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Offline KBF-Angel Slayer

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2005, 11:01:14 am »
I am one of the newbies.  I survived last night, and, to be honest, the missions are really tough, but not unbeatable.  Not trying to tick anyone off, but, when you are taking on the AI, this isn't like a PS2 game.  You go in trying to knock them silly, they are going to do the same  to you.
   Fighting with tactics, rather than just weapons, was what made the difference.  Of course, we have to figure out the tactics as we go along.
   PLEASE don't change the settings and make it easier.  Let us continue to get better this way, because if my fellow newbies and I are getting squirrelly over the AI, the Human Players are going to hand us our butt's on a plate, and that is NOT what I want.
   Better AI means we can do better against real live opponents.  And that is what really matters.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2005, 11:07:52 am »
I am one of the newbies.  I survived last night, and, to be honest, the missions are really tough, but not unbeatable.  Not trying to tick anyone off, but, when you are taking on the AI, this isn't like a PS2 game.  You go in trying to knock them silly, they are going to do the same  to you.
   Fighting with tactics, rather than just weapons, was what made the difference.  Of course, we have to figure out the tactics as we go along.
   PLEASE don't change the settings and make it easier.  Let us continue to get better this way, because if my fellow newbies and I are getting squirrelly over the AI, the Human Players are going to hand us our butt's on a plate, and that is NOT what I want.
   Better AI means we can do better against real live opponents.  And that is what really matters.

Oh I agree I am not saying adjust the difficulty level just clear the junk out of the shiplist so that we have decent ai helpers.
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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2005, 11:26:54 am »
I am one of the newbies.  I survived last night, and, to be honest, the missions are really tough, but not unbeatable.  Not trying to tick anyone off, but, when you are taking on the AI, this isn't like a PS2 game.  You go in trying to knock them silly, they are going to do the same  to you.
   Fighting with tactics, rather than just weapons, was what made the difference.  Of course, we have to figure out the tactics as we go along.
   PLEASE don't change the settings and make it easier.  Let us continue to get better this way, because if my fellow newbies and I are getting squirrelly over the AI, the Human Players are going to hand us our butt's on a plate, and that is NOT what I want.
   Better AI means we can do better against real live opponents.  And that is what really matters.

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2005, 11:31:49 am »
I am one of the newbies.  I survived last night, and, to be honest, the missions are really tough, but not unbeatable.  Not trying to tick anyone off, but, when you are taking on the AI, this isn't like a PS2 game.  You go in trying to knock them silly, they are going to do the same  to you.
   Fighting with tactics, rather than just weapons, was what made the difference.  Of course, we have to figure out the tactics as we go along.
   PLEASE don't change the settings and make it easier.  Let us continue to get better this way, because if my fellow newbies and I are getting squirrelly over the AI, the Human Players are going to hand us our butt's on a plate, and that is NOT what I want.
   Better AI means we can do better against real live opponents.  And that is what really matters.

Well said AngelSlayer!  ;)
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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2005, 11:33:07 am »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D

Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D
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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2005, 11:37:03 am »
I am avoiding the really hard ships.  If it has drones or fighters, I am not real fond of flying it yet.  I am more interested in flying a ship with phasers, disruptors and such.   More suitable for us cannonfodder type pilots.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2005, 11:41:35 am »
I am one of the newbies.  I survived last night, and, to be honest, the missions are really tough, but not unbeatable.  Not trying to tick anyone off, but, when you are taking on the AI, this isn't like a PS2 game.  You go in trying to knock them silly, they are going to do the same  to you.
   Fighting with tactics, rather than just weapons, was what made the difference.  Of course, we have to figure out the tactics as we go along.
   PLEASE don't change the settings and make it easier.  Let us continue to get better this way, because if my fellow newbies and I are getting squirrelly over the AI, the Human Players are going to hand us our butt's on a plate, and that is NOT what I want.
   Better AI means we can do better against real live opponents.  And that is what really matters.


OMG! I love this guy! Where were more people like you four years ago?

I have drawn everything from frigates to dreds in the CAY we were given. I also happen to know the missions well enough to choose the ones that will be easier, so that gives me a bit of an edge too. The missions are definitely not too hard for the ISC, but at this point in the server other races are struggling I'm sure.

