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Harry....His bags UNpacked ...
« on: January 24, 2005, 07:24:13 pm »
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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2005, 07:25:34 pm »

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2005, 08:43:49 pm »
Ummm.

Who is Harry?

Who is Vic.

What is the Clan stuff?

What are all the alphabet soup acronyms.

What tha'  BLEEP?

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2005, 09:11:21 pm »
Don't know Vic but that is definitely Harry Lang, Paramount/Viacom pointman to anything electronic. SFC included.
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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2005, 09:41:42 pm »
Ummm.

Who is Harry?

What Strafer said...

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Who is Vic.

Below lawer on the food chain....

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What is the Clan stuff?

B.S.

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What are all the alphabet soup acronyms.

Anti-lawyer code...

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What tha'  BLEEP?


F&A ;)

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 10:59:01 am »
Sad, :(  I'd wondered why we didn't see Harry around anymore. At least it wasn't us that scared him off.

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 11:16:06 am »
Vic = Victor1st, left the SFC3 community with Watertiger spat on it and set it alight. Since that event the SFC3 community is starting to grow again, apparently we where dead and buried. Victor also left STGD in a huff and Tony took over after it was shut down - re-opened and know closed. Other sites have sprung up more than welcome to take up the challenge.

As for clan = BS it refers to a directory of clans, basically a yellow pages of SFC clans, hardly BS.

What gets me is this that Vic was dumb enough to bite the hand that feeds.

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2005, 12:14:19 pm »
I'm still lost . . .    How could some gamer have well . .  . any power over anything . . . at Paramount.


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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2005, 12:19:01 pm »
STCD  =   ?????????  Clans . . . Star Trek????   WHa???????


STGU =   Just how many Star Trek online games are tehere anyways??   ???   Wha????


Paramount =  Why would anyone that worked at parzamount give a damn??  Seriously!!


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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2005, 12:29:03 pm »
Vic = Victor1st, left the SFC3 community with Watertiger spat on it and set it alight. Since that event the SFC3 community is starting to grow again, apparently we where dead and buried. Victor also left STGD in a huff and Tony took over after it was shut down - re-opened and know closed. Other sites have sprung up more than welcome to take up the challenge.

heh...the condensed version...

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As for clan = BS it refers to a directory of clans, basically a yellow pages of SFC clans, hardly BS.

The BS refers to the activites surrounding many of these "clans"...the open warfare that often erupts with each other over petty differences or some percieved slight or insult.......and the wedges this type of "internet nationalism" creates within the community is more often than not...destructive to the community itself...driving off independant and casual gamers...the idea that often the acts of an individual somehow reflect upon the rest of the group and then said groups are painted with broad brushes....

Many of these groups put themselves before whatever game they may be playing at the moment....and often try and muscle or intimidate their way into prominence in the community...they often wont play with non fleet members or independants and even hurl insults to anyone who questions such actions...

We on the other hand see our selves mostly as "community" members and SFC players first...and fleet members second...

By the grace of god...our little community is pretty free from this juevenial behaviour...and many of those groups who once where among us...have left for the latest greatest game...what ever that may be...

Dont get me wrong...I'm all for "Fleets".....they can be great assets to the game community and many help with getting new people up to speed and game support......but the term "Clan" itself implies somekind of backward tribal organization...and often this "group think" leads to actions being taken based upon misconceptions,manipulation ,or outright lies.... and are later regretted by those who took them...

And just witnessing the several clan wars that where not only permitted....but actually encouraged by website admins is just a disgrace to ALL gamers...

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What gets me is this that Vic was dumb enough to bite the hand that feeds.

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 12:38:02 pm »
I'm still lost . . .    How could some gamer have well . .  . any power over anything . . . at Paramount.


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One gamer probably wouldnt...but an unbalanced site admin...who cant be shut up....has harrassed a Paramount employee, though his employment , into pulling away from voluntarilly interacting with ALL gamers...

All based on half truths, outright lies, libel,black mail and a personal vendetta by said site admin......

Harry is the guy who comes round every so often and shares what he can concerning Paramount and Trek games...this isnt part of his job...it's just something he did for us fans...




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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 12:39:42 pm »
Sound slike Harry need to not over react and just ignore one person/site.

Also, sound like somebody needs their arse sued. 


<picks up phone to call Paramount>


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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 12:43:21 pm »
Go J'inn, GO! :D lol

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 12:44:13 pm »
Sound slike Harry need to not over react and just ignore one person/site.

Heh...he pretty much did that...until now.....it might be effecting his employment...

And remember...interacting with us isnt part of his job....so if it becomes to big a pain (as it looks like)...he can just withdraw (as he has stated he is doing)..

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Also, sound like somebody needs their arse sued. 


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My thoughts exactly... ;)

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2005, 12:48:05 pm »
Let me state for the record...I'm not trying to ignite some action against anyone...but rather if you read this...and feel strongly about it...go post in the appreaciation thread... ;)

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2005, 12:54:34 pm »
Latest reply from a classy guy...:

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Originally Posted by EmeraldEdge
The question I have running through my head is, has any of this gotten to the "higher ups" (or at least anyone with influence over his position there) over at Harry's place, and if so, is there anything we can do to counteract the damage? Is there need for a letter writing campaign on Harry's behalf to anyone in particular, and if so, who and how do we contact those individuals?

Posted By Harry:
No it hasn't. I'm not the least bit worried about that, trust me (I've been with this company for 11 years now). My post and actions are really a result of frustration.

I'm keeping my options open as to what happens next in terms of how much I will participate in the forums again. Thanks for all the emails, PM's and notes in this thread. But again, let's not turn this in to a bash fest.

My offer to resolve whatever issues Vic has still stands.

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I dont know how he does it...

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2005, 01:20:03 pm »
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I dont know how he does it...

I'm sure he gets paid quite well for the heat in the kitchen.

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2005, 01:24:35 pm »
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I dont know how he does it...

I'm sure he gets paid quite well for the heat in the kitchen.

Jerry

Hmmm...did you miss the part where interacting with fans ISNT part of his Job?

So in fact..he doesnt get paid for it...nor is he even required to be in the kitchen...

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2005, 01:26:41 pm »
Well hopefully with Vic and Wastetiger gone this should be the end of all this BS from that site.

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Re: Harry....His bags packed by Victor...
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2005, 01:31:27 pm »
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I dont know how he does it...

I'm sure he gets paid quite well for the heat in the kitchen.

Jerry

Hmmm...did you miss the part where interacting with fans ISNT part of his Job?

So in fact..he doesnt get paid for it...nor is he even required to be in the kitchen...

 8)

Thanks for all the kind words guys.  No, I don't get paid for THIS kind of heat.

No need to worry about me though, as I said in the other thread, my post is really a result of frustration and nothing else in terms of my employment.  We'll see what happens.