Topic: Donation of a Challenge League

[Slider]

I understand the way some of you feel and I quite frankly feel the same about those few people also, but i was approached by people that play the PBA. I only offer the means to a challenge league thats it. As far as Jackle and legendary well they will never change and always will be argumentative and rude. I can care less if yall except the offer or not. No sweat off my balls. But the offer stands if you change your minds.

I don't have time for the little bickering that you guys are doing here. So those who approached me on this, I posted like I said I would the balls in your court.

Feelings mutual Morph....now thats a doorknob not a butt-plug so dont let it get stuck in your arse on the way out of here.

[Mutilator]

One hope I had coming to the Dynaverse forums as we left the GZ site and forums behind was that we could have left the pettiness and crap there as well. It took only a few days to turn the new OP forums into a garbage scow.

I do not know the history of KHH and GZ vs. Morph nor could I care. Morph only made an offer and the response from some of our members quite honestly is disappointing. The spirit of this game is one of hope; one where we can work together through our differences to build a better gaming experience.

The move here was two fold from my impression one: Jakle wanted to step back from the burden of authority; two perhaps attract some new players in a joint effort with the dynaverse community. While the execution of the game is warfare it should be played out in the spirit of sportsmanship. This pettiness and grudge holding has to be suspended. People coming here to check out the new ?OP? forums only need to read a couple of threads now and say ?What a bunch of petty losers, why would I want to be part of something like that??

Legendary/Slider I think you?re a good person. You always say you stand up to bullies and fight to defend people that have been wronged. I honestly think you are edging towards the very thing you say you defend against. Phaser and ISC are making their case for their opinion on PPD?s as it is their race of choice the have a huge stake in the decision and I for one think they should be verbal on what they think will met their needs. Making reference to PPD?s and the size of their genitals seem rather childish. Trashing Morph for what appears to be a sincere offer regardless of what some perceived notions of his motives may be. I for one took it as a nice gesture or olive branch for those that have had issues with him in the past. Perhaps it needs to spelt out this is not GZ anymore and I would think we could all try a little harder to see past our own egos. I think Morph or anyone interested in the set up of this endeavor would be welcomed. I guess I was wrong on that notion.

I know people have differences, their own ideals and perceptions on things. I only ask that we as a community try and clean up our act and think twice before puffing out our chests with insults towards other players. There is no need of it. If you have an issue with someone PM them or keep it to yourself. Let?s keep the forums clean and trash free.

[KHH Jakle]

Mut - you make excellent points and you are a better person.

That doesn't mean I take back what I said - hell I don't even regret it.  But you are nonetheless correct.

Let the the old rancor die here, in this post.

[Slider]

I could have been nice, dilomatic, but i was brief and too the point.

Certain people at WGL went out of their way to bad mouth GZ. GZ a league that no one ever had to pay a dime. GZ that went out of their way to keep its players happy. And what did they do, they stood like sheep beliving the lies and badmouthing a good bunch of guys near daily on GSA. So GZ leaves goes to OP, the rest is history.

As far as Phaser is concerned you want to fly and test thigs out, saying that people dont have "balls" is not the way to do it. To me thats calling people out to a fight, people that have opened these forums to you.


p.s corbomite this comment you made... (If anyone thinks I am talking out my ass just ask anyone who knows me how well I fly ISC. Those ships make it really easy to look good.)  i think ur talking out of your ass, is there any chance you can meet us for some 3v3's so you can show us just how good those ships make ya look..ISC vs ISC  sound good to you??

Gee, looks like bully-boy talk to me, maybe im wrong...

Of course no one sticks a painstick in these turds...noooooooo, just let them spew their ego driven drival all over the forums.

I fire back, and im the bad guy.

So you say im becoming a bully eh? Your actually defending 2 clowns. Ok You deal with him. Good luck, Im sick of it. Dont know why I came here to begin with.

*of course im the moron, how silly of me*

*walks away*

[Kroma BaSyl]

One hope I had coming to the Dynaverse forums as we left the GZ site and forums behind was that we could have left the pettiness and crap there as well. It took only a few days to turn the new OP forums into a garbage scow.

LOL...n00b!!!! We have a long tradition of flaming each other around here. Why I once went a whole week appending "Hey Dizzy did I remember to tell you to go F yourself" to every post. And he's a friend.

[Kroma BaSyl]

For the record, there is a bit of bad blood between many around here and Morph, maybe he was being sincere this time, but his promises usually have strings attached. Would have been better to just politely turn down his offer though.