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2005, 11:46:55 am »
Hey, Corbo, I'll take on an I-DN in an H-SAR, but not for a measly 300 PP. Make it around 5k and I'll think about it. ;)

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2005, 11:48:49 am »
It's like most things in life, Corbomite.  Ali, Tyson, Catfish Hunter, et al, didin't become the best at what they did by taking on only what they could beat with certainty.  They pushed themselves beyond, and challenged everything.  They never viewed a loss as the end of the world, or demanded easier competition, they simply worked harder to become able to beat it.
   Obviously, a computer game isn't life consuming, (at least to sane people.  Myself, I  am really getting to like this!), but the same principle applies.
   Push yourself or buy a spare set of teeth, because you are going to get them kicked down your throat with human intelligence.  Push yourselves or grab a binkie.  I am going to get my rear kicked, and I know it...but every time you kick my rear, I am going to get closer to kicking yours, so in the long run, you WILL lose.  At least once.  ;D


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2005, 11:54:57 am »
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I am going to get my rear kicked, and I know it...but every time you kick my rear, I am going to get closer to kicking yours, so in the long run, you WILL lose.  At least once.


Well, I don't know about all that, but I sure like your moxie kid!  :P ;)

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2005, 11:56:04 am »
Wow.  I have'nt been called a kid in decades!!  Thanks.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2005, 11:57:15 am »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D

Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D

Sure, why don't we eliminate the Hydrans while we are at it? ;)
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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2005, 11:58:10 am »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D


Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D

Sure, why don't we eliminate the Hydrans while we are at it? ;)


Sounds good to me ;D

just kidding


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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2005, 12:22:24 pm »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D

Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D

Sure, why don't we eliminate the Hydrans while we are at it? ;)


LOL, I just meant there are plenty of ships that have real firepower, not just a few Phs... 8)
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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2005, 12:24:09 pm »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D

Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D

Sure, why don't we eliminate the Hydrans while we are at it? ;)



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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2005, 01:06:19 pm »
Last night, when i was playing i drew a I-CCZ or Y and a I-CL. My AI help was a F-DD.

I am flying a H-CAV. i nearly had my butt handed to me if i had not set my ftrs to attack.

Having no offensive weaps I am nearly helpless against that monster.

Just my 0.02 pfg. ;D

Maybe try a ship that doesn't depend on fighters? Just a thought... ;D

Sure, why don't we eliminate the Hydrans while we are at it? ;)



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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2005, 01:24:57 pm »
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I am going to get my rear kicked, and I know it...but every time you kick my rear, I am going to get closer to kicking yours, so in the long run, you WILL lose.  At least once.


Well, I don't know about all that, but I sure like your moxie kid!  :P ;)

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2005, 03:01:10 pm »
I don't know what it is, but it keeps crashing constantly. Even when there is hardly any people on. It is becoming quite frustrating for all players alike. At peak times it is expected that its going to crash eventually, but during the night it should not be hapenning, and it is.

The gf settings do not seem to be set properly either, there are AI characters being generated attacking hexes, random news stories are switched an as well. At least one mission I know of (a patrol, no idea which one) is generating a nebula in an asteroid hex. The extra AI and news stories, I suspect, are filling the database with junk, making a database clean necessary far more often than normal. Also, it appears we do not have enough people with access to the server who know how to do this.

I have also received many complaints about the Dockyard Raid mission. This mission has a lot of defence platforms, and these platforms have been much more powerful than usual (more so than the mission was designed for, I suspect).This is causing players to avoid this mission like the plague.

Additionally, the mission difficulty generally seems too high. The 1v1 patrol almost never shows up, and often you are fighting 2 or 3 ships. This is fine for veteran players, but on this server we have a lot of inexperienced and relatively new people playing, some of whom have never played on a D2 campaign before. Many are being killed by the AI. Even I've found some missions to be particularly tough, and I've been playing this game for years. A large part of the problem appears to be caused by bad AI ship matching. (I get a freighter for an ally against an ISC CL and an ISC CA).

Just some constructive comments from your friendly neighbourhood Federation RM.

I will say only this: After SG4 I will run SFB-OP on the flatfile on ODIN on its gfs as is. I resent the implication of my incompetence here. Nothing pisses me off more. The SGO4 shiplist has basic YFA issues, missing classes... I can make it work, but not for this server. It took over two years to get the SFB-OP shiplist to work perfectly on a D2 server... see?

With regard to mission difficulty, we have pulled almost all the missions. Keep this strategy up and we'll be down to a one mission server.  The difficulty seems fine with the missions used on SFB-OP. Mission issues internal to the missions themselves I can do nothing about. The reason you are seeing more NW5fleet battles is that all the other patrols have been pulled due to one little bug or another.

So, in the interest of remaining amicable, I say to you again: get busy... ;)

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2005, 03:21:53 pm »
 Bonk, no one is blaming you. We said that last night and it still holds true now. Something that was added to the new SGO4 file is what is causing all these problems. I had no problems with the last beta download. I for one applaud your efforts to keep this sever online and trying to fix what you can,Sir.  <S>

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Re: There is something seriously wrong with the server
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2005, 03:24:01 pm »
Agreed I think you are doing great especially since you stepped in in the middle.  Just want to say thanks for the work you have done over the last 2 days.
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