Topic: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....  (Read 8531 times)

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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2005, 04:15:45 am »
I wonder what Wicked Zombie thinks of this kitbash.   ;D
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2005, 03:19:38 pm »
Well, I can say I like it...can't believe I missed this one before. Great work to all of ya!! :)
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2005, 04:11:28 pm »
Thanks SandMan.  :-D
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2005, 05:41:31 pm »
Now this is what Merlin, the Sorcerer can do to a starship.  :-D  I was just playing around with various textures, and damn if this little experiment didn't blow me away. 
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2005, 05:49:06 pm »
Thoase are VERY cool

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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2005, 09:12:40 pm »
dont forget the ones i made for you show off those red ones god damn it :P

I will make some good renders with the bussards you made.  :-D  It'd be better if you made some killer lightmaps for them too.  :-D
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2005, 07:49:07 am »
WOW they came out great !!!!!!!! Glad I was able to help.
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2005, 09:00:04 pm »
WOW they came out great !!!!!!!! Glad I was able to help.
 ;D :thumbsup:
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Thanks MP.  You helped name the ships by doing the registries.  :-D  Keep in mind that the latest renders were just for tinkering around with textures, seeing what might have been if I had gone a different route.
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2005, 09:35:37 pm »
Well, I thought I'd show off F_W's bussards he made.  :-D  The purple would look killer for a S-31 retexture.  :-D  Now the last picture, I know, is really really overboard, but I couldn't resist doing it.  I always wanted to really know what it would look like. 
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2005, 02:32:43 am »
these ships are the best ones we've ever made buddy, I'm proud of them and i would also like to thank everyone at OutaLance shipyards especially Fallen_Warrior and Manitoba who helped Daihak and myself build the Mark VI Connie's. Thank you one and all

hey No problem if anyone i want to thank Models Please who is still having puter problems he made all the registires  while his pc was falling apart around him so thanx for giving us the chance to help out

You're welcome, it was my pleasure to help out,and finally start to coontribute back to a community that has given me so much enjoyment. And for those who didn't know,these were some of the very first registries I ever did. Long before GAFY tutored me on PSP 8. I did every letter and number individually LOL and them moved them into place. Thanks GAFY if ya hadn't showed me the light I'd still be doing them that way. LOL and F_W thought I was fast then.  ;)
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My bad i didnt know that Models Please Did the registry. So I would like to thank Models Please for the outstanding work designing the registries

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Mark 6 Shelved.....
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2005, 08:48:40 am »
After much thought on the subject, and after receiving alot of private notices about gripes people have had about this concept of a 25th Century refit of the Connie, I've decided to just stop the release of the ships.  Alot of people have complained about various aspects of the concept, ranging from the decision to use the Ent-A name to the overall design of the ship, to just the concept itself, of there being a Connie in the 25th century.  I know a few people actually liked how it turned out, but with all the people just giving complaints about it, I just began to feel that this concept was overkill.  I know it can be attempted, but not by me.  If some of you want a decent 25th Century connie, don't worry.  A little bird told me there's a few ideas out there.  I apologize to everyone that might have actually liked these ships, and I apologize to OutaLance, for all their generous work they helped put into this.  I'm sorry.
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2005, 09:04:58 am »
damn :( i still have mine tho... and im keeping it... and backing it up/// and its not 25th century its 24 is it not? dont stop the release, if they dont like it they dont download it simple as that!!! dont give in!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2005, 09:15:46 am »
The whole concept of the Mark 6 was an early 25th Century refit, and the last refit of the class, at least the last refit for the original ships.  I had wanted to give her a more updated look without going too damned crazy changing various aspects of the ship's design.  I thought about it like this.  One, the entire class underwent a total design change, but still stayed relatively the same in overall appearance.  Two, with the Excelsiors, and with the exception of the Enterprise-B, the entire Excelsior class remained unchanged in appearance except for resigned nacelles (which looked very much like the original) and the impulse crystals.  The entire class was upgraded many times, but mainly internally.  Her external appearance remained the name.  I felt that even though the Connie was refitted yet again for the 25th century, and be able to hold her own if anything happens, she still wouldn't be as advanced as the newer ships being commissioned at the time.  Alot of people disagreed with my opinions.  In some cases it felt like they were doing more than just disagreeing with my views.  The ships may be released one day.  We'll just have to wait and see. 
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2005, 04:40:42 pm »
I shoulda piped up sooner, but I didn't want to feel like a broken record. Your ships are YOUR ships, period. People will always have their own opinion, but I for one feel that it is the artist's choice, and the artist's choice alone, that should dictate any work of art. An din your case, I think its a little tragic that you have been nitpicked and browbeaten for trying to contribute and enrich for th erest of us. And for that I am sorry.

And for what it's worth. You stuff is WONDERFUL.

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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2005, 06:10:04 pm »
hell i love em! and i like how he made one with mk2 nacelles just for me :D there all nice and they dont look out of era... ive said it once and ill say it again..,

I LOVE THEM
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2005, 09:42:00 pm »
please release these badas_ ships the concept is great!
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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2005, 10:47:04 pm »
Daihak-I wouldn't put much stock in the naysayers. If they want the ships a different way, then let them make em themselves  :P
I used to put too much stock into peoples opinions on my work, after a while I just said screw it. In fact it helped me realize that I wasn't playing to my own strengths. I since moved on to non-Trek and found that I am better suited for the type of texturing and the designs. Actually its even more than that. I now am doing ships that truly inspire me. I am sorry but I think Start Trek design is trapped by its own popularity. New designs always have to show a tie to past Fed design, which is frankly limiting. You will also find that ST fans are the most demanding with details and also the least likely to accept anything that strays from traditional Feds.

Ask anyone here, I struggled big time with criticism. For one, I take myself and my models to serious at times. Kind people hinted that I  should just model for myself and thats the best advice anyone gave me. There is always going to be people that like your particular flavor of ships. Don't get caught up in trying to follow the most popular route


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Re: Mark 6 Constitution. Kitbash of WZ's various Connie models.....
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2005, 12:33:22 am »
Dude ya know I love the ships so PLEASE release them...........they will find a way into the games for sure,perhaps not the way you may have envisioned but that's what great about Star Trek it's all about individual imagination.
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Mark 6 Constitution storyline...
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2005, 04:05:54 am »
Read....
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2005, 05:26:07 pm »
Various people in the community have contacted me about the Mark 6 and my decision to keep her from being released.  I have even spoken to WZ himself, since this ship is bashed from his own creations, and also follows his line of Constitutions.  The reason why it's named the Mark 6 is because his Republic can be considered the 5th version of the class, or Mark 5. 

If some of you notice in my sig, not only do I choose to fly a Connie, but I have named her the Resurrection, and for good reason.  On some of the campaigns I have flown, I have taken many risks with my ship, as have many of you that have played before.  I've lost my ship on many occasions, but always seem to bounce back and keep fighting hard. 

The Mark 6, all 3 variants, will fly, and they will fly with pride.  They may not be the youngest ships at the party, but I can tell you, they will make heads turn.  May Heaven AND Hell help those that stand in the way of these ships.  They may be old, but I can tell you this.  They'll put up one hell of a fight. 

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