Topic: Just DLed the 3.4 shiplist with models...

[madelf]

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WOW!  Have I been missing out!  Can't wait for the next campaign so I can see more of these babies!

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

 

[WarSears]

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WOW!  Have I been missing out!  Can't wait for the next campaign so I can see more of these babies!

Dose this mean you have DSL now. If so WarSears dose the happy dance.

[FireSoul]

What's your connection now? Did you download with modem?

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

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WOW!  Have I been missing out!  Can't wait for the next campaign so I can see more of these babies!

Dose this mean you have DSL now. If so WarSears dose the happy dance.

He does Sears was playing on GSA with him a few days back, voice coms and everything without a hitch, Chuut is very happy as well.

[madelf]

What's your connection now? Did you download with modem?

Yeah Firesoul, I'm now DSeLf!

[Pestalence_XC]

If you think that pack is good.. the OP Enhancement Package contains OP + v3.4 and a lot of other stuff.. as such, I would do a clean install of OP, install only the OP Enhancement.. which already contains the v2552 patch and OP + v3.4, and go from there.. if you follow the instructions in the thread I posted of the Enhancement pack.. it should be worth it for you...

Plus you would then be set up for any server in the way of Mission scripts.. all you would need is the NW config scripts and the shiplist /ftrlist and that is about it unless they are using custom models.. but anyhow, OP Enhancement should have you 90% ready for any server plus it contains Strats Mod Chooser which will allow you to preserve the game in different states so you can easily swap configurations from Original to OP + to the Server mod, to Chris Jones UAW mod and so forth...  without having to reinstall OP .. it is simple and easy now..

Hope that this helps...

[Dizzy]

Ya, what Pesty said. Easy as 1,2,3... Er there are really on 2 steps...

[FireSoul]

If you think that pack is good.. the OP Enhancement Package contains OP + v3.4 and a lot of other stuff.. as such, I would do a clean install of OP, install only the OP Enhancement.. which already contains the v2552 patch and OP + v3.4, and go from there.. if you follow the instructions in the thread I posted of the Enhancement pack.. it should be worth it for you...

Plus you would then be set up for any server in the way of Mission scripts.. all you would need is the NW config scripts and the shiplist /ftrlist and that is about it unless they are using custom models.. but anyhow, OP Enhancement should have you 90% ready for any server plus it contains Strats Mod Chooser which will allow you to preserve the game in different states so you can easily swap configurations from Original to OP + to the Server mod, to Chris Jones UAW mod and so forth...  without having to reinstall OP .. it is simple and easy now..

Hope that this helps...

Pesty. I hate to say it, but I can't hold back anymore. You just have a glorified installer of other people's stuff. While I do find it useful to get some people started, it's far from being the ultimate solution as everything can be downloaded separately and installed without much fuss.

It doesn't compare to the hundreds or thousands of hours some of the people who created individual components you use within your installer, since I could probably create an equal or better installer within a day or 2. Please don't recommend to established players to reinstall their entire game like that.

[Pestalence_XC]

Firesoul.. I never stated anything in the OP Enhancement Pack was min except the MCT files and maybe a revision to the installers on a couple of things..

I never stated it was the ultimate in things for OP out there...

I have stated that it does get people ready for the D2 and expands the single player experience and adds things to OP for GSA use..

I never stated it was the ultimate, I never stated it is the end all be all ...

but I will state that it has a majority of items most commonly used for OP to get people up to speed when reinstalling OP..

Firesoul.. if you notice, when I post on the package.. I always state things like Strat's Mod Chooser and so forth.. I also state OP + v3.4 which everyone under the sun knows is yours and on top of that it is cited in the DL under contense and in the readme file, so installer ownership and creation credits to each individual piece of OP Enhancement is given due credit...

Yes i do toot my own horn for taking all the items available for OP that are the most commonly used and putting them into an installer which will install them into OP in the correct manner and which will uninstall leaving OP in 97% pure condition....

Sorry, but some people don't take the time to read the one post on it and they may not understand what is in the package....

When a community member releases a new item for OP.. I usually wait several days to 2 or 3 weeks to get OP Enhancement updated to the new content.. that way the creator has their worship and glory ever before the OP Enhancement is updated....

If you notice, in my thread, there are no glory hounds casting worship on the package I put together... I have only had maybe 3 to 4 people state it was fantastic and Great... other than that, people hit the thread and decide to Dl or not... that is their choice.. many people do not understand some things that are available for OP and the OP Enhancement Pack is the easiest way for them to see what is really available and how dedicated the community is as a whole...

