Topic: Federation Mauler?

[Hexx]

Anyone know if the Federation ever made a CJ mauler?
And more importantly waht ship was it based off of?
And even more imprtantly what was it printed in?

[FPF-DieHard]

Anyone know if the Federation ever made a CJ mauler?
And more importantly waht ship was it based off of?
And even more imprtantly what was it printed in?

Yes

CA and NCL

R9

[FireSoul]

Anyone know if the Federation ever made a CJ mauler?
And more importantly waht ship was it based off of?
And even more imprtantly what was it printed in?

Yes

CA and NCL

R9

NO.. they were never built. None of the alliance races built maulers due to economic or ideological reasons. The SSDs in R9 for the alliance maulers are only unbuilt designs that never went further than simulators.

[Hexx]

What would be the ideological reason behind not building a mauler?
'Tis silly

[FPF-DieHard]

What would be the ideological reason behind not building a mauler?
'Tis silly

Photons fired en masse.  Who needs a mauler?

[FireSoul]

What would be the ideological reason behind not building a mauler?
'Tis silly

Photons fired en masse.  Who needs a mauler?

Correct..
.. Gorns: tough and plasmas. Who needs a mauler?
.. hydrans: hellbores that pick a weakest shield. Who needs a mauler?
.. kzin, long range drones.. who needs a mauler?
.. tholian: can't fire through webs. who needs a mauler?
..etc..

[Kroma BaSyl]

Anyone know if the Federation ever made a CJ mauler?
And more importantly waht ship was it based off of?
And even more imprtantly what was it printed in?

Yes

CA and NCL

R9

NO.. they were never built. None of the alliance races built maulers due to economic or ideological reasons. The SSDs in R9 for the alliance maulers are only unbuilt designs that never went further than simulators.

In one of the recent CLs the Gorn had a PlasmaB mauler based on super heavy plasma, that was a simulator only creation in the simulation that this computer version of the game is based on.

[Hexx]

Oh that's right
I forgot the massive benefits the "Alliance" races get in SFB.
(I mean really, have you actually read "The General War")
Obviously a Federation Propoganda piece.

Still, I've got Lyran , Rom and Klink conversions before and after.
Shouldn't be too difficult to figure out what to switch around.
(Im betting it's just hull-> batteries anyway)

[Hexx]

Anyone know if the Federation ever made a CJ mauler?
And more importantly waht ship was it based off of?
And even more imprtantly what was it printed in?

Yes

CA and NCL

R9

NO.. they were never built. None of the alliance races built maulers due to economic or ideological reasons. The SSDs in R9 for the alliance maulers are only unbuilt designs that never went further than simulators.

In one of the recent CLs the Gorn had a PlasmaB mauler based on super heavy plasma, that was a simulator only creation in the simulation that this computer version of the game is based on.

And again Kroma springs to my rescue.
See? You guys are all wrong
Kroma is the master for stupid SFB questions

[Julin Eurthyr]

In, IIRC, Cap. Log 16, there was a bunch of Alliance Mauler SSDs printed.  These finished off a set of conjectural maulers started in Starfleet Times and Nexus Magazine.

They were printed, as conjectural ships, for those free campaigns where the traditional Alliance races found themselves allied to, or stealing, Romulan Technology.  This way, there was an "official" authorized design, so nobody gets the bright idea of making a mauler with 2 phasers, the engines, and a ton of batteries.

The Alliance never really built one of these ships, as they never really bothered to learn the technology.  Remember, the Alliance is led by those "silly" Feds that skipped out on 30-person PFs in favor for 4 person Heavy Fighters.  If Drone Boats are the starship equivalent of a scatter-pack, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

[Hexx]

, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

You obviously don't know that I've been practicing with them
Just give me a STT+ and a target that doesn't shoot back and I'm all over it.

[Mace]

The tactical idea behind the Mauler ship was to manuever into a position to cripple a key enemy ship or station in a fleet battle. 

There would be no idealogical reason that the alliance would not build them. 

Massed photons and hellbores are nice but, Maulers were gauranteed their damage, and they(in SFB) could do exactly the amount of damage they needed to do.  Need to do 50 points of damage??  just discharge 25 batteries.  only need to drop that sheild??  no problem.

You get the idea.

Basically, it just seems to be one of those racial (or in this case, coalition) flavor things to give the different sides a different feel.

But, looking at the alliance and coalition maulers, I think the only ones that would still be flown would be the Rom/Lyran anyway. and maybe the Gorn the others are pretty useless in a one on one situation.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Wasn't the Federation Mauler called the USS Labrador Retriever?

<Looks at Die Hard, Snickers loudly>

[FireSoul]

In, IIRC, Cap. Log 16, there was a bunch of Alliance Mauler SSDs printed.  These finished off a set of conjectural maulers started in Starfleet Times and Nexus Magazine.

They were printed, as conjectural ships, for those free campaigns where the traditional Alliance races found themselves allied to, or stealing, Romulan Technology.  This way, there was an "official" authorized design, so nobody gets the bright idea of making a mauler with 2 phasers, the engines, and a ton of batteries.

The Alliance never really built one of these ships, as they never really bothered to learn the technology.  Remember, the Alliance is led by those "silly" Feds that skipped out on 30-person PFs in favor for 4 person Heavy Fighters.  If Drone Boats are the starship equivalent of a scatter-pack, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

True. However module R9 replaces these ships with updated "official" versions, also provided for the same reasons stated here.

[FireSoul]

, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

You obviously don't know that I've been practicing with them
Just give me a STT+ and a target that doesn't shoot back and I'm all over it.

wimp.

[FPF-DieHard]

In, IIRC, Cap. Log 16, there was a bunch of Alliance Mauler SSDs printed.  These finished off a set of conjectural If Drone Boats are the starship equivalent of a scatter-pack, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

Why you people think this?  the damage of a mauler on average is barely better than Photons overloaded.

I have R9, the Federation Maulers simply aren't worth it in an SFB or and SFC universe. 

[Hexx]

In, IIRC, Cap. Log 16, there was a bunch of Alliance Mauler SSDs printed.  These finished off a set of conjectural If Drone Boats are the starship equivalent of a scatter-pack, maulers are the starship example of the suicide shuttle.  One big boom and probably no starship left...

Why you people think this?  the damage of a mauler on average is barely better than Photons overloaded.

I have R9, the Federation Maulers simply aren't worth it in an SFB or and SFC universe. 

I don't know about that
up to range something or other (10?) the STT does 32 damage. At range 5 or less the STT does 64 points of damage

Now comparing these huge numbers to the photon we see that
up to range 8 the photons can do 64 points of damage,
man I hate photons, is there any reason the rest of the Galaxy didn't use them ?
Mmm OL photons and ESG's

Anyway Maulers look cooler.

[FA Frey XC]

Wasn't the Federation Mauler called the USS Labrador Retriever?

<Looks at Die Hard, Snickers loudly>

<snicker>

[FPF-DieHard]

Bastards, all of you . . .

[FireSoul]

I don't get it.