Topic: Oh Hell!!!!! (New Server Announcement)

[FPF-DieHard]

2 More days before the new job starts (have to remember to time my lapses in employment to good servers, GW4 was my best vacation in years) so I have a little more time to come up with dumb ideas . . .

War Cruiser Hell will start this weekend and run for about 2 weeks.   It will be a fun server for us to kill each other in a light-hearted atmosphere and test some Mission "blends" and D2 settings.  I encourage people to swap races and even switch sides for maximum mayhem.   I know we'll have some smacktard doing a homeworld run on a fun server but I know the other 99% of you will keep it good natured and fun.

Pretty much, this is the mission pack that we want to use for Slave Girls of Orion 4.  Need to check for bugs, the patrol bug, see which ones draft better than others, and all that jazz.

Anyway, one of the big "ifs" for SGO4 servers is do we use X-tech or not.  I've consulted the Firesoul and the Sacred ADB scrolls and have made some tweaks to the X1 ships from OP+ so that they will play nicer with the General War era ships and with each other across the races.  The Taldren X-ships have been banished to the forbiden zone and will not be seen no matter what. 

These X1 tweaks look good on paper, but deperately need to be tested and NOT on a serious server.  They need to be tested against each other and against their non-X peers.   CX is almost a DN, CLX is almost a BCH, etc . . ..

I would like to present . ..

X-Ship Hell!!!!! 

Server will start a day or 2 after WCH is over and will use the same mission pack.  Only change will be a new shiplist.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

ACK!!!!

[Julin Eurthyr]

Why don't you combine the X-ship- and CW- hell shiplists, making the X1 refit date deploy exactly 2 weeks after the server starts?

That way you won't need any time off

[Hexx]

<grumbles> Chuutyou  betrayed me Kzin bastard! 

[FPF-DieHard]

Why don't you combine the X-ship- and CW- hell shiplists, making the X1 refit date deploy exactly 2 weeks after the server starts?

That way you won't need any time off

AI draw could get flaky, also gives more time to tweak but your idea has merit.  A shiplist is a NOTHING download to compared to a mission pack.

[Dizzy]

What Julin said. Besides, we do need to know how they play with the other ships.

[FPF-DieHard]

What Julin said. Besides, we do need to know how they play with the other ships.

There will be other ships in X-Ship Hell.   it will be 2 sperate servers.  This is not open to debate.  Have a nice day   

Get on Yahoo, I gotta bug you about the FYA for K-refits and Gorn F refits.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

<grumbles> Chuutyou  betrayed me Kzin bastard! 

Actually I didn't, but Die Hard might have put x-tech in just to piss me off same as you!

Guess he and Dizzy can't cut it without a little x tech  help either.......

[Capt Jeff]

Please tell me you've put some PhG's  or Ph3's back on the X1 ships....

The way AI handles drones is dumb enough.

The way they handle drones with no PD is idiotic. 

[FPF-DieHard]

Please tell me you've put some PhG's  or Ph3's back on the X1 ships....

No I didn't and I will not.   I could care less how thw AI behaves with these, how they are balanced in PvP is the only thing that matters.

[Corbomite]

X1 tech is retarded. It's a huge step backward just to get some fancy phasers, except for the plasma races who get R torps galore (ugh!). X2 tech is OTT (Taldren's anyway). I could design great X ships using what we have available now and still keep the tech progression smoother and less non-sensical than what we have.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

If you start a server in early era, late era ships are basically X-ships 

Why reinvent the wheel? Just end servers in late era.

[Capt Jeff]

Please tell me you've put some PhG's  or Ph3's back on the X1 ships....

No I didn't and I will not.   I could care less how thw AI behaves with these, how they are balanced in PvP is the only thing that matters.

Then why even include them in a D2 shiplist?   I understand they work OK with humans at the helm, but I don't care much for having another AI "exploit" available to me.   Knowing I can kill a CCX with a drone frigate at range 50, just because it has no point defense is not fun.

[Evil Kraven]

ok just putting in my two cents. most first generation x ships can be beaten by late era ships.
I give you the c7 vs the d5x. same comparable bpv numbers. and the c7 still out classes it.

we've tested this debate already.

the CLX while being one tough cookie, it does not take internals well at all. once you start to pepper a downed shield watch its engine power and systems go down quickly.

before you go tweaking test out comparable match ups with late era ships on game spy. then tweak what you find unbalenced. I think you might have to tweak the lower end ships (frigs and some lght cruisers) but the HC class I think you can pretty much leave alone.

Just my humble opinion.

"The Evil One"
KHH Evil Kraven

[FPF-DieHard]

Not asking for people's input (yet) but I will tell you guys one thing . . .


There are no X-phasers

Phaser 1s have replaced them in this list.  ADB removed overloading phasers a long time ago, I'm trying the same thing.

[RazalYllib]

mmm removing xphasers...interesting.

I thought of this as well many moons ago.  However, I am of the opinion one should not throw out the baby with the bath water.

I feel that 2nd Gen X should have at least "1" bank of X's if they are stripped or Taldren A/B type for Flavor.  That is how I would do it.   I like the feel of SFB x weapon overload and all even though it is OTT.  Just give it a thought..

[FPF-DieHard]

I feel that 2nd Gen X should have at least "1" bank of X's if they are stripped or Taldren A/B type for Flavor.  That is how I would do it.   I like the feel of SFB x weapon overload and all even though it is OTT.  Just give it a thought..

I could care less about the Second Generation X ships, they are all garbage.   The OP+ Ships simply play nicer with GW era ships with Phaser 1s.