 01:05:06 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.


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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2005, 01:10:44 pm »
DH,

I am well aware that there was major flaming and other wild issues back then.

The point was that if I had a question about something, I knew I would get the truth, period.

Trust = truth

I trusted Doggy to for the most part.  I trust Krueg as well even though we've butted heads in the past I have always respected him.

We may need new leadership on all sides.  

Jeff, you know the under-handed crap that was being planned by people I will not name for an un-nammed server that never happened.  
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2005, 01:12:39 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.



My point exactly!

I knew that comment about RMs becoming "RAs" (Rules Attorneys) on the other thread would have you worried about the competition..... ;)

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2005, 01:18:08 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.



My point exactly!

I knew that comment about RMs becoming "RAs" (Rules Attorneys) on the other thread would have you worried about the competition..... ;)

How about adding a rule "All rules-lawyers will be beaten to death with a shovel"?
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2005, 01:20:42 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.



My point exactly!

I knew that comment about RMs becoming "RAs" (Rules Attorneys) on the other thread would have you worried about the competition..... ;)

How about adding a rule "All rules-lawyers will be beaten to death with a shove"?

DAMMIT!!!!!! I WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER MID SERVER RULES CHANGE!!!! IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS NEW RULE WAIT UNTIL NEXT SERVER!!!!
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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2005, 01:28:45 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.




My point exactly!

I knew that comment about RMs becoming "RAs" (Rules Attorneys) on the other thread would have you worried about the competition..... ;)


How about adding a rule "All rules-lawyers will be beaten to death with a shove"?


How about having Likkerpig do the beatings as he already has his own shovels


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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2005, 02:45:10 pm »
Jeff, you know the under-handed crap that was being planned by people I will not name for an un-nammed server that never happened.  

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2005, 02:48:27 pm »
Jeff, you know the under-handed crap that was being planned by people I will not name for an un-nammed server that never happened. 

<brain explodes>

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2005, 02:54:28 pm »
Jeff, you know the under-handed crap that was being planned by people I will not name for an un-nammed server that never happened.  

<brain explodes>

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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2005, 02:14:58 pm »
Well there were always flames.  One thing is for certain though:  The RM forum is not being used as it used to be and as it should be.



My point exactly!

I knew that comment about RMs becoming "RAs" (Rules Attorneys) on the other thread would have you worried about the competition..... ;)

How about adding a rule "All rules-lawyers will be beaten to death with a shove"?

DAMMIT!!!!!! I WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER MID SERVER RULES CHANGE!!!! IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS NEW RULE WAIT UNTIL NEXT SERVER!!!!

 ;D  ;D  Now, that's funny!!!    ;D  ;D

That's Kroma for ya.   Always sticking one foot out to help the community, while firmly booting your arse out the door with the other.  He sure is a bag full of.................mixed signals.  :-*

I've decided I'm starting a petition to make Kroma SFC Universal Overlord.   Ya just never know what's which way he's swinging, but one thing is for sure.   You'll never be bored!!!!!


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Re: We will not permit the continued assault on Organia without punishment.
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2005, 03:28:55 pm »
Ya know.... if the ISC went thru the old neutral zone they established.... they could reclaim Organia much quicker.

But we all know that wouldn't serve the current Coalition-ISC treaty, since you would have to tear thru coalition claimed ISC space to do so.

So just continue picking on the Gorn. ::)
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