[Mutilator]

GZ is dead and we have moved on. I will always have fond memories of GZ and the great work that Nihm, Jakle,  you and the other admins did for all of us the players. To quote Eleanor Holmes Norton "The only way to make sure people you agree with can speak is to support the rights of people you don't agree with." I hardly ever agree with Phaser and ISC on anything rule related. I know they can be caustic at times on the forums, however I have spent time getting to know them on GSA and you maybe surprised that Phaser and ISC are huge supporters of this new league and of GZ in it's time. I  do not think the PPD issue is any different for them as low end BPV was for FSD at the time of those debates. ISC was one of the first to show up here and on the GSA arena to help with Jakles tests there. Corbomite made a statement and I think Phasers challenge was meant in the spirit of sportsmanship, I read it as a friendly challenge. Like in my post above we need to let go of all these old grudges and move forward together. Slider you have good ideas that you bring to the table I respect your opinion on many issues. My post above was more of a request to keep these forums productive with collaborations of ideas versus the bog down of flame wars. I meant you no dishonour just giving my impression on how I read the forums so far. Peace.


Kroma perhaps I am a little new or naive to forum life, however I know a lot of people responded better to a pat on the back than a slap in the face.
  

[Kroma BaSyl]

Kroma perhaps I am a little new or naive to forum life, however I know a lot of people responded better to a pat on the back than a slap in the face.
 

I was just joking with you. However, I respond best to a slap on the rear.

[Green]

I was just joking with you. However, I respond best to a slap on the rear.

Bend over big-boy ... here comes your slap.



Anyway, Kroma is right, bad blood existed in pockets of these fora since they started.  No biggie.

So guys ... we ready to give Kel a little time to sort things out and make a go of it?  I am.

[Morph]

Just to clear up on some confussion. I have no intentions of doing anything but to offer a league as I stated in previous posts. There are no hidden agenda, conspiracy or catches to my offer. I rent my Leagues out normally for $85/month, the people who approached me have played both GZ and WGL when we where  leagues and they have been a customer of mine for over a year with my webHosting company. I have always had the spirit of the Gamers in my heart since the SFC1 days and SL, when the GZ people where Admins for me with the TIGC.

Now that the Dynaverse.net forum seems to be turning into the GZ forums, this Will be my last post in this forum. The offer I made, I made because of a handful of people asked me if I would thats it! Not to bicker with the GZ people on the Dynaverse.net Forums. Mutilator you may be new to the forums and I appreciate your open mind, but the people that ran GZ will never change in there attitudes toward anybody that was either in competion with them or has been a pain in there ass over the years. Whoo, K9, KHH-Devil40 and allot more that I have forgoten used to be Admins for me back in the TIGC days not WGL.

In closing I appreciate all who looked at the offer with open minds and without holding grudges for years. Here is a link to the site I want to donate http://wgleague.com/wgleague/SFC/ it has a full adminstrations section that is vary advanced to say the least and does not take all the time that some people think to administrate. Don't let other people fool you in to thinking it is a hard and time consuming job to admin a league because its NOT. There are lots of good players and honest people here on the Dynaverse.net that would enjoy the PBA with this type of league set up. Just don't let the potty mouth people decide your course of action they are just closed minded and jealous that they can't offer anything else but a forum to run the PBA.

[KBF-Butcher]

Who the hell u think u r Legendary jump in the forums and telling us we shouldnt challenge people or fleets to a fight?
The last thing i want to do here is being challenge to arguements with people in a language that is not my first but my second , so yeah ill challenge to a fight who ever i want to ,cause this is why im here afterall to play some good battles.
I dont think phaser or i insulted anyone here just because we had a different opinion in some issues and we challenged them to a fight!
And u say that because corbomite and FPF r hosting these forums for us ,we dont have the right to argue with them defend our arguements and challenge them to a fight if we want to???
Thats maybe your way to lick owners boots and im sure u doing fine in this part(as i guess u were doing in GZ as well) but im sorry this is not my way.

I agree with every word Mut wrote in this thread and i couldnt express it cause of my english.
I already made a post to Jakle that this isnot the right time and place to bring up our personal issues instead of just work here for this league in a friendly way;This is gonna be a forum based league and if we begin this sh*t from now then we wont manage to finish another PBR divisional league cycle ,cause 1 fleet will withdraw after the other.

As for your personal problem with ISC and phaser , Jakle and Legendary its obvious u guys just cant  handle the fact that phaser and his team (almost a 1 year fleet) won the first 2 divisional league gz cycles so u trying throw him sh*t to feel better.
But i ll can assure u that phaser has earned the respect of the majority of gsa community all these years ,something i have many doubts that u did.

