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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #100 on: December 09, 2004, 10:00:45 pm »
Most of us have been playing the game for years. Is it fast approaching the old saying that 'if you dont have it you never will?'

Guess your SOL then!!  ;D :rofl:

I dunno. I learned something about PLaGs in PLaS launchers in time for GW4, and passed on that knowledge. I'm still learning.


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2004, 05:37:46 am »
Seem to have drifted away from the drift away lol. No comments on my chart that shows only the Lyrans needing to use power (on top of phasers) for drone/fighter defence, in relation to a long delay on the power pack implementation?

I do not think anyone disputes this, at least not while sober.  ;D

My point is the Lyrans being a "chump" race because ot the FYA for the powerpack being pushed back is not true.  Many good ships, CF, CCH, etc, are not affected by this.

Heh, didn't you admit you suck at Lyran a few posts ago?

It's fairly commonly known that the preferred ships are the trimarans, because of better arcs on disruptors etc. The ones you list are catamarans, which may "look" good, , but in practice ...
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2004, 11:18:17 am »
Mog is absolutely right. The disruptors on the centre hull usually have a FX firing arc, while the outboard disruptors are only FA. Its a common tactic to turn off the outboard disruptors for extra power and speed and sabre dance with the centre ones. The L-CWLP is a classic example.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #103 on: December 10, 2004, 06:12:05 pm »
For whatever MHO is worth, 77 is probably too late for that for that ship but 70 is very early to see a CW with that much power. If people are hung up on trying to get D2 perfectly balanced in every year, 73 (the year the Baron comes out) might be a good compromise year.

Just a humble suggestion.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #104 on: December 10, 2004, 08:27:16 pm »
762, you do realise that the D5C (out in 68) has 33 power, the I-CL (out in the year dot) has 32, to name but 2? The CWLP has 34. Huge advantage there, not!

Talking of the H-BAR, 34 power and 6 fighters  ::)

This isn't an attempt at blackmail (more a statement of intent), but if this proposed change goes through, it will be the last nail in the coffin for me playing SFC.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #105 on: December 10, 2004, 08:46:32 pm »
I realize that the CWLP reigns supreme in 2270-2272 in the war cruiser category, not that it really matters since there are bigger classes of ships to counter it. The D5C is far inferior, the ISC have never been balanced with anyone, and the BAR (WITH the fighters) is about equal when it comes out in 73.

As far as making the change, as DH pointed out, any server admin can edit YFA's as they see fit.

You don't bear this cross alone Moggy. In Firesoul's defense, OP+ has always been more about being accurate to SFB than being a panacea of D2 balance.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2004, 09:01:24 pm »
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, what does FS have in 3.4 for the Lyr P refits FYA? Are they any different from the past servers?

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2004, 09:09:41 pm »
...Just finished reviewing refit dates based on official data that I now have. Klingons will be happy (K refits are as soon as 169!) Lyrans will not. (Powerpack refits aren't UNTIL 177.)

.. in fact, to give you an idea.. the L-CWLP was *7* years too early, .. no wonder it's such cheese. Meanwhile, the C8K has been moved back by 6 years, to where it's supposed to be.

Umm, Firesoul, what "official data" are you refering to?  I'm looking at Module C1, and it says the powerpack refit was standard from Y168 (2268/+5)...

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #108 on: December 10, 2004, 09:16:53 pm »
...Just finished reviewing refit dates based on official data that I now have. Klingons will be happy (K refits are as soon as 169!) Lyrans will not. (Powerpack refits aren't UNTIL 177.)

.. in fact, to give you an idea.. the L-CWLP was *7* years too early, .. no wonder it's such cheese. Meanwhile, the C8K has been moved back by 6 years, to where it's supposed to be.

Umm, Firesoul, what "official data" are you refering to?  I'm looking at Module C1, and it says the powerpack refit was standard from Y168 (2268/+5)...

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Standard: DN, SCS, BCH, BC, CW, CWL, CWS, CWE, CWA, STJ, DW, DWL, DWS
Common: CVL, PFW, DWE, DWA
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Hm. Strange. Ok. I was going to double check anyways.


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #109 on: December 10, 2004, 10:43:48 pm »
Cool, a flame fest over nothing.  ;D

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #110 on: December 10, 2004, 11:18:55 pm »
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2004, 09:32:09 am »
*sigh*.  :P


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #112 on: December 11, 2004, 11:06:58 am »
Don't sweat it, FS.  After two + years of hard work, adding gazillions of ships to the shiplist, the model work, hours upon hours of research...in short, being one of the reasons this game we all love so much is still around...I think the occasional boo-boo is inevitable, and quite forgivable.  As they say, no big whoop.  Just remember, OP+ is now the standard for SFC, I think that says it all.

Say, I was wondering...your Lyran persona, what county/clan do you hail from?  I've always found the Lyran racial background fascinating. And, have you read Heath's "TGP Forager" in the Fan Fiction forum?
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2004, 05:09:00 am »
<looks at stats for Lyran CL>
<checks Grades in such things As "Running Away" "Getting Killed"

Sorry Laflin.. nothing those ships can teach me..

And when are you coming back to show us how to kill a DNH using nothing but an FF
and a plastic fork?

(no seriously, returning anytime soon?)

ETA sometime mid-March 2005 (crosses fingers)  ;D  I have lots and lots of rust to knock off the old hull

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2004, 06:47:47 am »
Don't sweat it, FS.  After two + years of hard work, adding gazillions of ships to the shiplist, the model work, hours upon hours of research...in short, being one of the reasons this game we all love so much is still around...I think the occasional boo-boo is inevitable, and quite forgivable.  As they say, no big whoop.  Just remember, OP+ is now the standard for SFC, I think that says it all.

Yeah, And to think I want to look at Mirak refits next.. ohh what a can of worms!  :'(

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Say, I was wondering...your Lyran persona, what county/clan do you hail from?  I've always found the Lyran racial background fascinating. And, have you read Heath's "TGP Forager" in the Fan Fiction forum?

I haven't really thought about a persona or any roleplay, and no I haven't followed any Fan Fiction. Lyran was the first SFB race I understood and mastered, long before any SFC matches or anything. I just wanted to continue with that..


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #115 on: December 12, 2004, 08:07:40 am »
2 best fed pilots would have to be

Nail and Warsears

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #116 on: December 12, 2004, 09:46:12 am »
2 best fed pilots would have to be

Nail and Warsears

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I'll second that motion   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #117 on: December 12, 2004, 06:48:28 pm »
BAstard Trajan  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #118 on: December 12, 2004, 08:32:34 pm »
2 best fed pilots would have to be
Nail and Warsears
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LOL ... great post bro.   :notworthy:

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #119 on: December 12, 2004, 09:17:29 pm »
2 best fed pilots would have to be

Nail and Warsears

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