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battle star galactica the best sci fi ever.
« on: January 29, 2005, 05:25:44 am »
Ive seen all the episodes and let me tell you all this show has some of the best writing and acting I have ever seen in a series. The final episode is a real cliff hanger and will leave wanting more. It's to bad star trek will never have writers and actors like this series has. Thanks b&b for your worthless predictable story lines and sub-par casting decisions.



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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2005, 11:59:42 am »
If you like a half-baked remake of a series that scraps one of it's best characters to be politically correct, you'll probably be a Woody Allen fan as well.
   By no means the best series ever.


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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2005, 12:14:50 pm »
If you like a half-baked remake of a series that scraps one of it's best characters to be politically correct, you'll probably be a Woody Allen fan as well.
   By no means the best series ever.

Wouldn't say best ever, but it is great. I keep meaning to catch the new series on Sci-Fi but I always end up busy.  Going down to Best Buy to pick up the pilot series today I think...
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Re: battle star galactica the best sci fi ever.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2005, 12:45:56 pm »
Ive seen all the episodes and let me tell you all this show has some of the best writing and acting I have ever seen in a series. The final episode is a real cliff hanger and will leave wanting more. It's to bad star trek will never have writers and actors like this series has. Thanks b&b for your worthless predictable story lines and sub-par casting decisions.




BSG is ok, it's not great, it's not bad, it's different. The best series would have to go to B5 or Stargate.
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Re: battle star galactica the best sci fi ever.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2005, 01:32:17 pm »
If you like a half-baked remake of a series that scraps one of it's best characters to be politically correct, you'll probably be a Woody Allen fan as well.
   By no means the best series ever.


ROFL at the inane comments here.  It's obvious you haven't watched the series because Starbuck is ANYTHING except politically correct.  She'd probably deck you for even thinking such a thing.  One of the best things about the last episode is where she had to tell Adama that SHE was the reason his son, and her fiancee, Zack died in a training accident.  The look on her face, and his face, was absolutely priceless. 

No politically correct character would have had to admit the truth, and would have had the look on her face of wanting his approval, his forgiveness, and his love and then have him say "Get out of my cabin while you still can" with the clear implication that he would seriously maim, if not kill her if she didn't get out of his sight immediately.  Picard would have hugged her and forgiven her.  Adama tells her to get out before he kicks her ass for what she did. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2005, 01:34:39 pm »
I watched about thirty minutes of it.  No more.   I still remember the old series, and, up until they finally reached earth and went straight to the trash heap, enjoyed it.  I am by no means a big fan of remakes, Judge, as you realized.   If they wanted to do a remake, they should have left it more in line with the original. 
   


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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2005, 01:35:34 pm »
So basicly, becauase of one Actress , BSG is not the best SciFi series ever.

I have to agree with you Judge.  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2005, 01:37:28 pm »
More to it than just that, Stephen.  I prefer Star Trek.  Of course, I also think the original series was crap because of Kirk.   I didn't begin really getting into it, (still not to the level of some), until TNG.   I also liked Voyager, but not DS9.  So, I guess I am a picky SOB.



EDIT:  Also, of course, is that this is a matter of opinion.  Mine simply disagrees. 


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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2005, 01:54:53 pm »
So basicly, becauase of one Actress , BSG is not the best SciFi series ever.

I have to agree with you Judge.  ;D ;D ;D

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No, it's not because of the one character, but she is by leaps and bounds the strongest, angriest, and most provocative character on the show.  I'm gay and I'll take a scene with Starbuck, Boomer, or Number Six in it over most of the male eye candy on the show.  That's probably the biggest weakness of the show:  Only Adama and Baltar can stand toe to toe with the story lines for the women.  Even the President's storyline is heartbreaking and infuriating enough to outclipse Apollo or Tigh.

Wait, that's not exactly right either.  Tigh's got an episode coming up where we see why he's as messed up in the head as he is...and it's good.  He's also very loyal to Adama, and proves it over and over again through the series.  Apollo is by far the weakest character, something that is bugging me more and more.  I do hope that in the second season they ramp him up a few notches. He's got maybe one or two episodes where he remembers he's got cahones and when he does use them, he kicks cylon ass all over the screen.

Angel, they kept the most important aspects of the original premise intact.  The Cylons conducted a sneak attack on the Twelve Colonies and destroyed them utterly.  A rag-tag group of survivors are gathered under the protection of the only surviving Battlestar, commanded by Commander Adama, and they flee the Cylons while seeking the mystical lost Thirteenth Tribe that is said to have colonized a planet known as Earth.  Just about everything else is different, but the essential core of the story remains the same.

