Topic: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread

[FPF-DieHard]

FireSoul. When will the F-CSR come out looking like a TMP ship as looks like a TOS version not that I am complaining it is good ship?I do see an NX on it does this mean it is in experimental trials only?What do the books say about this ship?Thanks

According to the SFB lore, there was just 1 F-CS ever built: the Prometheus. A prototype.
They wouldn't do the refit on just that one ship, imho.

But it would look REALY cool 

[FPF-DieHard]

F-BB has 4 fighters, should have 6.

None of the other BBs get the 2/3 reduction.


H-REG and R-CNH have a shuttle launch rate of 1.   I looked at the SSDs and I'm not sure if this is correct.

[Dizzy]

Dunno if its been brought up b4, but the R-CNH has 1 shuttle launch rate while the CON and CON+ have 2. Should it not be 2 as well?

[Toast]

DNLX ships when will we see them? 

[FireSoul]

DNLX ships when will we see them? 

Never...  .. at least I hope so.
These ships are clearly described as being 'impossible".

[FPF-DieHard]

DNLX ships when will we see them? 

Never...  .. at least I hope so.
These ships are clearly described as being 'impossible".

Hmm, sounds like a new flavor of Cheese for  "X-ship Hell" 

[Toast]

Well with the other xships i thought all of them would be a nice replacement for the taldren stock ones in adv era 

[SSCF-LeRoy]

DNLX ships when will we see them? 

Never...  .. at least I hope so.
These ships are clearly described as being 'impossible".

Hmm, sounds like a new flavor of Cheese for  "X-ship Hell" 

Also food for thought for the Klingo-Romulan War

BTW, DH, when ya gonna run X-ship Hell? I could probably use some of that stuff (or something like it) for KRW.

[FPF-DieHard]

DNLX ships when will we see them? 

Never...  .. at least I hope so.
These ships are clearly described as being 'impossible".

Hmm, sounds like a new flavor of Cheese for  "X-ship Hell" 

Also food for thought for the Klingo-Romulan War

BTW, DH, when ya gonna run X-ship Hell? I could probably use some of that stuff (or something like it) for KRW.

Not for a while, I'm booked until the summer.

[FireSoul]

You guys are driving me nuts. A Lyran needs a break from all this SFB research from time to time.

[Age]

FireSoul,How come some races have more X ships than others do eg. The Federation only has F-CX and F-GSX and the Klingons have K-DX,DXD and DXDm?I see this is common amongst most races or Empires.Those players on GSA really like those X-ships certain races need more.Thanks.

[FPF-DieHard]

Not really a correction, but more of a question . . .

how the hell does the I-CLX have a lower BPV than the G-HDX?

Designation: G-HDX
BPV: 215
Crew: 55
Marines: 18
Shield 1: 36
Shield 2 & 6: 30
Shield 3 & 5: 30
Shield 4: 30
Total Shields: 186

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 32
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 2
Total Engine Power: 36
Battery: 3

Transporters: 2
Tractors: 1
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

2x Plasma S
1x Plasma R
9x Phaser X

Designation: I-CLX
BPV: 209
Crew: 53
Marines: 18
Shield 1: 32
Shield 2 & 6: 32
Shield 3 & 5: 26
Shield 4: 26
Total Shields: 174

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 32
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 4
Total Engine Power: 36
Battery: 4

Transporters: 4
Tractors: 4
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

2x Plasma R
4x Plasma I
10x Phaser X

[Corbomite]

Not really a correction, but more of a question . . .

how the hell does the I-CLX have a lower BPV than the G-HDX?

The same way the I-BCV can be 263 when it loses systems compared to an I-CCZ (34 point difference) and a K-C7V costs 218 and loses nothing compared to a K-C7 (38 point difference), no reason at all except ADB says so.

[762_XC]

Carriers cost more because of deck crews. Their BPV is always overinflated.

[Corbomite]

Carriers cost more because of deck crews. Their BPV is always overinflated.

I wasn't talking about carriers vs BCH's, I was comparing what one race gets at one cost vs what another race gets at about the same cost. In some areas it seems some races spend a lot for not much ship and other races get a lot of ship for not much cost.

[FA Frey XC]

Not really a correction, but more of a question . . .

how the hell does the I-CLX have a lower BPV than the G-HDX?

Let's check out the differences here:


Designation: G-HDX
BPV: 215
Crew: 55 (2 more than ICLX)
Marines: 18
Shield 1: 36 (4 points MORE than ICLX)
Shield 2 & 6: 30 (2 lower than ICLX)
Shield 3 & 5: 30 (2 lower than ICLX)
Shield 4: 30 (2 MORE than ICLX)
Total Shields: 186 (VS 174 shielding ICLX)

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 32
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 2
Total Engine Power: 36
Battery: 3

Transporters: 2
Tractors: 1
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

2x Plasma S  ( I CLX doesn't have S torps, I torps instead)
1x Plasma R ( 1 less R torp than ICLX)
9x Phaser X ( 1 less phaser)

Designation: I-CLX
BPV: 209
Crew: 53
Marines: 18
Shield 1: 32
Shield 2 & 6: 32
Shield 3 & 5: 26
Shield 4: 26
Total Shields: 174

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 32
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 4 ( 2 more than Gorn)

Total Engine Power: 36 (SAME POWER as Gorn)
Battery: 4

Transporters: 4
Tractors: 4
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

2x Plasma R (no S's)
4x Plasma I
10x Phaser X

So there ya go.

[FPF-DieHard]

40 power versus 38 . . .

(Shipedit doesn't combine Warp and APR)

You're on crack if you think the HDX is a better ship.

[FPF-DieHard]

Carriers cost more because of deck crews. Their BPV is always overinflated.

I wasn't talking about carriers vs BCH's, I was comparing what one race gets at one cost vs what another race gets at about the same cost. In some areas it seems some races spend a lot for not much ship and other races get a lot of ship for not much cost.

Corbo's point is that sometimes the BPV simply don't make sense, his I-BCV was an example.

[Corbomite]

The Gorn Heavy Marine Destroyers from 2 to 4 are mis-labled as Escorts in the Strings file.

[Age]

  I was playing on GS and noticed that there was a ship being F-TCC bpv 999.Where would this have come from as don't usually see a ship with this bpv on OP+?