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Offline GDA-Kel

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Terrain Distribution & More
« on: December 23, 2004, 08:11:03 am »
Regarding terrain, I don't really care what you guys fly in, as long as it's agreed to by both fleets prior to match start.  So feel free to negotiate different terrain this cycle of you want more variety.   

The breakdown for this cycle is as follows:

30 Games possible

12 Open (40%)
8 Planets (27%)
8 Asteroids (27%)
2 Black Hole  (6%)

All map size is medium. 

What would you like to see for next cycle?  Total games is dependent on number of fleets, so give me a percentage for each terrain type.   

Also, what does everyone think about adding a starbase assault/defense game to each divisional opponent?  For example, GDA flies against FPF twice (in the same division), so in one of the match games GDA owns the base while FPF attacks.  In the other match game FPF would defend.  Possibly make these base assaults/defenses the third game of the match.  Inter-division matches would not contain base assaults, as each opponent is only played once.  Obviously, tactics and ship slections would require greater thought. 

I realize some races have an easier time with base/planet assaults than others.  Would the tech difference between races be so great as to unbalance these games?         
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2004, 05:05:38 pm »


What would you like to see for next cycle? 

Bigger maps   ;D

And yes, we are 90% likely flying a plasma race next cycle.
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2004, 05:36:21 pm »


Also, what does everyone think about adding a starbase assault/defense game to each divisional opponent? 

I don't like the idea of starbases in a league match it would give one side to much firepower unless your going to make the starbase part of the total BPV.
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2004, 11:57:49 pm »



What would you like to see for next cycle?

Less TBPV.....
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2004, 09:15:13 am »
You mean lower the ceiling or the low end?

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2004, 10:13:32 am »
You mean lower the ceiling or the low end?

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Lower the ceiling...

Out of 30 possible battles, only five battles are below 400.  One below 300.

Sixteen battles are 500+ TBPV with seven of them over 600.

Of course, that leaves us with 8 battles between 400 & 500 TBPV.

I'd like to see less 500+ TBPV battles.  IMO, too many battles sporting 2 heavy cruisers and a dread.
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2004, 11:21:50 am »


What would you like to see for next cycle? 

Bigger maps   ;D

Smaller maps.

What do you get when you split the difference?

Medium

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2004, 11:41:23 am »
You get a map which is a lot larger than SFB was balanced for.

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2004, 11:47:00 am »
You get a map which is a lot larger than SFB was balanced for.

Double internals screws BPV balance worse than map size, but that's a topic for the Source code thread.
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2004, 01:59:01 pm »
Double internals is not easily fixable. Map size is.

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2004, 07:16:34 pm »


What would you like to see for next cycle? 

Bigger maps   ;D



are you serious or is that a joke?


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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2004, 08:06:59 pm »


What would you like to see for next cycle? 

Bigger maps   ;D



are you serious or is that a joke?



I am serious but I know it will never happen.   just the type of game I prefer to play takes place on a larger map.   
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2004, 08:10:15 pm »
Double internals is not easily fixable. Map size is.

The two are not mutually exclusive.   
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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2004, 09:48:49 am »
No they're not, but we don't need to wait for one to implement the other.

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2004, 12:39:38 pm »
Why dont you set up a Survivor style game that uses scenarios and complex ship setups as challenges. Tests teamwork game / ship knowledge etc.

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2004, 07:42:35 pm »
You get a map which is a lot larger than SFB was balanced for.


SFC is NOT SFB



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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2004, 08:03:52 pm »
You get a map which is a lot larger than SFB was balanced for.


SFC is NOT SFB



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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2004, 12:09:36 am »
You get a map which is a lot larger than SFB was balanced for.


SFC is NOT SFB




Like we don't all know that. Care to explain exactly what about SFC balances it on a larger map, where close-in races have about 3-4 times as far to go to chase someone down?

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Re: Terrain Distribution & More
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2004, 02:21:53 pm »


Like we don't all know that. Care to explain exactly what about SFC balances it on a larger map, where close-in races have about 3-4 times as far to go to chase someone down?

It takes twice the rear-fired internals to slow a chasing ship down in SFC. 

Besides in SFB, most fleet actions took place on a floating map.  Are we not attempting to replicate SFB fleet battles?   Is that not the point of PBR?
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