Topic: OP+ 4.0 Corrections Thread

[FireSoul]

It's nice.. but is it better? Only one way to find out.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

FS,

Can you check the model size of the Lyran DNW and IIRC, the Klink DNW... they seem awfully small.

Don't know if you noticed this one or not.

[FPF-DieHard]

The I-NCA and I-NCS only have 24 warp.  I'm at work and can't check my books, is this right?

[FireSoul]

FS,

Can you check the model size of the Lyran DNW and IIRC, the Klink DNW... they seem awfully small.

Don't know if you noticed this one or not.

Well, in my opinion yes these are right. I was careful not to create models much bigger than the LCW or the KCL (D5) since those are what these ships are created from. Do you prefer them to be enlarged?

[Hexx]

FS,

Can you check the model size of the Lyran DNW and IIRC, the Klink DNW... they seem awfully small.

Don't know if you noticed this one or not.

Well, in my opinion yes these are right. I was careful not to create models much bigger than the LCW or the KCL (D5) since those are what these ships are created from. Do you prefer them to be enlarged?

Actually I'd prefer the Lyran one to be improved..

[Klingon Fanatic]

Another model suggestion from the TMP archives I have....



Paperboy2000's retexture of the STOCK XMMER would make a great FECV or Fed Auxilliary CV.

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/dist/index.php/file,a8cc250d63d8af6ce30f7fb7e58408cd.rar


KF

[FireSoul]

Actually I'd prefer the Lyran one to be improved..

... 

[FireSoul]

Another model suggestion from the TMP archives I have....



Paperboy2000's retexture of the STOCK XMMER would make a great FECV or Fed Auxilliary CV.

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/dist/index.php/file,a8cc250d63d8af6ce30f7fb7e58408cd.rar

KF

I disagree. That looks more like a Monitor than anything else. A Fed-coloured monitor, sure.. but a monitor nonetheless.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

FS,

Can you check the model size of the Lyran DNW and IIRC, the Klink DNW... they seem awfully small.

Don't know if you noticed this one or not.

Well, in my opinion yes these are right. I was careful not to create models much bigger than the LCW or the KCL (D5) since those are what these ships are created from. Do you prefer them to be enlarged?

I'd prefer they were as they are supposed to be.

I just asked since I did not know.

If they are supposed to appear that small, that is fine... I just need to pay attention and not think it is a regular ship.

[FPF-DieHard]

The I-NCA and I-NCS only have 24 warp.  I'm at work and can't check my books, is this right?

Oh my, this is right!   

[FireSoul]

The I-NCA and I-NCS only have 24 warp.  I'm at work and can't check my books, is this right?

Yes. This is right. The idea here is that once the Andromedan invasion took place, many of the ISC fleets out-and-about the galaxy were found stranded behind the lines, but in control of some limited shipyards. They decided it was easier to hold their ground than to try to make it home, so they design a quick upgrade with their limited ressources for their CLs.

.. in effect, they add a pod that doesn't have warp, but much APR, as well as a good number of weapons. The ship counts as a NCA but really can only go speed 25 max. HOWEVER, they have a decent amount of firepower.

[FireSoul]

FS,

Can you check the model size of the Lyran DNW and IIRC, the Klink DNW... they seem awfully small.

Don't know if you noticed this one or not.

Well, in my opinion yes these are right. I was careful not to create models much bigger than the LCW or the KCL (D5) since those are what these ships are created from. Do you prefer them to be enlarged?

I'd prefer they were as they are supposed to be.

I just asked since I did not know.

If they are supposed to appear that small, that is fine... I just need to pay attention and not think it is a regular ship.

*nod* .. they are in effect War Dreadnoughts, and thus can be misleading in their abilities.

[Corbomite]

The ISC DW is using the Frigate UI and the DD model (no models).

And why use the X Ship UI for the DNW and DNM when the BB UI will work fine?

For the DNW just set it up like the DNT with 2 PPD's in front and with the Plas S in the BB's rear PPD slots, the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots, FAL and FAR PH-1's in the BB's 2 FH slots, FH PH-1's in the BB's 360 slot, LS and RS PH-3's in the BB's FAL and FAR PH-1 slots and LLR and RRR PH-3's in the BB's LS and RS PH-3 slots.