I'm not taking credit for the stuff in OP Enhancement.. I take credit for being the one to put OP Enhancement together as an installer...

the stuff in OP Enhancement belongs to a lot of people who are on these boards and each item is given proper credit...

Sorry I am ruffling your feathers over OP Enhancement.. and yes items are available for individual Download if someone so chooses.. I just made a suggestion since the person is now on DSL.. basically giving another option to the person...

The way i see it.. if someone comes out with a game enhancing feature.. I sit back for 2 to 3 weeks.. then I incorporate it into OP Enhancement and then release it...

at that time, many of the community will already have the item for themselves by individual download...

now what happens if they have to format or reinstall OP from scratch????

should they spend 4 or 5 days searching for each and every item through 10,000 postings in 6 different forums looking for each item in the package while going to 200 web sites trying go get the most basic of items..

or can they just DL and use OP Enhancement Pack and have their game in current condition for D2 with the ease of 1 file to download????

so if I toot my own horn on the package, the great.. you toot your own horn over OP + and your protective of OP + and I don't blame you.. I'm protective of SFC and OP Enhancement...

See, I see where we differ.. You put out OP + and let the players spread the word.. but something like that is revolutionary.. word spreads fast when a new version is available...

OP Enhancement does not enjoy that little wild fire word spreading.. i literally have to go out and advertise it and explain over and over again about all the other peoples creations that the pack includes and most times explain each game mode and the benifits of it because people never heard of Mod Chooser or Fests + or Centauri Vaughn or MagnumMan and so forth.. Not only do I spread the OP Enhancement Package... I also spread everyone elses creations.. which also increases their fame...

so I'm not trying to be a glory hog... I'm trying to help people save time getting their game up to par...

Is it the end all be all.. Hell no... but it covers 90 % of the basic necessities to get on a serious server...

I have over 4 gigs of material for OP on my system, not counting API's... now the Enhancement Pack includes only about 600 MB of material installed.. OP by itself with OP Enhancement installed is a little over 1.87 GB... that isn't even half of what's available for OP.. however I I keep stating, I include the majority of things needed to get OP up to par fo D2 play with some kickers to Single Player and GSA.. plus tools to where people can make their own mods.. as such those items are not mine either.. but I included them so that people can enjoy their game and be able tomake their own creations or packages for distribution .. to add to the community pool

Sorry if I upset people, but heck, I don't see any rooms in GS that state OP Enhancement 2.1.. however I do see almost every room state v2552 and OP + 3.4 ....

also look as view count on my thread.. 157 views.. and maybe 1/2 have actually DL'd it.. your OP + 3.4 file has been DL'd by itself close to what.. 2500 to 3000 times now...

so where is the comparison.. people still get the single files.. it is not hurting your Dl ratio.. your fame is increased with your package and more so with the OP Enhancement putting it out there as well..

sooo.. what is the problem with me tooting my horn every once in a while... heck I have been off line for 4 months.. I come back and release OP Enhancement v2.1... and over the course of 3 weeks that is has been available I have only had 157 views....

about 1/2 may have actually Dl'd it.. it is a huge file and many prefer to get components individually when compared to OP Enhancement...

I have only made a shameless plug for OP Enhancement in 2 threads outside my own OP Enhancement topic... but the majority of the time, I have been pushing Strat's Mod Chooser so people may have a way of saving HDD space by only keeping 1 copy of OP on their system....

also I have pushed your OP + in the past and made sure everyone reading any of my postings knew that OP + is your package...

sorry.. but every once in a while someone needs to feel that what they are doing is appreciated...

so far, in my I have returned thread when I cam back.. I got a whole whapping total of 7 replies.. man I feel loved..

now with OP Enhancement v2.1.. the majority of the postings in it is on how to operate Strat's Mod Chooser.. 1 fantastic from Age and in the General forum, only 1 reply to the posting there which was by Chris jones.. as such, only 1 other person posted saying great utility or something of that nature...and Dizzy above... no one else has bothered to say anything, so I get the impression that either no one cares about it or it is taken for granted, or they just don't understand what the package is...

I have it up as a Utility, not a mod.. it is a utility so that people who wants OP to be ready for most dyna servers can just Dl and install it and have almost everything they need to get onto any server...