Kroma If these forums r only for flaming each other here and telling people to go eat sh*t and die then im sure i dont want to be a part on this.This is turning to a crap thing.
I hope u  all have fun.

Respects

[KHH Jakle]

damn...pegged me didn't he

[Corbomite]

And u say that because corbomite and FPF r hosting these forums for us ,we dont have the right to argue with them defend our arguements and challenge them to a fight if we want to???

I can assure you with most certainty that neither the FPF nor myself have anything at all to do with the ownership or administration of these forums. That would be Admiral Frey of XC you want to talk to for that.


And Kroma is just jesting. Get used to it.

[KBF-Butcher]

First of all i didnt bring anyone here!
KEG and myself we had the worst flaming arguements with morph in gsa last winter and i personally dont like him but not in a way to want him dead .The guy in a polite way ignoring your childish insults just offered free to host the PBA .
However ,from the first sight of morphs thread i knew what would be follow so in no way I would ever think to bring him here.

As for the ppd issue i m sure we have prooved we didnt have any problem in cycle 3 .

Im sorry u felt like i called U boot licker but before u tell me i master the english language u better master your english reading cause i was very accurate that the boot licker was pointed at Legendary and i explained why ,as well.

I m not gonna respond to any of your insults .U prooved anyone who u really r and what kind of person u represent u and Legendary in the community.

Honesty no hard feelings for your insults. U just confirmed my claims that u brough your personal issues with ISC here one more time.

I can assure you with most certainty that neither the FPF nor myself have anything at all to do with the ownership or administration of these forums. That would be Admiral Frey of XC you want to talk to for that.

Yo Corbomite u better point that to Legendary first and not me.He accused us for challenging the guys that made space to host the league,and i dont think we ever challenged Frey.

Respects

[KBF-Butcher]

 
Well Jakle i just noticed u modifyed your post with all the insults to me and ISC including unwashed pig , asswholes and that crap.
Looks like u have a double personality or something! 

[KHH Jakle]

yo Hella boy - why don't you scroll back through all these posts.  Your going to find that between you and Phaser, a steadily increasing degree of beligerency.  Thing is, I am not going to ignore 90% of it like I did before.

You want to blame the opening volley on me for suggesting Phaser's complaining about 'boring plasma ballet' or whatever it was just his way of saying that they weren't killing their opponents fast enough, that's cool.

Hell, you can even blame me for suggesting that Legendary/Slider come over and pay a visit.

But the bottom line is, you guys have conisitently been antagonistic jerks for the last 10 months.  I was giving Phaser the benefit of the doubt most of that time, giving him credit for recommending OP and OP+ from the beginning and being overall supportive of GZ. 

But when Cycle 3 began and he wanted to question my integrity - well as far I am concerned the bunch of you all can go rot. 

[KBF-Butcher]

Thing is, I am not going to ignore 90% of it like I did before.
Hell, you can even blame me for suggesting that Legendary/Slider come over and pay a visit.
I was giving Phaser the benefit of the doubt most of that time, giving him credit for recommending OP and OP+ from the beginning and being overall supportive of GZ.
But when Cycle 3 began and he wanted to question my integrity - well as far I am concerned the bunch of you all can go rot.

There is no any need to comment anything from u anymore all u keep doing is verify my previous posts.
However now i see it came back the dictatorial personality of yours that u tryed to cover up before a couple of days when it has been revealed.It seems it came up naturally again and i lmao with u .
How long enough do u think the community will  put up with those sh*t anymore?
And btw i dont see u run anything here or anyone made u a lead admin to keep up the same sh*t ,all that u offer herefrom the first time is bring up your personal ego problems with ISC or Morph whining and insulting ... so U can go rot.

[Payne]

Holy ego's

I have a plan, why don't we all just "Shut Up!!" before we ruin another cycle......or even worse........ ruin any possible future of this game for everyone.

Now U can ALL rot


With that out of the way, I was going to mention to everyone an idea.  I was thinking on getting something like pbrleague.com and setting up a site.  Is this something that can help, or is it a waist of money. 

I'm directing this at everyone so they can voice an opinion.  Not an opinon on who they want to fight this week...........an opinion on how we can SAVE this GAME.  In a way I'm almost at the point of throwing in the towel and saying who cares, obviously they can't get along.

[Morph]

Payne if you need to puchase a domain I sell them for $9.95 per year. Web Hosting Also, just let me know if I can help in any way.

[Mutilator]

Holy ego's
I have a plan, why don't we all just "Shut Up!!" before we ruin another cycle......or even worse........ ruin any possible future of this game for everyone.

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