The original series was a product of its era.  To go back and remake it exactly as it was with updated graphics would not have worked in the 21st century.  A few old fanboys would have tuned in and gushed their load over the television screen, and then no one else would have watched (and yes I'd have been one of them).  They could have skipped over the opening acts of the story and started the series 20-40 years after the original series timeline with the Galactica still on the run, and it might have worked, but it would have been missing that huge opening act.

In the original series we saw a few cylon raiders flying over the 'peace' banner on Caprica and firing lasers.  In this one we saw nuclear bombs in the 50-kiloton range being detonated over military bases and cities.  (Note 50-kiloton devices would likely leave reinforced, concrete buildings still standing.  Many might even have glass in them still if they weren't facing the direction of the blasts.  Radiation would be hell, killing many people within a day or two, but much of the cities would be still there as long as they didn't take direct hits.  The blast zone of destruction for such devices would be about 10 miles unobstructed.  Less if there's obstructions in the way.)  It's so much more real, so much more obvious that they've gone from 12 BILLION people to less than 50,000.

The acting in this show is top-notch.  The visual effects are just as good.  The plotlines are quite involved and put their characters through hell.  This isn't a show where there's a lot of laughs and humor.  There's a general air of desperation and despair permeated throughout.  Remember, everything they knew except for this last Battlestar and some ships are gone.  They are being hunted to extermination by an enemy that doesn't sleep and doesn't stop, and they KNOW that.  

To make matters worse, even the people in the fleet cannot stop being human.  In the middle of this struggle for survival you have politicians jockeying for political power, media pundits criticizing every move by the leadership, and people demanding their 'rights' to have a voice in their 'government'.  Then we also have Helo on Caprica giving us HUGE insights into what the Cylons are really after in all this...

Oh, and Stephen, the Cylon religion isn't a reference to Christianity.  It's a reference to the al-quaeda form of Islam.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2005, 01:58:40 pm »
I have no Problem with Islam. 

Kirk I think we need to talk again on the phone. Outside of being worried about you and your Family, I enjoy talking with you.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2005, 02:07:28 pm »
I have no Problem with Islam. 

Kirk I think we need to talk again on the phone. Outside of being worried about you and your Family, I enjoy talking with you.

Stephen

PM me for my number If you want to talk.

Stephen, my friend, I didn't mean to imply that you have a problem with Islam. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2005, 02:14:10 pm »
You are correct. I'm sorry about all of this, I'm cold tired , worried about the wife, and With everything Your Going through at home, I really just want to talk to one of my Good friends.


I tell you, I think we both need To talk.  Too be honest, I think of you as a very good Friend, and I need to tell you something in Private. something thatis going on in my own Personal life, that Envolves one of my sons.

Please Kiirk, Give me a call, or let me know your Number.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2005, 02:47:49 pm »
Woops, sorry got distracted by getting ready to go pick up at Aunt carol and forgot to send you the pm.  It'll be there in just a second.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2005, 03:14:05 pm »
The best Sci fi is/was Babylon 5. but is it good? yes.

beats enterprise. IMHO
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2005, 04:51:24 pm »
BSG is as good as B5 Season Three...that's the best praise in the world.

it might even be better once you see the finale, Mentat (yes, i'm leaning towards better).
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2005, 06:00:37 pm »
BSG is as good as B5 Season Three...that's the best praise in the world.

it might even be better once you see the finale, Mentat (yes, i'm leaning towards better).

Better than B5? hmmm.. I guess I  see, im watching them without looking at spolier pages. its  better than way.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2005, 06:24:10 pm »
BSG is as good as B5 Season Three...that's the best praise in the world.

it might even be better once you see the finale, Mentat (yes, i'm leaning towards better).

Better than B5? hmmm.. I guess I  see, im watching them without looking at spolier pages. its  better than way.

Actually I watched the episodes themselves, not reading the spoiler pages.  The season ends in a way that I loved more than the scene from B5 Season Five where Londo accepts the Keeper to save his people. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2005, 02:15:11 am »
I watched about thirty minutes of it.  No more.   I still remember the old series, and, up until they finally reached earth and went straight to the trash heap, enjoyed it.  I am by no means a big fan of remakes, Judge, as you realized.   If they wanted to do a remake, they should have left it more in line with the original. 
   

Better talk to Glen A Larson then.

He is the producer of BOTH series.

And if you like TNG so much... I can't understand why you don't like TOS Star Trek.

Same plots for a lot of them...... Just more PC.....
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