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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2004, 06:24:11 pm »
Yes, under the current rules you cannot disengage if you are caught in a PvP while deepstriking or "behind enemy lines.  Of course your ship should be forfeit for breaking that rule.  What's at issue here is the proposal that when going into mission when the adjacent hex is friendly and it changes to neutral or enemy while you are in mission and you disengage, your ship is forfeit.  A player shouldn't be penalized for entering a hot zone; they should be given the chance to escape.

What he said too.
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2004, 07:30:28 pm »
Dizzy, this sounds really cool! Can we see the shiplist? I want to fly a CWLP again!

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2004, 07:36:20 pm »
Green is the only one with a convincing argument. He is right in that I do not want to do anything that gives pause for someone entering into a PvP hot zone. I'd argue till Hell froze over to get my way if I dont see merit in anothers counter argument, but I happen to agree with what Green says in full.

So this will be the new Deepstrike rule for SG4:

Deepstrikes:

    If you draft or are drafted into a PvP in a hex that has no friendly or neutral hexes adjacent to it at the time of the draft, then you may not disengage and must fight to the death.

I think this is the rule everonye wants. Am I right Marines!

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2004, 07:45:16 pm »
Green is the only one with a convincing argument. He is right in that I do not want to do anything that gives pause for someone entering into a PvP hot zone. I'd argue till Hell froze over to get my way if I dont see merit in anothers counter argument, but I happen to agree with what Green says in full.

So this will be the new Deepstrike rule for SG4:

Deepstrikes:

    If you draft or are drafted into a PvP in a hex that has no friendly or neutral hexes adjacent to it at the time of the draft, then you may not disengage and must fight to the death.

I think this is the rule everonye wants. Am I right Marines!

I thought that was the rule we already had. Thanks for the clarification though.   :P

Now that Dizzy understands the Deepstrike rule, what else we have?
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2004, 07:52:41 pm »
No, the clarification had serious ramifications. Dont make fun of it! If you have it so the the determination of the friendly neutral hexes is made after the draft rather than before the draft, then it changes the entire dynamics of strategic play when entering into a weakened hotspot zone. There was talk of this over Voicecomms last server, but the issue never arose. Had it, and if it involved a significant VC ship, there would be a flame war miles long. Thank me in advance, Kroma. I know you want to. :P

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2004, 08:20:18 pm »
Blah blah blah deepstrike garbage

Lets get to the cool stuff

Shiplists

Is SGIV going to be using those completely conjectural Fed PF's to do battle with the highly motivated
(if underequipped) PF's of the magestic Lyran Navy?
Is the BCHT going to be available?
Are Lyrans getting cool Klingon fighters?
Is the Lyran CV thingy (whatever was equivalant to the BCHT) available?

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2004, 08:43:25 pm »

Is SGIV going to be using those completely conjectural Fed PF's to do battle with the highly motivated
(if underequipped) PF's of the magestic Lyran Navy?
Is the BCHT going to be available?
Are Lyrans getting cool Klingon fighters?
Is the Lyran CV thingy (whatever was equivalant to the BCHT) available?

Bored Lyrans want to know!


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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2004, 09:55:49 pm »
Bah Stingers.
I'm planning on staying FAR away from the Hydran front this time.

Was thre ever a Lyran CVA or SCS built btw?
Is it appearing in the game (I'm somewhat enamoured of fighters atm, and disillusioned with Lyran PF's)
What's it based on (ie how many guns does it have?)
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2004, 09:58:37 pm »

Was thre ever a Lyran CVA or SCS built btw?
Is it appearing in the game (I'm somewhat enamoured of fighters atm, and disillusioned with Lyran PF's)
What's it based on (ie how many guns does it have?)

The Lyran CVA will be in the shiplist.   Dizzy is handling what is available and all that stuff but I believe it can be built.

Lyrans will have the cool fighters that the Klinks got in GW4.
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2004, 06:08:16 am »
Whens SG4 starting I have 5 interested from the 9th with interest growing

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2004, 07:14:39 am »
There is a server called 'War Cruiser Hell', which will run 2 weeks. SG4's test server goes up the day after that's over. So pretty soon. ;)

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2004, 10:02:19 am »
Guys, the Deepstrike rule has been clarified and changed. Please see the 2nd post and if possible help me clean up this thread with all that was said about it. Unless of course you are still unhappy with it. Further comments/concerns on other topics are appreciated.

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2004, 10:10:32 am »
So we are looking at fri 17th Dec or Sat 18th Dec then?

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2004, 10:19:25 am »
I'll let you know soon.

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2004, 10:50:46 am »
No, the clarification had serious ramifications. Dont make fun of it! If you have it so the the determination of the friendly neutral hexes is made after the draft rather than before the draft, then it changes the entire dynamics of strategic play when entering into a weakened hotspot zone. There was talk of this over Voicecomms last server, but the issue never arose. Had it, and if it involved a significant VC ship, there would be a flame war miles long. Thank me in advance, Kroma. I know you want to. :P

Well that was how it had always been interpreted on this side of the divide. If you where confused then instead of just blabbing about it on VT you should have asked an admin for clarification or asked Krueg to ask for you, instead of waiting for a dispute to arrise.

But the clarification is welcome, now that we have dispossed of your silly idea about automatic SDs.
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2004, 10:53:42 am »
Yes, Kroma. Whatever you say. ;)

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2004, 11:07:37 am »
"somewhere in mid era"?

Any chance of where this will actually fall?  Things can get pretty cheesed out in late, I'd like to think there will be something outside of spd 31 overrun/tractoring going on, especially given the ISC are involved.
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2004, 11:25:03 am »
Lyrans with Drones?   U should experiment with giving the Lyrans  Type 1 Dizzies. Maybe 1 dizzy mount with 2 shots. and some phaser 2's. Would be interesting. hehe

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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2004, 02:07:46 pm »
Lyrans with Drones?   U should experiment with giving the Lyrans  Type 1 Dizzies. Maybe 1 dizzy mount with 2 shots. and some phaser 2's. Would be interesting. hehe

Nope, but Lyrans will have Klingons fighters whcih do have drones.

The Klinks and the Lyrans will likely be COMBINED to free up a race slot. 
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Re: ***Announcing Slave Girls IV: Revenge of the Orion Slave Girls!***
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2004, 02:08:47 pm »
Things can get pretty cheesed out in late, I'd like to think there will be something outside of spd 31 overrun/tractoring going on, especially given the ISC are involved.

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