Topic: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?  (Read 19103 times)

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Offline FPF-DieHard

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2004, 03:57:55 pm »
DH you seriously must be on some really whacky meds.

No disputing that . . .

Coming from a guy who's standard ship is a DNH..


Comes out in 2278, by then you have your P refits :P

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evening to distract you, cause obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2004, 04:01:38 pm »
DH you seriously must be on some really whacky meds.

No disputing that . . .

Coming from a guy who's standard ship is a DNH..





Comes out in 2278, by then you have your P refits :P


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2004, 04:06:16 pm »
Best Fed, eh? Have the pilot you believe is best challenge TobinDax. My money is on Dax every time.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2004, 04:09:23 pm »
Best Fed, eh? Have the pilot you believe is best challenge TobinDax. My money is on Dax every time.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2004, 04:21:46 pm »
If I had to guess my answer would be, based on countless written commentaries here, "probably so."  ;-)

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2004, 04:27:43 pm »
Do you really think if the Lyran ships are that great we would be forced to use
pilots like 'Pig?



Hmm, think you mis-phrased that... if we had great ships we wouldn't need pilots like 'Pig.

Yer still dumb as a sack of hammers, needing me to correct your obvious grammeritacal errors.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2004, 05:08:26 pm »
Ok then...  I'll twist an old saying around to say in a short way what I could write for pages about.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2004, 05:16:02 pm »





This does mean I still get to whine from time to time, right...?  Right...? 
 :P


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2004, 10:08:52 pm »
Drone/fighter defences:

Everyone has phasers, tractors and t-bombs, so no need to list them.

Federation: Dual purpose G racks and fighters - energy cost=0
Gorn: a small number of D rack equipped ships - energy cost=0; late on, PFs - energy cost=0
Hydrans: fighters - energy cost=0
ISC: a small number of D rack equipped ships, and fighters - energy cost=0
Klingons: AMD and fighters - energy cost=0
Kzinti: AMD and fighters - energy cost=0
Lyrans: ESG - energy cost=5, late on, PFs - energy cost=0
Romulans - as Gorn - energy cost=0

Other than PFs, every weapon on a Lyran ship requires energy to use. The Hydrans are similar except for the fact that they have attrition units from the start, not to mention their hellbore ships have the most power.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2004, 11:33:20 pm »
Drone/fighter defences:
Hydrans: fighters - energy cost=0

Fighters are drone defense? Oh my, that's a good one.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2004, 02:57:32 am »
When it comes to power management, Lyran ships are very tricky, if not perhaps the most difficult of all the races. Turning off disruptors is considered 'normal' just so you can get ESGs to charge. Very few Lyran pilots actually use their disruptors, the ships just dont have the power. Remember, a Lyran must fly fast in order to use its primary heavy weapon to have any chance of hitting an opponent with them. The only saving grace that helps a Lyran ship, fortunately, is the ESG capacitor.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2004, 03:32:10 am »
When it comes to power management, Lyran ships are very tricky, if not perhaps the most difficult of all the races. Turning off disruptors is considered 'normal' just so you can get ESGs to charge. Very few Lyran pilots actually use their disruptors, the ships just dont have the power. Remember, a Lyran must fly fast in order to use its primary heavy weapon to have any chance of hitting an opponent with them. The only saving grace that helps a Lyran ship, fortunately, is the ESG capacitor.


Aaaaahhhh!! I see the problem now! Do all of you think that the ESG is the Lyran "primary heavy weapon"? Specialized or unique does not mean primary. I think I can count on one hand the times I have been hit by an ESG w/o first having been damaged and slowed down enoughby Disruptors and Phasers for the ESG to connect and finish the job and every one of them has been in team play where you can get distracted or maneuvered.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2004, 05:39:25 am »
Definately agree with Corbo here.

ESGs are nice but its the dizzies and phasers that usually do it for the Lyrans.  The fear of the ESG is often a better weapon than the weapon itself IMHO, some players even use the ESG defensively  :o.

Against slow drones and first generation ftr races they can be used as a solely offensive weapon, but later on its dual use comes more into play.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2004, 05:44:14 am »
Drone/fighter defences:
Hydrans: fighters - energy cost=0

Fighters are drone defense? Oh my, that's a good one.

 :rofl:

If you didn't know that then I suggest you go back to school and learn to use fighters properly.
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2004, 07:44:07 am »
Mog,

t00l is talking about the stupidity of the fighter AI, how they seem to rather fire range 15 phg shots at an enemy than hold them from drone defense.

Rare is it that they actually help you in drone defense unless you are castling with them set on 'defend me'
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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2004, 07:51:37 am »
Drone/fighter defences:
Hydrans: fighters - energy cost=0

Fighters are drone defense? Oh my, that's a good one.

 :rofl:

If you didn't know that then I suggest you go back to school and learn to use fighters properly.

You're joking!

Woe to the Hydran who relies on his fighters for drone defense.

Can they help? In the right circumstances, yes, but letting your fighters get picked off by drones is usually a formula to defeat.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2004, 08:47:10 am »
The case of the Hydran fighters as mentioned by Bearslayer and 762 in terms of point defense is true, sometimes they work properly a lot of the time they dont due to the crappy ai.

Just relying on your fighters for point defense is suicide.


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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2004, 09:11:59 am »
I think I can count on one hand the times I have been hit by an ESG w/o first having been damaged and slowed down enoughby Disruptors and Phasers for the ESG to connect and finish the job...

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and every one of them has been in team play where you can get distracted or maneuvered.

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #78 on: December 08, 2004, 10:13:42 am »
And after I shilled for your server for free. Sheesh!

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Re: Running up the post count- 2 Best (current ) Fed pilots?
« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2004, 10:36:54 am »
Ok, +1 karma for that. ;) And +1 karma for that slave girl in your pic which I am telling everyone I am pimlping her to you at inflated prices.

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