Actually, Tomolock, bozobits still gets a lot of use besides the officer's clubs. There are a number of fleet forums there (including my own), several development forums, as well as the different race forums. Of course Bozobits doesn't get the traffic that Dnet does, just as it never had the traffic that the old Taldren boards did. Dnet is our main hangout, just as Taldren was, and Bozobits is our campaign hangout, you could say, as well as the home forums of several fleets. I'm not sure of the "why" of your bias against Bozobits ("race hugger" site???), but in my estimation it has been an invaluable tool over the years, and to just dismiss it out of hand I think is a bit short sighted. As to people who "just want to Dyna", I think that if they are not involved in their particular race, getting to know their teammates, etc, that they are missing out on a huge part of why this game is still so much fun, i.e. the Community. Please don't think that I am coming down on you, I'm just disagreeing with your assesment.