The DNM is even easier - just put the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots and add one PH-1 to the 360 mount. Now I know what you are going to say, but is it reallly worth dumping an entire UI and messing up TacIntel for 2 measly 360 PH-3's that combat-wise are marginally (at best) better than placing them all on the LS/RS mounts?

[FireSoul]

The ISC DW is using the Frigate UI and the DD model (no models).

That's fine.

And why use the X Ship UI for the DNW and DNM when the BB UI will work fine?

For the DNW just set it up like the DNT with 2 PPD's in front and with the Plas S in the BB's rear PPD slots, the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots, FAL and FAR PH-1's in the BB's 2 FH slots, FH PH-1's in the BB's 360 slot, LS and RS PH-3's in the BB's FAL and FAR PH-1 slots and LLR and RRR PH-3's in the BB's LS and RS PH-3 slots.

The DNM is even easier - just put the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots and add one PH-1 to the 360 mount. Now I know what you are going to say, but is it reallly worth dumping an entire UI and messing up TacIntel for 2 measly 360 PH-3's that combat-wise are marginally (at best) better than placing them all on the LS/RS mounts?

I'll take these UI changes into consideration, but for the amount of work they require, what's the point? The ship is just as accurate.

[Corbomite]

The ISC DW is using the Frigate UI and the DD model (no models).

That's fine.

And why use the X Ship UI for the DNW and DNM when the BB UI will work fine?

For the DNW just set it up like the DNT with 2 PPD's in front and with the Plas S in the BB's rear PPD slots, the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots, FAL and FAR PH-1's in the BB's 2 FH slots, FH PH-1's in the BB's 360 slot, LS and RS PH-3's in the BB's FAL and FAR PH-1 slots and LLR and RRR PH-3's in the BB's LS and RS PH-3 slots.

The DNM is even easier - just put the Plas D in the BB's Plas S slots and add one PH-1 to the 360 mount. Now I know what you are going to say, but is it really worth dumping an entire UI and messing up TacIntel for 2 measly 360 PH-3's that combat-wise are marginally (at best) better than placing them all on the LS/RS mounts?

I'll take these UI changes into consideration, but for the amount of work they require, what's the point? The ship is just as accurate.

Yes, but they are a bit of an ergonomic nightmare.

[FPF-DieHard]

Z-BCXm  has too many drone racks.

4x Disruptor 4
1x Missle Rack A
4x Missle Rack B
2x Missle Rack C
1x Drone M

[Bonk]

Working on my OoB scripts... when creating the D2 sql db ship records for every ship in the list in my OoB db initialisation script, I was missing six ships besides the three stars I omitted. I took a look in the shiplist for the reason and I noticed that the following ships are listed as "OrionWyldefire" instead of "OrionWyldeFire"":

W-PT1
W-PT1R
W-PT2
W-PT2R
W-PT3
W-PT4

.. I'll just leave them out of my server db for now...

Otherwise the list looks good for this task (from a file structure point of view).

[FireSoul]

Working on my OoB scripts... when creating the D2 sql db ship records for every ship in the list in my OoB db initialisation script, I was missing six ships besides the three stars I omitted. I took a look in the shiplist for the reason and I noticed that the following ships are listed as "OrionWyldefire" instead of "OrionWyldeFire"":

W-PT1
W-PT1R
W-PT2
W-PT2R
W-PT3
W-PT4

.. I'll just leave them out of my server db for now...

Otherwise the list looks good for this task (from a file structure point of view).

Yuck. Thanks. Touchy game, eh?
However, I confirm that there are no other entries like that.

[Age]

FireSoul. When will the F-CSR come out looking like a TMP ship as looks like a TOS version not that I am complaining it is good ship?I do see an NX on it does this mean it is in experimental trials only?What do the books say about this ship?Thanks

[FireSoul]

FireSoul. When will the F-CSR come out looking like a TMP ship as looks like a TOS version not that I am complaining it is good ship?I do see an NX on it does this mean it is in experimental trials only?What do the books say about this ship?Thanks

According to the SFB lore, there was just 1 F-CS ever built: the Prometheus. A prototype.
They wouldn't do the refit on just that one ship, imho.