Topic: A Klingon Khristmas

[ModelsPlease]

This has been a refreshing thread on an old problem. Obviously there's no denying WZ in his usual undead way ahs smoked the model. But based on what everyone agrees about what makes the B10 the B10 I put a challange to the man I know could possibly make it happen....Azel all things being what they are with this ship could you redesign it,keeping all the attributes needed to make it a B10? SO that it's short comings are no longer an issue?
-MP

So You want me to make a TMP Klingon B10 If I where to totally redesign it but keep the major parts that make it a B10...
Such as:
-400 meters plus length
-4 nacelles(2 for the detachment, and 2 for the hull)
-compound bridge( I think I would lean towards 2 bridges...1 on the hull the other on its normal place)
-D-7 esq design philosophy
-and just plain mean

Yes sir ,that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
-MP

[Grim Reaper]

And i'm still hoping to get that accuser (which btw had a very long and troublous past in semi - canon also) you promised me Azel...
I never got more than a top view.

I don't know if you still want to create it / already have created but i'm still hoping...

[Grim Reaper]

And off course i forget to say great work to my fellow undead.

I really dig your work and textures. Though i prefer a darker green texture usually your textures rule imho.
However, the design itself doesn't appeal to me. I never liked those mini warp drives. Doesn't make the
design crap and certainly not the model. It just not my taste.

And another small q to Azel sneaked in:
That TNG K'T'Inga you designed... Has she been made? If not are there plans to make her?

[Azel]

And off course i forget to say great work to my fellow undead.

I really dig your work and textures. Though i prefer a darker green texture usually your textures rule imho.
However, the design itself doesn't appeal to me. I never liked those mini warp drives. Doesn't make the
design crap and certainly not the model. It just not my taste.

And another small q to Azel sneaked in:
That TNG K'T'Inga you designed... Has she been made? If not are there plans to make her?

Not to my knowledge...and no-one has tackled her as of yet

[S33K100]

And off course i forget to say great work to my fellow undead.

I really dig your work and textures. Though i prefer a darker green texture usually your textures rule imho.
However, the design itself doesn't appeal to me. I never liked those mini warp drives. Doesn't make the
design crap and certainly not the model. It just not my taste.

And another small q to Azel sneaked in:
That TNG K'T'Inga you designed... Has she been made? If not are there plans to make her?

The little nacelles are actually full sized K'T'inga nacelles, it's actually the rear nacelles on the B10 that are scaled up, but I agree on a battleship they look really dinky.

[QobnuH]

This is by far the best TMP battleship I have seen.A much more logical progression from D7 to C7 lineage and most certainly a more pleasing to the eye than those butt-ugly stock ones. Wz improved on the stock styles but they still  just never looked right to me. One thing on this one.... lose the forward D7 nacelles or at least  move them back off the neck and this thing will be awesome. I don't think Klingons would make a ship that separates,,,offends my sense of honor.

What's up with the link to DRS????  ?
?  ??????

[Grim Reaper]

What's up with the link to DRS????  ?
?  ??????

all say hail to nightsoft servers.
I get a q if i want to download a file

[Rod ONeal]

Wicked Zombie,
Any chance of getting a "Romulanized" version of this, please?

[S33K100]

This is by far the best TMP battleship I have seen.A much more logical progression from D7 to C7 lineage and most certainly a more pleasing to the eye than those butt-ugly stock ones. Wz improved on the stock styles but they still  just never looked right to me. One thing on this one.... lose the forward D7 nacelles or at least  move them back off the neck and this thing will be awesome. I don't think Klingons would make a ship that separates,,,offends my sense of honor.

What's up with the link to DRS????  ?
?  ??????

This is an SFB ship, SFB Klingons are TOS Klingons, and TOS Klingons were completely without honour, they made all that honour crap up with TNG, infact they nicked it from a novel about the Romulans who were the really honourable TOS enemy.

[Chris Johnson]

I actually like the way ST: Next Gen described Klingons and Romulans... They were headed on that way after TOS anyhow once they had the bigger budgets in the movies, were they not?

[S33K100]

Not really, would you describe Kruge as an honourable Klingon? It was only in STVI that they were honourable and that was made after TNG anyway so it doesn't count. And the Romulans didn't appear in the movies until STVI either. Both races were reversed by the early episodes of TNG. Really I preffered it the old way round, Mark Lenard (?) was brilliant as the Romulan commander in Balance of Terror.

[USS Mariner]

Not really, would you describe Kruge as an honourable Klingon? It was only in STVI that they were honourable and that was made after TNG anyway so it doesn't count. And the Romulans didn't appear in the movies until STVI either. Both races were reversed by the early episodes of TNG. Really I preffered it the old way round, Mark Lenard (?) was brilliant as the Romulan commander in Balance of Terror.

And your saying that Lursa, B'Tor, and the rest of the Duras family are "honourable?" Bullsh*t. What about those "Unification" Romulans, arne't they "honourable" for trying to find peace with their Vulcan brethren?

I really wish people would open their eyes and realize that any culture (on Earth or anyother) is NOT totally one or the other. It's a mix. There were scumbags in the TOS era (specifically seen in ENT but I'll get ganged on by rabid TOS'ers for that one ,) yes, but there were also guys like Kahless and Kor, etc.

Quit using steryotypes dammit. I mean it's not as if they're all clones (though that could change for the Klingons when "Affliction" rolls around )

[S33K100]

In writing terms in Star Trek, yes they are all clones, aside from that one instance of about a dozen Romulans in Unification (they're not really honourable, just not anti-Federation) can you think of one canon instance of TNG or later Romulans acting honourably?

[Rogue]

This is a public service anouncement from the dead zone.

Nightsoft is up.

How long it will stay up is anyones guess.

I just downloaded Wicked Zombie's B10 and perhaps you might too.

And it was a merry Christmas after all.

[MajorRacal]

Perhaps you could could consider the TNG Roms in Face of the Enemy... or pehaps the duped Rom in The Defector - some very honorable intentions lay behind a lot of what was going on there.

[Klingon Fanatic]

This is a public service anouncement from the dead zone.

Nightsoft is up.

How long it will stay up is anyones guess.

I just downloaded Wicked Zombie's B10 and perhaps you might too.

And it was a merry Christmas after all.

I've been stuck at the first page of DRS for over ten minutes and STILL haven't been able to d/l her yet... I don't usually have a problem d/l anything from DRS either.

KF

[E_Look]

Hey, it works now (2:30 AM Christmas morning EST)!

If not, PM me and maybe I can send it to you.

[Klingon Fanatic]

As of 8:18AM 12/26/04 DRS is up!

I finally got the Bloodstalker.

KF