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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2005, 09:06:25 am »
All tournament ships are like that.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2005, 08:52:27 pm »
The F-COV (Commando Carrier?) and it's ilk have no fighters and can't buy any. Is that right?
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2005, 10:18:06 pm »
   What Commando Carriers for anyway as they are practicaly the same as GSC or GSC+?
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2005, 11:55:22 pm »
Quote from: Corbomite on March 31, 2005, 08:52:27 pm
The F-COV (Commando Carrier?) and it's ilk have no fighters and can't buy any. Is that right?

99% sure that is correct.  I don't have the SSD for the F-COV, but AFAIK they do not carry fighters.

Quote from: Age on March 31, 2005, 10:18:06 pm
What Commando Carriers for anyway as they are practicaly the same as GSC or GSC+?

Like the CVL, the COV was a wartime conversion of the GSC, used for planet assaults and the like.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #84 on: April 01, 2005, 08:11:02 am »
it "carries commandoes", get it?
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #85 on: April 01, 2005, 08:35:23 am »
Quote from: FireSoul on April 01, 2005, 08:11:02 am
it "carries commandoes", get it?

Yes I "get it", but the "V" designation is for "Vertical" and is reserved for carriers that carry aircraft. COM is used for Commando ships. Someone at ADB has a screw loose, but judging from the crap thay are producing as far as new ship ideas I'm not surprised.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #86 on: April 01, 2005, 09:39:07 am »
Quote from: Corbomite on April 01, 2005, 08:35:23 am
Quote from: FireSoul on April 01, 2005, 08:11:02 am
it "carries commandoes", get it?

Yes I "get it", but the "V" designation is for "Vertical" and is reserved for carriers that carry aircraft. COM is used for Commando ships. Someone at ADB has a screw loose, but judging from the crap thay are producing as far as new ship ideas I'm not surprised.

screw loose? without question. ;)
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2005, 12:31:05 am »
Hiya. Just wanted to make sure of this, as I've heard differing opinions.

The klingon C10k had it's drone control lowered to just 6, yet the ship still has 8 B racks, and a double shuttle launch rate?

I was told this ship was just another Taldren "inwention", but I know little of SFB cannon. It was my understanding this was a missile varient dreadnaught, hence the higher bpv compared to the related varients along with the increased drone control and racks. However the bpv appears to be unchanged, and with only 6 drone control the ship will never drone anything remotely of it's class to death as it's always been used in OP/EAW.

If this was an intentional change, then what about possibly reflecting it in the bpv, or removing the surplus racks to decrease the bpv? Anway I was just wondering, it's just a tad to small to fly regularly against x-heavies unlike the B10k, B11k, B10T, and MB10 anyway  ;D



And as always, thank you for the work you've put into this game, FireSoul.  :D
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2005, 08:49:38 am »
Quote from: Kougar on June 28, 2005, 12:31:05 am
Hiya. Just wanted to make sure of this, as I've heard differing opinions.

The klingon C10k had it's drone control lowered to just 6, yet the ship still has 8 B racks, and a double shuttle launch rate?

 . . .

And as always, thank you for the work you've put into this game, FireSoul.  :D

Believe it or not, this is correct.   The C10K is the SFB cannon Klingon Heavy DN and it does NOT have double drone control.  neither does the Federation DNH.

In the Fleet battles of SFB, this realy doesn't matter as other ships could take control of the drones once they were fired.

In SFC, it is a bit silly.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #89 on: July 06, 2005, 08:47:24 am »
Are the 'Year First Available' values all accurate, or were some modified for 'balance'?

I thought Klink K refits were '12', which is late era, but most now seem to be '6' which puts them into mid.

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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #90 on: July 06, 2005, 06:36:29 pm »
Quote from: Jakle on July 06, 2005, 08:47:24 am
Are the 'Year First Available' values all accurate, or were some modified for 'balance'?

I thought Klink K refits were '12', which is late era, but most now seem to be '6' which puts them into mid.

According to SFB, "Some ships received their K-refits as early as Y169 (2269, or '6') (prior to the dates on the Master Ship Chart), and by Y175 ('12') all command ships (C9, C8, D7C, D5C, F5C) had received it, as had perhaps half of the 'direct combat' ships (standard warships, carriers, etc).  Virtually all direct combat ships had it by Y180.  Some varients (minesweepers, scouts, drone ships, exploration ships, cargo transports, commando ships, PF tenders, PF's, and penal ships) never did receive it."

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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #91 on: July 06, 2005, 07:22:13 pm »
Ahh - so in other words, the values are accurate - to a degree.  There's just more to the story.

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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2005, 09:23:28 am »
Still fairly new to SFC....and I think OP+ is great, but....

The Romulan VUL+ early dreadnought shows a movement cost of 1.5, but has only 6 warp? At top speed it moves only 4.7!
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2005, 10:02:12 am »
It's supposed to be sublight....in SFB ,it wouldn't even move THAT fast (try speed 1)
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2005, 07:36:47 pm »
ah...ok, thanks. Last time I buy anything without looking at ALL the stats!
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #95 on: July 28, 2005, 06:06:18 pm »
I assume FS has taken a long and well desreved break form this, if he ever comes back though
I do believe the Lyran power and phaser refits are reversed .
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #96 on: September 24, 2005, 11:30:20 pm »
Quote from: Hexx on July 28, 2005, 06:06:18 pm
I assume FS has taken a long and well desreved break form this, if he ever comes back though
I do believe the Lyran power and phaser refits are reversed .

eh?
So this is where my thread went.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2006, 01:35:42 pm »
*taps the microphone*

Firesoul, you still around somewhere? Your website on klingon.stasis.ca seems to be... gone???  :huh:
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2006, 09:28:24 pm »
The power supply in the server that was running klingon.stasis.ca died. Frey and Firesoul were in the process of moving the site over to a Xenocorp.net server last I heard, though I'm not sure what the status of that move is at the moment.

If you are looking for links for the OP+4 mod we have copies here:
http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Mods/opplus_40_models.exe
http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Mods/opplus_40_no_models.exe

Though I miss all the other handy stuff on klingon.stasis.ca too, hopefully it will be back soon.
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Re: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2010, 11:43:11 pm »
Wow... digging up an old topic...

In a Single Player campaign I was noticing that the R-FQL has their PlasFs with an RA arc.  Is that correct?
The FQS PlasG is also RA.

Maybe a looney Romulan Freighter Designer?  Or maybe The Romulans liked designing their Q-ships so that they only fire while running away?
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