I never have taken credit for anything in the OP Enhancement Pack except the reworked Conquest and Custom campaign MCT files... everything else is as provided by the creator of the material and is properly credited.. which is why the previous version of OP E. launched the readme file and the first thing after install instructions was the list of material with credits... this pack does not auto launch the readme file because of several people asking for it to be a click on option.. well next package, it is going back to auto open and credits are going to the top of the readme...

Sorry I ruffleed feathers by offering a utility to where they can get a bunch of commonly used material in just 1 DL instead of 25... sorry for trying to be helpful...

[Grim]

I think you do a great job for the community pest, i'm reinstalling the game myself to get back to playing, i do find it very helpful that all the stuff can be found in one download that is available.

Some people prefer single, multiple downloads some prefer downloading something in one go, its allways good to have the option to choose both.

[Pestalence_XC]

I think you do a great job for the community pest, i'm reinstalling the game myself to get back to playing, i do find it very helpful that all the stuff can be found in one download that is available.

Some people prefer single, multiple downloads some prefer downloading something in one go, its allways good to have the option to choose both.

Agreed...

[Dizzy]

and yes items are available for individual Download if someone so chooses.. I just made a suggestion since the person is now on DSL.. basically giving another option to the person...

now what happens if they have to format or reinstall OP from scratch? should they spend 4 or 5 days searching for each and every item through 10,000 postings in 6 different forums looking for each item in the package while going to 200 web sites trying go get the most basic of items..

Here's the wet noodle, FS. If I reformat, which I did, hunting down all that great OP stuff is a nightmare and I am darn glad someone put it all together for me. Pesty's pack also brings to D/Lers hard drives material I didnt even know existed (just ONE example is the surprise I had when I went to single player and looked at all the new missions, wow) and in doing so is sharing all the countless hours of work those people did so I can enjoy it. +karma to pesty.

I'd like to touch off on one thing I think Pesty could do differently and better. He mentioned having to advertise occasionally when the opportunity arises (he's actively scanning these posts trying to help peeps and support his sharing of material he compiled) because peeps dont know what his enhancement package is all about. I didnt know wtf it was either till pesty spent 4 or 5 paragraphs explaining it EDIT: And that's part of his problem... I'm territorial when it comes to my OP files... I dont want peeps messign with them, which is why I originally passed over this gem so many times...

Here's what I suggest u do, Pesty... You need to change the name to something that peeps will understand right off what it is you have for them. For example: Pesty's comprehensive OP material compilation installer featuring gazillions of OP material available for you in one easy D/L... Or SOMETHING like that... OP Enhancement package is catchy, but like you said, Pesty, who has caught on? Change the name, bro and add it in your sig or something.

FS add it in your sig too and stop bitching. "FS's OP+3.4... also available in Pesty's ',,,' installer" Show the love bro! I know you can.

[FireSoul]

Good idea, thanks Dizzy.

[Age]

There is one thing I will say and that is if I had to look for all the files in this pack I probably wouldn't .I would get OP+ 3.4 and a few others like shipedit and the mod chooser.I wouldn't bother going around to get all the mission files and it does make the single player version better with all scripts from EAW transfered to OP.I wouldn't bother doing that either.There is a good thing  about this and that it gets smaller all the time and is fairly easy to install.I go around to other forums and recomending it to others as well.

[FPF-Bach]

If you think that pack is good.. the OP Enhancement Package contains OP + v3.4 and a lot of other stuff.. as such, I would do a clean install of OP, install only the OP Enhancement.. which already contains the v2552 patch and OP + v3.4, and go from there.. if you follow the instructions in the thread I posted of the Enhancement pack.. it should be worth it for you...

Plus you would then be set up for any server in the way of Mission scripts.. all you would need is the NW config scripts and the shiplist /ftrlist and that is about it unless they are using custom models.. but anyhow, OP Enhancement should have you 90% ready for any server plus it contains Strats Mod Chooser which will allow you to preserve the game in different states so you can easily swap configurations from Original to OP + to the Server mod, to Chris Jones UAW mod and so forth...  without having to reinstall OP .. it is simple and easy now..

Hope that this helps...

Pesty. I hate to say it, but I can't hold back anymore. You just have a glorified installer of other people's stuff. While I do find it useful to get some people started, it's far from being the ultimate solution as everything can be downloaded separately and installed without much fuss.

It doesn't compare to the hundreds or thousands of hours some of the people who created individual components you use within your installer, since I could probably create an equal or better installer within a day or 2. Please don't recommend to established players to reinstall their entire game like that.

Bad form dude.